Bush Postpones 2008 Election

[btester1]

That's awful, what a dictator. He needs to get impeached.

9/11 crimes will catch up to you sooner or later George.

news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060731/cm_thenation/20060814gillers (http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060731/cm_thenation/20060814gillers)

[major1]

That's awful, what a dictator. He needs to get impeached.

9/11 crimes will catch up to you sooner or later George.

news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060731/cm_thenation/20060814gillers (http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060731/cm_thenation/20060814gillers)

And people believe that s*** !!!!

[t160hq]

And people believe that s*** !!!!

And why not. Ceasar now has his army supporting his cause.

All he has to do is bring them across the Rubicon and take
over Rome. Dictator for life.

Anyways there is a eaiser way. It can be done by that joke
now refered to as the congress. Bush can just order them
to suspend the two term rule brought in after WWII. Then
he can order Homeland Security to look the other way
while terrorists bomb polling places that would support
a democratic president. To be fair a order likely won't be
needed considering Homeland Security's track record.

Next he blames it on the terrorists.

Then it's just a matter of informing the public that only he
can protect us.

Then he's in like a shot.

t160hq

[greypower]

This shit should be moved to the "Jokes" forum where it belongs!

[thorn1968]

Joke or not...you've got to ask yourself is it possible? Can this man realy do this? Can you trust those electronic voting machines? If it can be programed, it can be hacked. If it can be hacked, the results can be manipulated.

Let's hope we don't have to use our right to bare arms to overthrow our own government. If you read your history books, assuming they haven't been reprinted yet, that's why we have that right.

[thorn1968]

Now I'm just waiting for the white van with the dark tinted windows to take me to Guantanamo!

[fubr]

There is a bigger chance of an economic collapse and a rouge group of people take over because they control all the money for our food and fuel and electricity.
or
20 years from now we all speak Chinese. Lucky for us the Chinese have the leave us alone and we will leave you alone policy, as long as china is self sufficient we should be ok. Soon as we piss them off on interfere in their lives we better watch out.
This comfortable lifestyle we have been granted will not always be around, Things will change one day.

If we loose Internet, electricity, fuel what kinda life are we going to live.
I say keep it over there and use up their oil as long as we can,, The longer they fight among them selves in Mid East the longer we can have the luxuries we are so accustomed to now.
One day there will be no more oil, who will be the last country with oil?
On a side note that should cure the global warming therory since we will no longer be burning fossil fuels!!

[greypower]

Joke or not...you've got to ask yourself is it possible? Can this man realy do this? Can you trust those electronic voting machines? If it can be programed, it can be hacked. If it can be hacked, the results can be manipulated.

Let's hope we don't have to use our right to bare arms to overthrow our own government. If you read your history books, assuming they haven't been reprinted yet, that's why we have that right.

Wait a minute! How can a guy whom you lefties label an idiot and a moron, have the smarts to pull off a coup like that????

BTW - it's the right to "bear" arms, not "bare", unless of course you happen to be wearing your Michael Moore T-Shirt.

[JT]

And why not. Ceasar now has his army supporting his cause.
All he has to do is bring them across the Rubicon and take
over Rome. Dictator for life.
Anyways there is a eaiser way. It can be done by that joke
now refered to as the congress. Bush can just order them
to suspend the two term rule brought in after WWII. Then
he can order Homeland Security to look the other way
while terrorists bomb polling places that would support
a democratic president. To be fair a order likely won't be
needed considering Homeland Security's track record.
Next he blames it on the terrorists.
Then it's just a matter of informing the public that only he
can protect us.
Then he's in like a shot.
t160hq

Two points to add to your post t160hq. First, GWB has only been ELECTED to one term. His first term he was appointed by the supreme court. So technically, he can still run for a third term without even changing the two term rule. Second, Dibold has already fixed the electronic polling stations. It's a computer, it can and will be hacked in one form or another given what's at stake. You know, they'll shave to numbers just enough to get the job done without looking too suspicious no matter who runs for the office. So no reason to bomb any of the polls either. :D

[greypower]

Two points to add to your post t160hq. First, GWB has only been ELECTED to one term. His first term he was appointed by the supreme court. So technically, he can still run for a third term without even changing the two term rule. Second, Dibold has already fixed the electronic polling stations. It's a computer, it can and will be hacked in one form or another given what's at stake. You know, they'll shave to numbers just enough to get the job done without looking too suspicious no matter who runs for the office. So no reason to bomb any of the polls either. :D


1- The supreme court at that time was primarily liberal.

2- In the eyes of the left, he stole BOTH elections.

3- If the Dems would come up with some kind of positive, constructive platform, instead of simply bashing the administration, more people would vote for them.

