IntegratorX1 Cards

[gap212]

Is there a how to for IntegratorX1 Cards (http://dssftp.com/xcart/product.php?productid=76)...how can i locate that chip on DP 311. Can someone point me....I have two 311 sitting with no use and i like to play around. Milli please point me to right direction...So this card works like regular 102 card than how could i program it when key changes can I take it out every time?

[mili]

You heat the chips with a heat gun from BELOW the board then lift them (not with your fingers). You then insert onto the Integrator and heat the pins from the other side with a solder iron. I will do a how to shortly (where is my fucking heat gun???)
Anyway the boards are NICE quality, it is not your average garage handjob.

mili

[gap212]

I have degree in Electical ENg. and i can sold. anything to everything. Please come with the how for it...thnx.

[Rax]

I have degree in Electical ENg. and i can sold. anything to everything. Please come with the how for it...thnx.


Wow !!! why do you need a how too? Just curious:)

[gap212]

why do u go to school for....u can have it at home too?

[Rax]

I'm a engineer... I design foundations... I figured that your electrical engineer you can design boards and such... even do your own how too

[Rax]

why do u go to school for....u can have it at home too?

Maybe you didnt go to a ABET certified school:confused:

[MarvinGardens]

I can attest that there is absolutely no training or instruction in the art of soldering given in any electrical engineering curriculum.

If fact, many technicians do not know how to unsolder a surface mounted chip. It is usually the women on the assembly line who know how to do it.

[Top10]

I can attest that there is absolutely no training or instruction in the art of soldering given in any electrical engineering curriculum.

If fact, many technicians do not know how to unsolder a surface mounted chip. It is usually the women on the assembly line who know how to do it.


Sexist ;) ;) ;)

O.K..........I am not a tech or engineer!!! I need a " how to". :D :D :eek:

[smilingjack]

You heat the chips with a heat gun from BELOW the board then lift them (not with your fingers). You then insert onto the Integrator and heat the pins from the other side with a solder iron.

heat it with at heat gun, lift in out with a tweezers. put in in the socket (it only goes on way) and solder it form the bottom with a soldering gun.

All mili sell here can be put together by a 12 year old.

Unfortunately many college gradated can not don't with out picture by picture descriptions and a lot of help by the MODS

[Top10]

Can someone please help me out with some information in regards to the unlock code for this script, I wrote this script to my card and now the card is locked? I knew I was looking for trouble putting a script on a card with very little info in reference to the script.

Dude, you are in the wrong thread or I'm Fu@!ked! :p

[Rax]

LOL @ ted

[Top10]

What heat are you setting the heat gun at? And for how long at a time?

@$#$@@$#@#$%......this part was added by SJACK(ASS), now whose smilling!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Rax]

I can attest that there is absolutely no training or instruction in the art of soldering given in any electrical engineering curriculum.

If fact, many technicians do not know how to unsolder a surface mounted chip. It is usually the women on the assembly line who know how to do it.

And here I thought every one knew how to solder? my bad

[badger6]

Wow !!! why do you need a how too? Just curious:)

utt oh, here we go. Lol

[Rax]

Hey wait a min..... Circuits class has soldering... I know all electrical engineering classes have to do that...

[smokeyjoe44]

ive got to get me one of those cards. just what i need since i screwed a 311 trying to mod it. damn little resistors, smaller than a fooking seed tick!

[gap212]

You heat the chips with a heat gun from BELOW the board then lift them (not with your fingers). You then insert onto the Integrator and heat the pins from the other side with a solder iron.

heat it with at heat gun, lift in out with a tweezers. put in in the socket (it only goes on way) and solder it form the bottom with a soldering gun.

All mili sell here can be put together by a 12 year old.

Unfortunately many college gradated can not don't with out picture by picture descriptions and a lot of help by the MODS

Sjack,
We still need passive that Milli sells after soldering integrator X1 card with chip right...

[smilingjack]

You get the card

You have to get the chip yourselves

If it installed it acts a a 102 card

It has to UN-Locked like a 102 card (with white nexes)

you program it with a (ISO) programmer like a 102 card

[skinerd]

What heat are you setting the heat gun at? And for how long at a time?
My heat gun has two setting, on/off

I would then choose the "on" setting....

[fubr]

ted685 the more you post the lower your post count gets. you will be first in history to have minus post count if you do no find the right forum to post.


