311 problem ?

[mcarthur70]

ok i can read the card in nedit2 gives atr and provider . but when i try to unlock it useing nagramaster or new win exlorer script i get no atr . ive tried everything but no go anyonr know of this problem thanks for any help

[Crazy1_79]

you can read or reset in n2edit?

[mopar611]

LOL

I know the answer....

[Crazy1_79]

LOL@mopar

[mopar611]

I was laughing at you Crazy...

[mopar611]

ok i can read the card in nedit2 gives atr and provider . but when i try to unlock it useing nagramaster or new win exlorer script i get no atr . ive tried everything but no go anyonr know of this problem thanks for any help


You either missed a trace cut or didnt cut it all the way...

Or

Do the above...

Nagra edit will read the s/c just as is.. The only reason you even cut traces is to glitch as they have the chip loaded down to prevent glitching into the chip..

Thats why when you repair the cut traces, you can read and unlock and lock the chip without taking it all apart every time you need to program the chip..

Mopar

[mopar611]

BTW, I have read that using the passive card while glitching these onboard cams will mess witht he delay in the script.. Dont know really.. Just what I read..

I glitch directly from my glitcher to the s/c.. You should keep your wires short as possible.. That passive card wires are kind of long...

Anyways, something to think about, search, read, whatever...

Mopar

[mcarthur70]

i can reset in nedit 2 . but cant glitch

[mopar611]

Did you do the 4 cut method or 3 and lift the resister??

[mopar611]

I prefer the 4 myself.. I cant soldier those little resistors back on..

[mcarthur70]

i did the 4 im checking traces now

[mopar611]

i can reset in nedit 2 . but cant glitch


Going to bed...

Double check your cuts.. You s/c is still loaded down.

Or your not on the right pads.. 3 should be on the bottom pads and the top on the right.. You know what I am talking about right??

Its one of those two as you can read it..

Mopar

[mopar611]

i did the 4 im checking traces now


Ya, throw your meter on there..

[mcarthur70]

trace r283 and c373 does all 3 cut or just 2

[mopar611]

That trace cut on your right hand side.. (Dont know the number off the top of my head is really close to the other one).. Probably that one.. I was to nervous to cut all the way as to not cut the one next to it...

[mopar611]

trace r283 and c373 does all 3 cut or just 2


You cut the left hand side connecting between 283 and 373.. The side closest to the chip if you are facing it.. Right in the middle between them.. This is your first cut. Only cut one line..

2nd cut is the left hand side of 371, under the U in U25..

3rd cut is right hand side of 371..

4th cut is on the left hand side between 274 and 279.. The one farthest from the chip..

Then apply your glitcher to the same spot as your iso.. It should glitch..

Mopar

[mopar611]

trace r283 and c373 does all 3 cut or just 2


You only cut one line.. I hope you didnt cut all them..

[mcarthur70]

yea the trace pic i have shows cut both lines on all traces

[mcarthur70]

thanks for help . im going to bed to many beers lol will try tomarrow .. thanks again

[mcarthur70]

well the pic i have also shows a trace between 372 and 274 this pic is not real clear were he drawed right were the traces are so i cant tell if its one line or both so im going to get a magnifing glass to see if i cut threw the traces . and re try let you know later . thanks

[mcarthur70]

well i got a magnifing glass checked traces all threw retried still no atr . checked with iso can check atr still . i think i cut threw to many traces .cut both at 283 373 , both at 274 289 and both at 371 . guess im screwed i think i can repair the traces but i need to glitch . does any one have a pic on were the wires go if i remove the chip and glicth it need a diagram of that thanks

[mopar611]

well i got a magnifing glass checked traces all threw retried still no atr . checked with iso can check atr still . i think i cut threw to many traces .cut both at 283 373 , both at 274 289 and both at 371 . guess im screwed i think i can repair the traces but i need to glitch . does any one have a pic on were the wires go if i remove the chip and glicth it need a diagram of that thanks

Oh shit...

You fucked up...

It will still open.. But you will get internal error if you dont get those fixed..

But if anything dont throw it away.. You can still use the onboard cardslot if all else fails...

Mopar

[mcarthur70]

well does anyone need a 102 chip lol its not looped !!!!