[fubr]

still more Americans voted for B DUB than dint, so appointed or not he still won the job.
of course I would have said the same thing if I happened to be for the other guy too :) But since at that time I was for G Dub I say that whole thing was BS. He won flat out.
No matter what the democrats are so desperate that they will never support him nor will he ever do anything right in their eyes.

[greypower]

For the left, its all about regaining power. Nothing else matters.
So far, this appears to be their platform:

Terrorism - What terrorism? They're really just freedom-fighters.

Border security - Who cares, we need all those immigrants to vote Democrat.

Social security - What, me worry?

[Twostep]

If the Dems would come up with some kind of positive, constructive platform, instead of simply bashing the administration, more people would vote for them.
One of the few sensible statements in this entire thread. Unfortunately, Joe Lieberman tried just that....and the Democratic Party cannibalized him in a manner that makes Jeffrey Dahmer look like an amateur.

The Democratic party I knew when growing up actually had some really decent ideas, things that were good for the folks that put them in office in the first place. I've always been a conservative but have voted for many Dems in the past, on a local, state and federal level.

There's not one far-left senator or congressman/woman (and that's where the Dem party has shifted to) that has offered even ONE realistic solution to ANYTHING, other than to repeat over and over "get out of Iraq now" or "tax those corporations to their knees, and give the money to the poor. Give an extra bonus to those who can work but won't." Or "Bush lied, people died, impeach Bush now".

I'm firmly convinced because of round-the-clock partisan attacks, this country is in the worst shape it's ever been in. It just never stops. I blame the media as much as I do anybody. If these scumbags didn't have a worldwide stage to spread their shit around (like these lunatic Bush-was-behind-9/11 ideas), they might actually concentrate on something else...like doing their fucking job, for example.

[fubr]

If the Dems would come up with some kind of positive, constructive platform, instead of simply bashing the administration, more people would vote for them.


I'm firmly convinced because of round-the-clock partisan attacks, this country is in the worst shape it's ever been in. It just never stops. I blame the media as much as I do anybody. If these scumbags didn't have a worldwide stage to spread their shit around (like these lunatic Bush-was-behind-9/11 ideas), they might actually concentrate on something else...like doing their fucking job, for example.
two no-shitters statements.

[thorn1968]

allow me to bare my a$$ while I moon you ( | )

a bear $h|+$ in the woods

I should have used my dictionary to remind me on 10th grade english....20 years is a long time to remember the difference

I guess it's time to reread the bill of rights before it's taken away a little by little over time.

Live free or die!

[alsouthster]

1- The supreme court at that time was primarily liberal.


Say what? Where you pulling that from?
Seven of the nine judges at the time were appointed by Republicans. The five who um appointed W were all appointed by Republicans; three by Reagan, one by Bush, one by Nixon.
Liberal as opposed to now maybe, but hardly a liberal court

[greypower]

allow me to bare my a$$ while I moon you ( | )

a bear $h|+$ in the woods

I should have used my dictionary to remind me on 10th grade english....20 years is a long time to remember the difference

I guess it's time to reread the bill of rights before it's taken away a little by little over time.

Live free or die!

Your real enemies are external not internal.

[thorn1968]

Your real enemies are external not internal.
You may condem me for this if you wish....

I would rather see a few innocent people die...and a few guilty people set free...If it preserves my freedoms. That's the price you may pay to live in a free society. I do not promote anarchy, but I do not want to live in a fascist state.

[realfire]

You may condem me for this if you wish....

I would rather see a few innocent people die...and a few guilty people set free...If it preserves my freedoms. That's the price you may pay to live in a free society. I do not promote anarchy, but I do not want to live in a fascist state.


They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -

[alsouthster]

I blame the media as much as I do anybody.

Funny how both sides, liberal Volvo drivers and right wingnuts, blame the other side's media.

Whereas Twostep might see a liberal-controlled media pandering to the eastern elite, I see AM talk radio that's just about totally right wing (when it's not doing drugs and adjusting its hearing piece) and a major cable news outlet that is essentially a propaganda arm of the existing government.

However, I would blame the liberal media, i.e Judith Miller and the NYTimes, and the rest of the liberal hawks, for being a bunch of pussies and jumping on the Fox bandwagon instead of questioning the WMD claims.

I might add that one of the main reasons I got into "testing" was to get Fox news and Italian Rai, both of which were illegal in Canada. If you ask me most media is shyte, what I try to do is get access to a lot of it from all over the world and try and sort out the "reality." Oh yea, and travel as much as possible and be interested and open to the ideas of other cultures.

So that when you do have to nail em cuz they really are wrong ( the Taliban, for example) you know how their weak spots, you have a good plan, and you have a chance of WINNING

v70 AWD hahaha

[1one]

Whew! Betester1, I'll bet you didnt think this would go this far. Did Ya?