Can someone please help me out with some information in regards to the unlock code for this script, I wrote this script to my card and now the card is locked? I knew I was looking for trouble putting a script on a card with very little info in reference to the script.

[smilingjack]

I did that skinerd

I meant the hit quote and hit edit and by the time I discovered it it was took late to fix

LOL I sorry dude

[mili]

Try off setting first to be safe. If after 30 minutes you see no change then switch on.

mili

[gap212]

You get the card

You have to get the chip yourselves

If it installed it acts a a 102 card

It has to UN-Locked like a 102 card (with white nexes)

you program it with a (ISO) programmer like a 102 card


Sjack,
Thanks for the info...i meant that if you have this integrator but u still need passive interface card where you insert this card right correct me if i'm wrong. Cuz 311 is cardless receiver

[Top10]

I did that skinerd

I meant the hit quote and hit edit and by the time I discovered it it was took late to fix

LOL I sorry dude
Yeah I know, my post did not look the same.....on/off my ass!!!! :eek: :eek: :(....unfortunately my SM station has a variable heat source.

Though I could get some real helpful info. here, instead my post got fu6%ked with ;) & I still don't have a helpful answer.

What would be a good heat setting & heat the chip for how long?

[Darkbob]

Mili's web site says...

"IntegratorX1 card to embed your ROM102 chips that you removed from DP311 or DP811 recievers. Once you insert the chips into this interface card it will turn it into a ROM102 card for all intents and purposes. You insert the chip into the holder, heat the solder points from the other side and you got yourself a ROM102 card."

Seems to me this procedure may void the warranty on your DP311... and DESTROY it!

Why would you destroy a DP311 just to get a Rom 102?

--DB

[erratic]

Try off setting first to be safe. If after 30 minutes you see no change then switch on.
mili

LOL!!!!! I would try for a little longer maybe... perhaps an hour. Then change the switch to on.

[erratic]

Mili's web site says...

"IntegratorX1 card to embed your ROM102 chips that you removed from DP311 or DP811 recievers. Once you insert the chips into this interface card it will turn it into a ROM102 card for all intents and purposes. You insert the chip into the holder, heat the solder points from the other side and you got yourself a ROM102 card."

Seems to me this procedure may void the warranty on your DP311... and DESTROY it!

Why would you destroy a DP311 just to get a Rom 102?

--DB

People who have virgin 311's can't do anything with them, unless they want to sub. So yank out the 102 chip.

[smokeyjoe44]

Mili's web site says...

"IntegratorX1 card to embed your ROM102 chips that you removed from DP311 or DP811 recievers. Once you insert the chips into this interface card it will turn it into a ROM102 card for all intents and purposes. You insert the chip into the holder, heat the solder points from the other side and you got yourself a ROM102 card."

Seems to me this procedure may void the warranty on your DP311... and DESTROY it!

Why would you destroy a DP311 just to get a Rom 102?

--DB
ive DESTROYED mine already by melting half the motherboard with that freakin heat gun!!!
No i need a hammer and chisel to get that DAMNED chip out.

[smilingjack]

Yeah I know, my post did not look the same.....on/off my ass!!!! :eek: :eek: :(....unfortunately my SM station has a variable heat source.

Though I could get some real helpful info. here, instead my post got fu6%ked with ;) & I still don't have a helpful answer.

What would be a good heat setting & heat the chip for how long?


Sorry,
Most of use have a heat gun witout virible settings off/on
most melting point or melting range below 450 °C (840 °F)

[smilingjack]

DP311 or DP811 recievers. are chep bucase the are not used for teting only to sub to with 103 going for $ 259

passive interface card no one you have the ship out its


If it installed it acts a a 102 card

It has to UN-Locked like a 102 card (with white nexes)

you program it with a (ISO) programmer like a 102 card

[Top10]

O.K. now I get it!!!! I thought it could be done and then re-used for same receiver...my bad.

Just to confirm, the board will be toast when the chip is removed? Don't answer that! I am new to the cardless receiver game. It's a good thing I bought both boards from M's store :D:D :confused: :D

[lightning0009]

For the 311's or 811's or 322's or 522's or 625's you take out the chip, mount it on the board, unlock it and then wire up the cardslot in it's receiver you took it out of to use if you want. I use a little butane torch and heat the chip from the top and it pops off without hurting or melting anything else. A neat trick is to take a thin wire (30 guage) and wrap it around the cam chip and then heat up the chip (it just takes about 4 seconds) till it comes loose and pull it away with the wire. You can get the butane torches at Rat shack for $20.

