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dnice
07-22-2006, 01:43 AM
Is there any truth to the post below? Are ther 3 different types of 510's:


with R331
without R331 and no silk screen
without R331 but silk screen is presentDoes it matter which VID mod you perform (3-wire/1 cut or 4-wire/2 cut)? I heard that the 4 wire/2 cut method is the safest. Can the 4 wire/2 cut method be performed and any 510. Please help



PVR 501 508 510 Warning!
There are different board versions of these units, and I can’t tell you about all of them. What I can tell you is that if you’re going to vidmod, and your board doesn’t have R331, BE AWARE THE REGULAR VIDMOD WILL KILL YOUR SYSTEM! (Yes, I am shouting) This doesn’t mean that you can’t vidmod, but there are different instructions for doing a no R331 board.

I am aware of three boards with a number of chip combinations. Some have no R331 and it’s not even silk screened on the board. This is not the one I’m talking about. The next has R331 installed and the vidmod works on this one. The third board that I know about has the empty pads and a label for R331, but it’s not installed. This is the board that will self destruct if you do the regular vidmod. It will work long enough for you to change 7FFFFFAC, the whole reason for doing the vidmod in the first place! You may install you lock at this point, after carefully following tedious instructions. Imagine what you will think when the unit craps out right after you install the lock.

The symptoms of self destruction are:
The unit won’t boot (no picture)
Your Jkeys will retrieve the processor type, but it won’t get any other information.
You will get a DCU Control Error when you enter the program mode of Jkeys.

Talk about chasing your tail! Did your Jtag just crap out? It was just working. Did you fail to follow the instructions? Did you get sloppy? Did you hose the lock install? Did you blow U7? Before you get some Quick Chip and pull U7, I read from a guy who did that and put the chip in an external programmer and he was able to read it.

The vidmod for the “No R331” is basically the same under the board as the regular vidmod. The big difference is that you don’t put wire “A” and “B” together, as they will run to the switch. “A” will be the center of the switch, “B” will be one side, and 12v will be the other. There is no wire “C”. There is no mention of cutting the trace on top between the Tsops.

I haven’t tried any of this, so proceed at your own risk. I hope someone who knows more about this can chip in and tell us what’s damaged on the dead ones. I don’t have the answer. I hope this post saves someone from going through this.

chep
07-23-2006, 05:22 AM
Why do any of them?

You can mod the 510 safely without cutting a single trace and taking a chance on doing it wrong.

Look for R44 remove method.

It works and is way less stressful on the IRD and the user!!! :)

skinerd
07-23-2006, 06:44 AM
Why do any of them?

You can mod the 510 safely without cutting a single trace and taking a chance on doing it wrong.

Look for R44 remove method.

It works and is way less stressful on the IRD and the user!!! :)

There is a sticky in the receiver s forum about the vid mods.
The R44 method works great, you have to toggle the switch when changing screens in jkeys.
The R44 method does not work well with 320DT chips, works fine with 323GT chips tho.

dnice
07-23-2006, 07:00 AM
Which method should be used for the 320DT chip? And is the 320DT chip to only unit the R44 mod will not work on? Thanks to all for you help.

skinerd
07-23-2006, 08:21 AM
Which method should be used for the 320DT chip? And is the 320DT chip to only unit the R44 mod will not work on? Thanks to all for you help.
4 wire, 2 cut method......

there are only 2 types of chips in a 510, that I have seen, and I have seen a "few".

323GT and 320DT,

323DTs are found in some 501 and 508s and don't requite any mods.

chep
07-23-2006, 02:48 PM
i have done 10 -12 on the 510s and never had any issues. HOWEVER.... The R44 method with 320DT chips requires you to use 12 volts instead of the 9 volts for the 323GT chips. Absolutely the best method I have seen yet to get the job done short of a ex sub that you don't have to jtag or vidmod.

chep

chep
08-24-2006, 07:21 PM
There is a sticky in the receiver s forum about the vid mods.
The R44 method works great, you have to toggle the switch when changing screens in jkeys.
The R44 method does not work well with 320DT chips, works fine with 323GT chips tho.

I stand corrected Skinerd! :(

I have done many of these R44 mods but ....you are correct!

I could NOT get it to work with a 320DT chip. I had 2 of them this week and neither would write back to the protected sector? I don't see why it will allow you to erase the protected sector but not write back to it?

I guess I have had many different styles of chips but never an IRD with both chips being 320DTs.


I wanted to let you know that you were right and I was wrong....I still prefer the R44 mod to all other vidmods for the 50x series IRDs but guess the 320DT will just have to be done the old fashioned way!!!! LOL

skinerd
08-24-2006, 08:07 PM
According to the data sheet, the R44 mod should work with the 320DT chips, may need to kick it up to 14 volts, I don't tknow, cause 14v is not available on the board,(16v is), but I'd be afraid to try. Why ruin a 510 just being lazy...lol....

chep
08-24-2006, 11:13 PM
The 320DT chip is a wierd one indeed. most of the time jkeys will NOT allow you to erase the protected sector if it is not going to allow you to write to it?