[Twostep]

However, I would blame the liberal media, i.e Judith Miller and the NYTimes, and the rest of the liberal hawks, for being a bunch of pussies and jumping on the Fox bandwagon instead of questioning the WMD claims.

Say WHAT !!!????

The New York Times jumping on the FoxNews bandwagon? Judith Miller ??!!?? Tell me you're joking, AlSouthster...please...:eek:

And I blamed the MEDIA, not the LIBERAL or the CONSERVATIVE media. I'm not naive enough to think that conservatives never attack liberals in a malicious manner. Heard of Ann Coulter, haven't you?

Volvo V70, eh? Nice set of wheels...but not near as much fun as my 1965 Cobra 427. I make a habit of setting the tires on fire whenever I spot an unsuspecting Prius owner.:D

Al Gore would love it.

[seaboard18]

I blame Exxon and BP.

[Mesquiter]

My how we digress. Shoud this not be in another forum?
mesquiter

[Twostep]

Well, suppose it should, Mesquiter...

Let's see...this is the Political Discussions forum - and the title of the thread is 'Bush Postpones 2008 Election'. All the posts center around liberal vs. conservative political points of view, and the antics of George Bush.

What forum would you like it moved to, bro?:)

[alsouthster]

Saw Ann Coulter on Cspan the other night, not a bad rack for someone so skinny. But then she started to talk and I changed the channel hahaha.

Judith Miller was manipulated by Libby/Cheney to plant key stories in the NYTimes that lent credence to the claims of WMD. This influenced the rest of the liberal media, who should have been investigating the assertions...which turned out to be untrue, agreed?

Ok, not exactly jumping on the Fox bandwagon lol ...but on the Fox wavelength in that they were supporting govt claims they should have been tearing apart.

re Volvo, what can I say, good in the snow.
Though I admit I stopped fixing the expensive pollution control devices that kept breaking down, so now the orange Check Engine light is permanently on, and Al Gore would not be happy lol

[marin001]

still more Americans voted for B DUB than dint, so appointed or not he still won the job.
of course I would have said the same thing if I happened to be for the other guy too :) But since at that time I was for G Dub I say that whole thing was BS. He won flat out.
No matter what the democrats are so desperate that they will never support him nor will he ever do anything right in their eyes.

it was a bought election and even the press expressed the same thing at that time and wondered how in the hell he won. even he knew he lost. but he knew once money exchanged hands it was a done deal. he wanted this war from the time he was holding office in texas and mentioned it while in office if elected this would happen. he knew a war would raise oil prices and his oil companies are sitting high and pretty. but like the old saying goes ''what goes around, comes around'' and i hope when he gets his it hurts as much as he hurt everyone in this country. this time around they'll be watching the polls in florida very close, he won't be able to do it again. (or should i say his brother)

[realfire]

it was a bought election and even the press expressed the same thing at that time and wondered how in the hell he won. even he knew he lost. but he knew once money exchanged hands it was a done deal. he wanted this war from the time he was holding office in texas and mentioned it while in office if elected this would happen. he knew a war would raise oil prices and his oil companies are sitting high and pretty. but like the old saying goes ''what goes around, comes around'' and i hope when he gets his it hurts as much as he hurt everyone in this country. this time around they'll be watching the polls in florida very close, he won't be able to do it again. (or should i say his brother)

what goes around comes around, a great ratt song

I hope your right, for example hopefully one of his love ones or W himself will
be in a wheelchair soon, then lets see what he thinks about stemcell research
then

fiscal conservative here, social liberal

social conservatives piss me off, get the hay seeds out of your eyes

[vampire]

what goes around comes around, a great ratt song
yes

Actually the name of the song is called Round and Round - Yes I agree great song!

Hate for my first post to be a response to this idiotic article but it appears appropriate as btester1 only has 2 posts to his credit.

Sounds to me like Stephen Gillers (the person who authored this article) found a flux capacitor for his Delorian time machine and went to the future to get this information.

The yahoo URL indicates that this is an opinion article. If you look a little closer the date that this occured on is July 21, 2008.

This shit should be moved to the "Jokes" forum where it belongs!

I dont think this thread needs to be moved to jokes forum, it needs to be deleted because it is trash.

[realfire]

yeah but stephen pearcey says what goes around comes around, I'll tell you why

but he never does, yep this thread is kinda dumb, but it's off the wall with some

good old fashioned jacking

[greypower]

it was a bought election and even the press expressed the same thing at that time and wondered how in the hell he won. even he knew he lost. but he knew once money exchanged hands it was a done deal. he wanted this war from the time he was holding office in texas and mentioned it while in office if elected this would happen. he knew a war would raise oil prices and his oil companies are sitting high and pretty. but like the old saying goes ''what goes around, comes around'' and i hope when he gets his it hurts as much as he hurt everyone in this country. this time around they'll be watching the polls in florida very close, he won't be able to do it again. (or should i say his brother)


You forgot to mention that Bush brought down the World Trade Center, and steered hurricane Katrina into New Orleans, but otherwise you've covered the usual moveondotorg bull$hit. LMAO!

