Wierd Happenings

[four_sexta]

Hi,

I have a brand new 2800 receiver with a Rom 10 that was getting signal, for 2 months, on the 3 dishes (110, 119, 121) that I have pointed. All of a sudden, it no longer catches signal from the 121 but it still does catch signal from the 110 & 119. I know for a fact that the 121 dish is still aligned as I have connected my friend's 2800 receiver and all is fine. And the receiver is working because I can still catch the signal from the 110 & 119. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do?

I would greatly appreciate any help

[dRaNo]

Try a hard reboot, menu>6>3>info>right>left>tv/video, unplug ird for a few seconds, replug it in., run a check switch.

[four_sexta]

I tried that and it still doesn't work. I tried taking the receiver to my friend's house and it works in his house. Why does this receiver no longer work in my house?

[DL410]

You may have a bad LNB or a switch issue or a cable plant issue. Check your connectors for a piece of shield that is shorting inside to the center conductor or dialectric.
Maybe someting else hard to diagnose from your report.

[bobsmith161]

i would say you need a new SW21 a easy way to tell is remove the switch and go right to the dish for 121 with out 110,119

[four_sexta]

It's not a switch nor lnb issue because my friend's receiver works at my house. In summary, this is what's happening; My friend and I both have the exact same setup:

Friend's 2800 receiver: Gets satellite signal (110, 119, 121) in my house and in his house.

My 2800 receiver: Gets signal (110, 119, 121) in friend's house. In my house only gets 110, 119 and no signal from 121.

I'm stunned by this problem. Any more feedback would be greatly appreciated.

[Twostep]

Have you tested your friend's receiver IMMEDIATELY after checking yours, in your house?

DN has been intermittently dropping sats and transponders the past few days...several times I've lost channels, and the Sys Info screen shows one of the satellites not working. Sometimes 110, sometimes 119 or 121. Normally, they start working again after a few minutes, but not always. I understand one was down for several hours a few nights ago.

[four_sexta]

Yes, I tried both receivers at the same time. After doing a check switch my friend's receiver gets 110, 119, 121 odd/even transponders. My receiver just gets 110, 119 odd/even and no 121. Any more help would be great as I don't know what else to try.

Thanks

[Texas Trophy]

I don't even know where to begin to help you on that because that situation makes no sense whatsoever.

[four_sexta]

Yes, exactly how I feel...it doesn't make any sense. Do I have to do a check switch with 2 satellites first, before connecting a 3rd dish (121) to the switch 21x?

[toyman200028]

Is your firmware up to date?

[mrscig]

I know you would like to solve this phenomenon! Why go crazy? Since they are both the exact same receivers, just swap yours with your freinds. Problem solved! Now call Scully from the X-Files!!!!;) Phenomenon

[four_sexta]

Yes firmware is at P854. I would love to swap receivers but my friend wouldn't want to do that. I'm supposed to do a check switch checking off "full" & "alt" next to superdish, correct?

[jumbo768]

Yes firmware is at P854. I would love to swap receivers but my friend wouldn't want to do that. I'm supposed to do a check switch checking off "full" & "alt" next to superdish, correct?

are you using super dish? and do you have a dish pro lnb on you dish set up?
if you answered yes to either of these question you need a dish pro adapter in order for it to work with a legacy receiver. If you do have a dish pro adapter be sure its working to do this try switching with your neighbors adapter and set it up in your house... this is the only thing that makes sense

good luck

[four_sexta]

No, I'm not using a superdish and I'm not using dishpro lnbs either. I'm using a dish 500 (legacy lnbs) and a 33" FTA dish for the 121.

[jumbo768]

No, I'm not using a superdish and I'm not using dishpro lnbs either. I'm using a dish 500 (legacy lnbs) and a 33" FTA dish for the 121.

tell me what your neighbor has, same set-up as you or what?
at the same time I would run the 119 by itself to the receiver and remove all check marks in the signal screen and see if the 119 comes in by itself, if so then try doing same with 110 and if that works do the 121 if all 3 work seperately then get a 64 switch and try it, im not sure what switch you have or your neighbor has but usually with 3 sat input with legacies lnbs and fta lnb you use a sw 64 or another 3 sat switch thats after market and cheaper... also if your neighbor has a super dish he will have pro lnbs and a dp 34 switch... so give me as much info as you can....

[four_sexta]

My neighbour has 3 dishes (110, 119, 121). I have a dish 500 (110, 119) and another dish for 121. We're both using the same switches & legacy equipment. His receiver (2700) detects all 3 birds at my house, and my receiver (2800) only detects the dish500 (110, 119) at my house. I connected my 2800 receiver directly to my 121 dish & the signal will at times come in (very inconsistent). And I find that I need to put to transponder 17 first and then the signal for the other transponders on the same sat will work, but very inconsistently. Meanwhile, when I connect his receiver (2800) directly to my 121 dish, the signal will come in without a problem. If my receiver was damaged then it would not get signal from the 110 & 119 too, which isn't the case. This one has got me thinking really, really hard.