[Top10]

For the 311's or 811's or 322's or 522's or 625's you take out the chip, mount it on the board, unlock it and then wire up the cardslot in it's receiver you took it out of to use if you want. I use a little butane torch and heat the chip from the top and it pops off without hurting or melting anything else. A neat trick is to take a thin wire (30 guage) and wrap it around the cam chip and then heat up the chip (it just takes about 4 seconds) till it comes loose and pull it away with the wire. You can get the butane torches at Rat shack for $20.


Thanks bud...........finally a helpful answer!!!!! Cheers lighting0009.

[Snowman]

:) One thing I would like to mention is "Make sure you kno what Rev it is before you do this. " Go into set-up and go to INfo screen to find out. I have a Rom 102 Rev 287 and it can not be unlocked yet. No need to destroy the box if it can't be unlocked.

[labrat]

What is the lowest REV # for the 311 that can be glitched? Is it REV 108 or lower like the Rom 102 plastic?

[Me777]

What is the lowest REV # for the 311 that can be glitched? Is it REV 108 or lower like the Rom 102 plastic?

All i know is bell not so much dish but i have 4100's and they can be unlocked all the way up 2 rev 2c4 which is the equivenlent for rev 244 jus like regular 102's so id imagine that dish would be what ever the equivelent of rev 108 is

[mtmt1us]

For the 311's or 811's or 322's or 522's or 625's you take out the chip, mount it on the board, unlock it and then wire up the cardslot in it's receiver you took it out of to use if you want. I use a little butane torch and heat the chip from the top and it pops off without hurting or melting anything else.
Do you actually heat the chip from the top?? Seems that the heat would destroy the chip.

[smilingjack]

Telling these guys to butane torch is like to solder,
out come the 500 W Weller.
The chips are very sensitive to heat and can be destroyed be heat.
.

[liftedz71]

It is suppose to be no higher than rev286 that can be unlocked for the 311's. I was able to unlock a rev285, but it took me a while.

[MarvinGardens]

I would then choose the "on" setting....

ROFL, caught my breath and then ROFL again.

[lightning0009]

Yes I heat the chip from the top. I have done a bunch this way and it hasn't hurt any of them. You can do it by heating up the bottom of the motherboard also, but you really then have to get the whole board real hot and you are more likely to destroy the receiver and if you want to use the receiver? The key is to only heat it up enough to get the chip off. While heating it up from ontop of the chip with the little butane torch you move the torch in a circular motion around the top of the chip for about 4 seconds and the chip will pop up a little when it comes loose. I am not saying this is the only way to do it. I am not saying it's the best way. I am saying it's the way I do it. I usually turn the butane torch down to as low as it will go also.

You can also have someone hold the motherboard upside down and heat the chip on the topside with a lighter till it falls off.

Also the butane torch works good for heating the motherboard up on the bottom side to get the chip off from the top. Probably more precise control for the heat than a big old heat gun. Last time I bought a cheapo heat gun it was $20 at Harbor Freight, same as a butane torch at Rat Shack.


I've also just cut the chip out of the receiver, leaving it on the motherboard, with tin snips and wired it up to a bootloader that way, and that's pretty easy also.

[ak7419]

Hi,
Please tell me what chip on 311 should I pull from the board ?
it seems there are 2 chips that will fit into integrator.

Thank you.

[skinerd]

I have re-moved several chips from a 311 board, using nothing more than my kitchen stove. It is not the heat gun or butane soldering iron that loosens the chips ...it is HEAT that does the job, reguardless where the heat comes from..use your imagination.

[ak7419]

http://www.megapolisnews.com/chips.jpg

I removed both chips with heat station clean & easy. But my question is "WHICH ONE OF 2 CHIPS from 311 board is ROM 102 chip ? (picture is attached)"

[skinerd]

#2......, note the 00 7033 1386 06 cam id.....

#1 is a M58L flash memory chip...

[ak7419]

#2......, note the 00 7033 1386 06 cam id.....

#1 is a M58L flash memory chip...

THANK YOU !

Last question Can it be looped just like regular card or it's more stable ?