[realfire]

also failed to mention bush couldn't find his asshole with a funnel, but he is the
leader of the semi-free world

[vampire]

also failed to mention bush couldn't find his asshole with a funnel, but he is the
leader of the semi-free world

Gotta admit that I cant seem to find my a$$hole with a funnel, I think my butt cheeks would scrunch up real tight. It's that homophobic thing I guess-

Boy, are we way off topic or what - Like I said, this thread is for the trash.

[Bandit5906]

also failed to mention bush couldn't find his asshole with a funnel, but he is the
leader of the semi-free world


What do you base that insipid remark upon? I am continually amazed by the hate of the Liberal Marxists!

[realfire]

just a fiscal conservative, social liberal,

fuck welfare

fuck high taxes

love guns

fuck pushing your religion, separation of chuch & state

stay the fuck out of our titty bars & private lives, with fags, abortion ect. also

who gives a fuck if 2 guys get married, let them suffer like every one else

can't even afford health insurance & people are worried about stupid shit like that

[realfire]

Gotta admit that I cant seem to find my a$$hole with a funnel, I think my butt cheeks would scrunch up real tight. It's that homophobic thing I guess-

Boy, are we way off topic or what - Like I said, this thread is for the trash.


vampire, try one of those tranny funnels, stay with plastic walmart sells,
the metal one @ napa could cause problems

[badger6]

What do you base that insipid remark upon? I am continually amazed by the hate of the Liberal Marxists! I don't vote and I'm not political in any sence of the word. Having said that, good ole "w" as we call him, is a retarded idiot. He is like a pet rock or a chia pet, after 3 days he is pretty much useless. What most people need to realize is that its not about democrats or republicans, its about this country having a leader with integrity, regardless of what side he is from. Someone with real priorities and not just a selfish agenda. How can we fight terrorism if we can't even fight illegal immigration, what a joke the polliticians have turned this country into. If good old george bush is the best this country has to offer as a leader, we are in real trouble as a country. Its really too bad that this country was bought and paid for a long time ago, and that is something that isn't going to change regardless of who you vote for, and thats a fact jack.

[kb0reu]

Only Retarts Dont Vote

[badger6]

Only Retarts Dont Vote First of all, I'm going to overlook you calling me a "retart", as a favor to you (whatever the fuck that is ???). Second of all, I decide if I vote, not you. There is no need for me to vote for anyone that I don't think is qualified for the job. And g. w. bush, IS NOT qualified to pick the lint out of a monkeys ass. Third of all. If you wish to convey a message, especially in a forum. Please learn to spell the words you choose to use. goodbye.

[Twostep]

This is a bit off center, but what do ya'll think of the Lieberman defeat this evening, to far-left bombthrower Lamont?

I think it's sad. Lieberman is a pretty good dude. I don't always agree with him politically, but I respect him tremendously as a man of honor and integrity. The Democratic Party could use a few more like him. Hell, I'd vote for the guy myself if I lived in Connecticut.

Badger, I see you have a new avatar. I kinda like it...it's not retarted, either.:D

[realfire]

Only Retarts Dont Vote

my favorite retart is apple I think, but the cherry is pretty good also

growing up in ohio we called them tarts or mini pies, of course we had pop also

things must be different in colorado

[cojones]

aHHHH! Poptarts!:D on the beach!

[thorn1968]

Ok...say this a few times out loud, if you haven't figured it out, say it to a friend and see if they can.

I-YAM-SOFA-KING-WE-TODD-DID

[kb0reu]

He still got the meaning i thought he would only know phonics '
if you dont care enought to vote then you dont care you gust want to piss and moan.

[badger6]

Well, oh wise one tell me one thing. If none of the canadates are qualified to carry out the job at hand, why would I vote for any of them. And by the way, I can piss and moan about anything that I want to. Since you voted for that idiot (I assume), you are the one that doesn't have a right to complain about any of it, cause you are part of the problem. Me on the other hand, didn't vote for him and complain about anything I feel like.

[1one]

badger6,
Dont say that on the net or phone lines. He has you watched. You should know that!

[badger6]

I will b ok 1one, ain't worried at all. The truth speaks for itself.

[Bandit5906]

Yes it does and the Red States have spoken. Tell me how many airlanes he crashed vs how many John McCain crashed (hint: you gotta be somewhat intelligent to fly one of them)!