[VOLTRON]

Just for kicks try cleaning the copper center wire on your connection at the lnb and or switch.. It might be that your at the threshold of supply voltage.

[four_sexta]

I will try cleaning the copper center wire but I don't think that's the problem because I'm using the exact same wire when I connect my neighbour's receiver, which is able to detect the 121 dish. BTW I thank everyone for their suggestions.

[chep]

For about 25-30 dollars you can buy a NEW 2800 and give yourself a break.

You will at least be able to prove that it is your dish setup and not the ird as it sounds like cause you can get yours to work at the neighbors, the neighbors to work at your house but not yours at home?

[spanga]

was the 121 signal lower than the 110/119 signals to begin with and have the 110/119 signal strengths dropped since your problem began.......if so that would point to your receiver (or switch) as the problem....if not, then the 121 feed is the problem.....your neighbour may have a slightly hotter receiver and can get 121 on your feed (check signal strenght on his hooked up at your house).....there has to be a logical explanation.....my instincts tell me it is the feed from your 121...i've seen receivers get video with a 12" gap in the cable run....not able to change channels but enough picture for buddy to yell "thats it!"....the fact that your rcvr works at your buddies's house really leads me away from your receiver....pls keep us posted...this is an interesting scenario for sure...lol

[jumbo768]

My neighbour has 3 dishes (110, 119, 121). I have a dish 500 (110, 119) and another dish for 121. We're both using the same switches & legacy equipment. His receiver (2700) detects all 3 birds at my house, and my receiver (2800) only detects the dish500 (110, 119) at my house. I connected my 2800 receiver directly to my 121 dish & the signal will at times come in (very inconsistent). And I find that I need to put to transponder 17 first and then the signal for the other transponders on the same sat will work, but very inconsistently. Meanwhile, when I connect his receiver (2800) directly to my 121 dish, the signal will come in without a problem. If my receiver was damaged then it would not get signal from the 110 & 119 too, which isn't the case. This one has got me thinking really, really hard.

Before we all go crazy do yourself a favor, get another run of cable RG6 and connect it to the 121 lnb then back to the receiver and see if the signal stablelizes, the fact your signal fluctuates could mean a bad cable, its a fact that 99% of satellite signal problems are cabl related, some receivers react dif from same problem, I would try that first. So here it is in a nut shell do that or reflash your receiver . There's really nothing else to try... If you feel the 121 Cable is ok then reflash it and the eeprom and then take lattest update..... most logical people would say that if his 2800 works on your stuff and your 2800 don't work then change the receiver..... I'm still leaning to the cable... If you take a wire from eith the 110 or the 119 can you reach the 121 to switch it with out having to buy a new one? if so the do that if you get same results then its not the cable, a bad connecto will do same thing, example is when you put a new end on the cable you must be sure that there are no strains of the shield comming in contact with center copper conductor....

[four_sexta]

The signal from the 110 & 119 have been consistent all along; they haven't dropped.

I tried a different RG6 cable. I connected it directly from the 121 to my 2800 & then to the neighbours 2700 receiver. Same problem though. His receiver gets signal while mine doesn't. I will try reflashing my receiver with my neighbour's tsop. The thing is, his build conf. is CASD while mine is CAED. Will I be able to flash his tsop onto mine?

Thanks

[Homer J. Simpson]

is your tsop config the exact same 4 letters as the one on the sticker inside the box?

[four_sexta]

when I read my tsop in Flash Edit it says "CAEA". But when I peak inside the receiver the sticker reads "CAED"

[spanga]

only first three letters must match.....(i believe they are for the eeprom though...you should be able to flash the tsop from your buddy's..but not his eeprom).......don't quote me on that last part ..... anyone?

[jumbo768]

The signal from the 110 & 119 have been consistent all along; they haven't dropped.

I tried a different RG6 cable. I connected it directly from the 121 to my 2800 & then to the neighbours 2700 receiver. Same problem though. His receiver gets signal while mine doesn't. I will try reflashing my receiver with my neighbour's tsop. The thing is, his build conf. is CASD while mine is CAED. Will I be able to flash his tsop onto mine?

Thanks

Most dish tsops end in D on m/b but read as casa in jkeys not a problem, I used a casa on a caea receiver and it worked so it should for you, you can download tsops from here or from another big sight where they have them
hxxx://xxx.rom10x.com

[four_sexta]

Hi everyone! First and foremost I want to thank you all for having offered suggestions. Today, I decided to buy a new lnb for the 121 and switched it with the one I currently had. I now get signal for the 121 on my receiver and on the neighbour's receiver. This one really got me thinking. Never would have I thought that it was the lnb since one receiver got signal from it and the other one did not. The lnb must have been defective or something. But I finally resolved this issue. Once again, thanks for all the help.

[spanga]

ha ha......i love this hobby...good work sexta