[smilingjack]

Take it outside and after the Hot Dogs and Hamburgs are done.....
Place on on the grill and pop the chips off......
hahahah

[CYCO]

Hot air pencil works great.
xxxx://xxx.usbmicro.com/odn/documents/ACC430664DD26DDE5986574AAA62775FDFF29EA1.html

[MarvinGardens]

CYCO,

We are all waiting for you to post more info about the letter you received from Dish.

[Me777]

THANK YOU !

Last question Can it be looped just like regular card or it's more stable ?

Its The Exact same as a 102 so same odds of looping

[rg6a]

I would then choose the "on" setting....

........ON definately works better! ;-) ;-)


I can't believe that so many neophytes are risking their IRDs by attempting to learn how to solder on them (I purchased my first Weller temperature controlled soldering station in '82, damn thing paid for University.....was putting together Apple ][ clones back then)!

Guys, check out the yellow pages...look for computer repair/monitor repair/tv repair shops. Call and ask do you do component level repairs? If yes, then ask 'surface mount?' and if it's a YES........take your IRD there and perhaps for $25 it will be done.

Even if they charge $45, what's your DEAD IRD worth now??? As the old saying goes 'pennywise and pound foolish'! :-(

[bjw934]

what the f---k are you talking about marv?

[Top10]

........ON definately works better! ;-) ;-)


I can't believe that so many neophytes are risking their IRDs by attempting to learn how to solder on them (I purchased my first Weller temperature controlled soldering station in '82, damn thing paid for University.....was putting together Apple ][ clones back then)!

Guys, check out the yellow pages...look for computer repair/monitor repair/tv repair shops. Call and ask do you do component level repairs? If yes, then ask 'surface mount?' and if it's a YES........take your IRD there and perhaps for $25 it will be done.

Even if they charge $45, what's your DEAD IRD worth now??? As the old saying goes 'pennywise and pound foolish'! :-(


I guess we need to put a few more "techs" through school..........I'll give mine a shot, for the fun of it!:D:D:D

[ak7419]

IS it all about taking chip from the board ? :eek:

[brad22773]

Just ordered 2 of these boards what is the shipping time on them... Ordered them this past Saturday and didnt know what to expect when they arrived....signature or just stuck in the mailbox waiting for me....cant wait to get them :D :D

[mili]

Well the manufacturer just informed me today that they won't ship until the 22nd so I am sorry.

mili

[vmod32]

I have degree in Electical ENg. and i can sold. anything to everything. Please come with the how for it...thnx.

Shit man then why not just make your own board?

[ak7419]

:rolleyes: 311 has 1 Rom102 chip. What about 322 it has dual tuner. Should it have 2 chips inside ?

[brad22773]

Well the manufacturer just informed me today that they won't ship until the 22nd so I am sorry.

mili

Not trying to run your site, but wouldnt it be a good idea to add a note below the IntergratorX1 in the store saying that it will not ship until the 22nd. The way it reads is 924 available and I assumed they were ready to ship.....just my opinion. I can wait another week thats not a problem.

[Top10]

Well the manufacturer just informed me today that they won't ship until the 22nd so I am sorry.

mili


Me too............I ordered 4 last week!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess I'll be waiting, what is the reason for the hold up?

[mili]

There is a note already look in the store. As soon as I heard this I put it there.

Integrator X1 Cards FREE SHIPPING TO THE USA AND CANADA Ships on Aug 22nd.
Our price: $43.00

The reason is that the board place told the guy they won't be ready until the 22nd so your guess is as good as mine.


mili

[pinetop]

dont be upset about prepaying/waiting for these $43 cards fellas..i remember back in the vcipher site days people were sending thousands of dollars off and waiting weeks and longer for their deliveries
but i digress
:)

[ak7419]

I know these chinese. They promise one day, then send 2 weeks later.
Just send as soon as you get them :(

[vmod32]

:rolleyes: 311 has 1 Rom102 chip. What about 322 it has dual tuner. Should it have 2 chips inside ?

They have one chip in the it's a rom 103 BGA rather than a rom 102. Looks like you have some reading to catch up on.

[mili]

Good news, the guy says they are ready and the only thing is they won't have that retaining clip on them. I find that an actual improvement as that clip prevented me from applying equal pressure on the chip and feeling how hot it got while soldering. It also had no strenght so I think having it was a bad idea in the first place.

mili