[JT]

That's not a very good comparison. McCain got shot down while bombing Hanoi, the most fortified targets in the entire war were there when McCain was hit by a SAM. To hear him tell the story is something else. I have a buddy that was a navigator in a Marine A6 during that time. These guys have balls of steel and then some. Comparing someone like McCain to Bush is insulting to those who know the difference between someone who was repeatedly shot at and kept their cool vs. someone who never left the US and dodged their responsibility to serve thier country.

[Bandit5906]

That's not a very good comparison. McCain got shot down while bombing Hanoi, the most fortified targets in the entire war were there when McCain was hit by a SAM. To hear him tell the story is something else. I have a buddy that was a navigator in a Marine A6 during that time. These guys have balls of steel and then some. Comparing someone like McCain to Bush is insulting to those who know the difference between someone who was repeatedly shot at and kept their cool vs. someone who never left the US and dodged their responsibility to serve thier country.

I was talking about the fact that McCain crashed and totaled three planes the first three times he tried to learn to fly them, while Bush did not! I was not bringing into question McCain's military record (although he did try to commit suicide several times while captured).

I was just stating that McCain is not very smart. Nevermind the McCain/Keeting five <spit> which again shows just how stupid McCain is! Let us not forget his "campaign finance reform" bill and how that trampled on our rights!

[t160hq]

I was talking about the fact that McCain crashed a totaled three planes the first three times he tried to learn to fly them, while Bush did not! I was not bringing into question McCain's military record (although he did try to commit suicide several times while captured).

I was just stating that McCain is not very smart. Nevermind the McCain/Keeting five <spit> which again shows just how stupid McCain is!

Got to admit Bandit has a point. I know if I spent a couple years in the
Hanoi Hilton I would not have failed in my suicide attempt.

I wouldn't consider it suicide though. Knowing what was going to happen
to the guards that failed to prevent my death.

t160hq

[JT]

Ok, your really pissing on my parade here Bandit. McCain is a war hero, and you don't have the right to diss the man. He evaded three SAM's before the fourth one tagged him that day in Hanoi. He was a war prisioner in a country that did not honor the geneva convention in terms of how they were supposed to treat captured soldiers. In a way your right though. If you never fly a plane, as in Bush's situation, you never get shot down or crash a plane. McCain was dodging live fire during the Vietnam conflict. Bush was hiding here in the states serving his guard duty working as a gopher for a senator in Alabama.

[Bandit5906]

John McCain could not fly his way out of a bathroom (WC). McCain has done all he could to shut us down with the McCain/Feingold bill and he is just a old man trying to become President.

BTW: I was there in Viet Namn as a civilian programmer for HP and programming rocket launches! Not a fun time for all! Tell me all about it!

[badger6]

Don't know how we went from talking about "Curious George" w bush and his silly ass antics to talking about McCain. A classic tactic of justifying stupid actions by pointing out someones elses actions. McCain has nothing to do with bush being an idiot.

[Twostep]

McCain may be a war hero - anyone who survived years in a Vietnamese prison has a piece of my respect, for certain - but that doesn't necessarily qualify him for President. I won't vote for him, but that's not to say in any way that I don't consider him a fine person.

JT's a fine guy, too, but I ain't voting for him, either...:p
I honestly don't know who I'd pick, from either party, in 2008. I'm not that hyped on any of them. GWB sure wouldn't be my pick, if he were eligible for a third term. In fact, I'm pretty sick of politics, period. In my mind, it's little more than a necessary evil - and that's a shame.
If you think Capitol Hill is corrupt, you should visit my city. The folks running this place are so stinking crooked they have to screw their boots on every morning. :eek:

[JT]

Believe it or not, I probably won't be voting McCain either assuming he runs in 2008. (wouldn't vote for myself either twostep:D , but that gave me a good laugh, so thanks) Must be something about those politicians from Texas eh......

[JT]

The government today announced that it is changing its emblem from an Eagle to a condom because it more accurately reflects the government's political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed!

[realfire]

Bush, said Staudt, "said he wanted to fly just like his daddy."

Bush's father had volunteered for service in World War II at the age of 18 and was shot down while flying combat missions in the Pacific theater. By enlisting in the Guard, his son not only avoided Vietnam but was able to spend much of his time on active duty in his home town of Houston, flying F-102 fighter interceptors out of Ellington Air Force Base.

In discussing his own decision, he has always said his main consideration was that he wanted to be a pilot, and the National Guard gave him a chance to do that. In 1989 he tried to describe his own thought process to a Texas interviewer. "I'm saying to myself, 'What do I want to do?' I think I don't want to be an infantry guy as a private in Vietnam. What I do decide to want to do is learn to fly."

Asked in a recent interview whether he was avoiding the draft, Bush said, "No, I was becoming a pilot."

Four months before enlisting, Bush reported at Westover Air Force Base in Massachusetts to take the Air Force Officers Qualification Test. While scoring 25 percent for pilot aptitude – "about as low as you could get and be accepted," according to Martin – and 50 percent for navigator aptitude in his initial testing, he scored 65 percent on questions designed to reflect "officer quality," compared with a current-day average of 88 percent.

Among the questions Bush had to answer on his application forms was whether he wanted to go overseas. Bush checked the box that said: "do not volunteer."

Bush said in an interview that he did not recall checking that box

[realfire]

and do you really believe bush could land on an aircraft carrier, he could bearly
fly a cessna

[realfire]

Bush really flying in a Cessna 172 in 1976:
NOT LONG AFTER Reisner's delicate trip to Midland[summer 1976], Bush banged on the door of Susie and Don Evans on an otherwise placid Sunday afternoon and suggested to Don that they head out to the airport and spend a few bucks for a spin over the desiccated Permian Basin in a single-engine Cessna. Susie Evans, who had gone to elementary school with Bush, was a longtime Midland presence, and when she had been dating her future husband in Houston, she had frequently stayed at the Bush house. She had moved back to Midland, and after she had heard that Bush was back in town, she and her husband had frequently invited him over.

Her husband Don Evans... Willard... was a short, fastidious, narrow-faced oilman in his early thirties who was poised to assume control of the Tom Brown Company, one of the legendary older names in the West Texas patch. Bush had begun spending more time at the Evanses' apartment in the Windsor Courts, drinking cocktails with them and leaving his laundry for Susie to do. Bush liked Evans's politics, he liked that they were about the same age and that both of them had recent MBAs. He liked the fact that Evans's old man had landed on the beach at Normandy during World War II.

Evans said he'd love to go flying. At the airport he watched Bush stare at the controls, at the panel, and he realized that Bush-though not admitting it-had no idea how to fly the thing properly. After finally figuring out how to launch the plane, Bush pushed the Cessna hard down the runway. Evans screamed, "Give it some gas!" The Cessna's warning system was blinking and crackling. Bush tried to lift his craft fast, almost as if he were piloting a jet back in the Texas Air National Guard. The plane wobbled into the air, and the unsubtle maneuvering threatened to shove it into a stall. Now the rented plane was rattling in the sky over Midland

The endless petrochemical complexes, all the aluminum and steel and smoke stacks that pockmark the Permian Basin, were spiking up just below the aircraft. Bush nervously turned to Evans, put his hand on his knee and blurted in his self-mocking West Texas way, "Okay, Evvie, I’ve got it under control."

After more seemingly endless moments, he somehow got control of the plane again. He aimed the aircraft down, and the landing was as shaky and brutal as the takeoff. The plane careened off the runway and onto the desert. Evans sighed in relief. Then an unbelieving Evans braced himself as Bush suddenly and unexpectedly spun the plane and bounced back along the runway. Evans stared at Bush. He could see the fear and panic flooding his face. Bush pressed on. Evans had no idea why Bush wanted to go again. The plane wobbled uncertainly back into the West Texas skies, and Bush turned to Evans. "Hey," said Bush airily, as if he had just had an original, amusing idea, "let's fly around Midland."

The men began cracking up. Bush brought the Cessna back to the airport. It was the last time he flew a plane. Evans would be one of the three people at Bush's side in almost every public venture for the twenty-three years.

[Twostep]

Bush nervously turned to Evans, put his hand on his knee and blurted in his self-mocking West Texas way, "Okay, Evvie, I’ve got it under control."

And 30 years later, he's "Staying the Course"....:p

Sorry, GW, it's time for some roasting, never mind the fact that I've been a southern conservative all my life. GW's done some things right - but he's become an ineffective leader; this country is divided down the middle as never before; we've become the Separated States. Not entirely his fault, however......

As I see it, it doesn't really matter who's in the White House. You or I could take the job. If Congress can't get together on ANYTHING and put partisan politics aside for 5 minutes, I'm afraid the Eagle is in for a rough landing:(

[realfire]

October 20, 1942

The U.S. government, under the Trading with the Enemy Act, ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City that were being conducted by Prescott Bush. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares, all of which were owned by Prescott Bush, Avrell Harriman, three Nazi executives, and two other associates of Bush.


could you imagine for a minute clinton's grandpappy envolved with the nazi's, fat ass limbaugh could never let it go

how the fuck did W get into yale when his grades were not good enough to be a longhorn, his first choice

[JT]

OH man, that "staying the course" idea he's got going is killing me, and it's taking money out of all our pockets in case you havn't noticed. Sometimes the wisest thing to do is fold your hand and cut your losses. Bush's bluff isn't 'flying' in todays world any more. Only reason I can see that makes any sense we're even still in Iraq is that Halliburton and other major campaign contributors are making $ hand over fist from the deal.

[Bandit5906]

How about this: the reason we are in Iraq (now) is that if we leave the only other deterrant for Iran taking over the Middle East will be Isreal.

If or when Iran controls the Middle East then it will have the ability to do what it has threatened to do: destroy the West's economy and advance Islam as the leading fourth century religon.

To cut and run would be fatal for America, IMHO!

hXXp://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/02/video-al-qaeda-tells-us-to-convert-or-die/

"Islam is the only religion acceptable to God and came with the revealed book, the Koran, which abrogates all previous revelations, like the Torah and Evangel... God recognizes no separation between religion and state..."

"To Americans and the rest of Christendom we say, either repent (your) misguided ways and enter into the light of truth or keep your poison to yourself and suffer the consequences in this world and the next..."

"If the Zionist crusader missionaries of hate and counter-Islam consultants like Daniel Pipes, Robert Spencer, Michael Scheuer, Steven Emerson, and yes, even the crusader-in-chief George W. Bush were to abandon their unbelief and repent and enter into the light of Islam and turn their swords against the enemies of God, it would be accepted of them and they would be our brothers in Islam. And we send a special invitation to all of you fighting Bush's crusader pipe dream in Afghanistan, Iraq, and wherever else W. has sent you to die."

[realfire]

unbelievable, sort of reminds of the book, "what's the matter with kansas"

“A fire-and-brimstone essay on false consciousness on the Great Plains. 'The poorest county in America . . . is on the Great Plains, a region of struggling ranchers and dying farm towns,' writes native Kansan and Baffler founding editor Frank, 'and in the election of 2000 the Republican candidate for president, George W. Bush, carried it by a majority greater than 80 percent.' How, Frank wonders, can it be that such a polity-honest toilers descended from free-soil, abolitionist progressives and prairie socialists-could back such a man who showed little concern then and has showed little concern since for the plight of the working class? And how can it be that such a place would forget its origins as a hotbed of what the historian Walter Prescott Webb called 'persistent radicalism,' as the seedbed of Social Security and of agrarian reform, to side with the bosses, to back an ideology that promises the destruction of the liberal state's social-welfare safety net? Whatever the root causes, many of which seem to have something to do with fear and loathing of big-city types and ethnic minorities, Kansas voters-and even the Vietnam vets among them-seem to have picked up on the mantra that the 'snobs on the coasts' are the enemy, and that Bush ('a man so ham-handed in his invocations of the Lord that he occasionally slips into blasphemy') and company are friends and deliverers . . . Even so, he sees the tiniest ray of hope for modern progressives: after all, he notes, the one Kansas county that sports a NASCAR track went for Al Gore in 2000. A bracing, unabashedly partisan, and very smart work of red-state trendspotting.

[gatekeeper5348]

i am an american and i can not say one good thing about bush, he gives this country away little by little everyday, we have homeless people, poor people, single parents and flood victims that are starving and we are giving money to iraq, china and other 3rd world countries that would bomb the fuck out of us if they could!! also, we worry about oil problems, when there is enough oil in alaska to last forever!! gas $3.00 a gallon what the fuck~!!! reagan would have bombed iraq and claimed it in the name of the u.s. and our flag would be the flag they fly there!! then we would pay 5 cents a gallon like the iraqi people do! the only bush i am in favor of grows between a girls legs!!

[Bandit5906]

Another Daily Kos member?

[realfire]

let me profile you,

mid 50's most likely from the southeast

probably lives in a small town where everyone is a dem. but votes rep.

loves fox news, fair & balanced

no college

was in the armed forces

uses the term grand baby freely

believes that the world is 6000 years old

anti union

likes the way the country is heading even though gm was replaced by wallyworld as the nation's largest employer

has no problem @ all with the assault on the middle class, jobs going south of the border ect.

considers gay marriage & abortion as important as affordable healthcare & good us. jobs

likes to talk about the daily kos what ever the hell that is, a left newspaper?

a website? I guess I'll google it, I consider myself a fiscal con but have to admit

social cons & neo's drive me nuts

[twoisland]

and how is hilliary"stand by your man" clinton,and al"internet" gore gonna fix this mess...what a joke the dems are no better than the reps...your stuck with 2 retarded groups of people.....

[gatekeeper5348]

fuck everyone in washington they all suck not one good one in the bunch!! i forgot to mention before, our immigration problem wait until canada gets our overflow you guys will be fucked!@! i know for a fact our country will make some backdoor fucking deal with canada to take some of them in when there is no more room here!! and money talks people!! you do not want our immigration problems believe me!! live close to them you find out quick what i am talking about!!

[realfire]

rep. & dem. does not matter hillary can not do anything, the conservatives

control the house and senate & have for a long, long time

LBJ was no real dem. ,today he would be a conservative rep., it about killed him

to sign the civil rights act of 64, he knew that was the end in the south for most

dem., conservatives have controlled the house & senate forever .

my point is the social cons in the south with their low paying jobs will consider

social issues more important so the cons will continue to control so what is the

point of voting for president till the hayseeds see the light or die off

I liked Mccain but now he's going for the jesus money with falwel

I went on that kos site, didn't like most of it but agree the idiot from

missouri jim talent need not win the senate, but he probably will, he considers

stemcell research with experiments like what the nazi's done during ww2

[realfire]

fuck everyone in washington they all suck not one good one in the bunch!! i forgot to mention before, our immigration problem wait until canada gets our overflow you guys will be fucked!@! i know for a fact our country will make some backdoor fucking deal with canada to take some of them in when there is no more room here!! and money talks people!! you do not want our immigration problems believe me!! live close to them you find out quick what i am talking about!!

LOL. I try to stay away from this topic, even though I agree, a lot of latinos on

forums you just pissed a bunch off ROTFLMAO

[gatekeeper5348]

i am not from the south and i don't wave the rebel flag, ok but when cockroaches are running up my power lines from 7 houses away, you would be pissed off about the immigrants also!! fuck em, if their country sucks so bad then ask america for money i'm sure we'll hand it over to them!! don't run across the boarder and expect every handout our country has to offer! just wait you canadians are in for some problems in the future!!

[realfire]

McCain may be a war hero - anyone who survived years in a Vietnamese prison has a piece of my respect, for certain - but that doesn't necessarily qualify him for President. I won't vote for him, but that's not to say in any way that I don't consider him a fine person.

JT's a fine guy, too, but I ain't voting for him, either...:p
I honestly don't know who I'd pick, from either party, in 2008. I'm not that hyped on any of them. GWB sure wouldn't be my pick, if he were eligible for a third term. In fact, I'm pretty sick of politics, period. In my mind, it's little more than a necessary evil - and that's a shame.
If you think Capitol Hill is corrupt, you should visit my city. The folks running this place are so stinking crooked they have to screw their boots on every morning. :eek:

I think the jesus money will go to george the racist allen, the social cons will

love him, hillary has no chance rednecks will never vote for her, could you see

her showing up @ a neckcar race, don't think it matters who wins as long as the

social cons control in both parties, nothing I care about will get done

[Satan]

LoL....great read...but one simple truth is being left out.....No attack's in the US for 5 year's...and it's way to cold for an Mexican up here in the great white north...Trust me on that....- 40 * C...and they shut down...or leave...LoL

[JT]

LoL....great read...but one simple truth is being left out.....No attack's in the US for 5 year's...and it's way to cold for an Mexican up here in the great white north...Trust me on that....- 40 * C...and they shut down...or leave...LoL

Yep, it froze here last night. Maybe that's why I don't worry about it much. I worry much more what our, as Bill Maher said it, "our rodeo clown" president and his misfit crew do.

[btester1]

This mess is getting worse and worse.

Your electronic voting machines will decide everything for you. It's so easy.

[JT]

Please wage your complaint with Dibold....at least they put the word 'bold' when they named their company. Break it down. 'Diabold'. Change the a with an e, and you get "Die" and "Bold". Coincidence this company and it machines are made in Texas?

[JT]

:D Time for Twostep to jump in I hope....as well as any Texan for that matter:cool:

[Bandit5906]

A thread with the mention of Bill Maher = a thread of moonbats

[rosscraig]

Has any of you guys listened to the latest recording by Neil Young? Great stuff, hear and view some samples:

www.neilyoung.com

CSNY are on tour now promoting this.

[JT]

Niel Young might be the only guy out there more paranoid than me. He actually sleeps in a armor plated sunken 'bedroom' in his tour bus. I guess two attempts on his life must have made an impression.....great man, great music, and he fights for good causes. He's a little weird, but pretty damn cool over all. I live for the Niel Young/Pearl Jam shows. Getting a little grey to hit the mosh pit, but I still make it to the show.:D

[JT]

A thread with the mention of Bill Maher = a thread of moonbats

So how's FOX news treatn' ya these days:eek: Just ribbing ya a bit, don't take me too seriously please....

[rosscraig]

Niel Young might be the only guy out there more paranoid than me. He actually sleeps in a armor plated sunken 'bedroom' in his tour bus. I guess two attempts on his life must have made an impression.....great man, great music, and he fights for good causes. He's a little weird, but pretty damn cool over all. I live for the Niel Young/Pearl Jam shows. Getting a little grey to hit the mosh pit, but I still make it to the show.:D

What are you talking about, Neil hadn't had any attempts on his life! I have never been in his bus so I can't say anything about armor plated bedroom, I will have to ask the folks at the rusted highway.

By the way it is spelled Neil and not Niel.