Dishnetwork help

[scyther27]

Ok, total newb to this.... I have a DP311 reciever and a 102 nagravison.
I dont think they are unlocked, or however this works, sorry for being a total newb but, can someone explain to me how this works, how to hack my dishnet. and how to program it, and wut do i program it wit....do i subscibe to a site, or something... sorry again, but i would really appreciate it if someone would plz explain this to me.:)

Thanks:)

-Scyther27

[smilingjack]

take the chip out of it and throw the rest away
.
and buy a testable receiver to put in in

[smilingjack]

The receiver is not testable

The chip is good though

buy a IRD 310.10 that is the best.

put you chip on the card and put it on the 301.10

any you be watching TV

[scyther27]

huh, u talking bout the card.... i got a rom 102

[smilingjack]

the 311 & 811 have a card built in them
There is no way you can get the IRD # & Box Key numbers you need to test them.
keep the chip form the 311 it is Worth money $100-$200

[scyther27]

so wut am i suppose to do....?
remove the card....and sell them??
buy wut then

[Bandit5906]

Scyther27

There is tons of information here for free: no need to subscribe to a forum. Take a look at the "how too" guide mili has posted. Since you have a ROM102 card (but don't mention the rev #) I would suggest you get:

301.010 DN IRD or
2800 DN IRD

They cost maybe $30.00 at E-Bay or flea markets.

JTAG reader and an ISO programmer from mili's store. There are places that sell these items for less money, but your information is not as secure as it is with mili and we have seen the possible outcome of using a supplier from Canada.

As far as your cardless IRD that you have take the 102 chip out of it as you will be able to program that if you get one of the Integrator cards that mili sells.

You can always sell your ROM102 card and just use the 102chip to watch TV.

Everyone here will be more than happy to help you in your quest.

[smilingjack]

well since you have a 102 put the 311 away till you larn more.

read this it tell you how to use a 102 http://www.bellexpress.vu/rom.html

the pick out a testable IRD and but it with the 102

work on the 311 later

[scyther27]

srry, rev 109

[badger6]

Scyther27

There is tons of information here for free: no need to subscribe to a forum. Take a look at the "how too" guide mili has posted. Since you have a ROM102 card (but don't mention the rev #) I would suggest you get:

301.010 DN IRD or
2800 DN IRD

They cost maybe $30.00 at E-Bay or flea markets.

JTAG reader and an ISO programmer from mili's store. There are places that sell these items for less money, but your information is not as secure as it is with mili and we have seen the possible outcome of using a supplier from Canada.

As far as your cardless IRD that you have take the 102 chip out of it as you will be able to program that if you get one of the Integrator cards that mili sells.

You can always sell your ROM102 card and just use the 102chip to watch TV.

Everyone here will be more than happy to help you in your quest.

Actually, an iso programmer is legal in every way to buy and own, buy it from a computer supply company. A jtag is something you can build from radioshack parts and will help you learn needed things in this hobby.

[Bandit5906]

Rev109 is currently not programmable, but may be later. Hang onto the card and then get someone to remove the 311 chip if it is more than you can do (beyond me to do it confidently). Do as I mentioned.

One thing about the 301.010: make sure if possible it has the JTAG hole in the bottom as there are a few of them out there without it. The 301.010 has a better guide, is faster and has a little better picture than the 2800, BTW.

[Bandit5906]

The ISO programmer may be legal and it is, but it still started all my issues with DTV and why expose yourself to save $10.00. Too much hassel. Be worry free if possible and it is possible.

[scyther27]

I also have a upgraded 3900 reciever, a buddy of mine got me free dishnet for it, but does not work anymore.... uh... revA23...
it has the jtag opening on the bottom, for the jtag, is soldering necessary?

Would the 3900 reciever work?

[badger6]

The ISO programmer may be legal and it is, but it still started all my issues with DTV and why expose yourself to save $10.00. Too much hassel. Be worry free if possible and it is possible.

Thats why you buy it from a computer supply company and not a DSS site.

[badger6]

I got an ISO for $28 + shipping. Thats more than $10 dollars savings.

[scyther27]

can someone plz answer my question above ^^

[scyther27]

Ok, i got an upgraded 3900 reciever(revA23) with a rom 2 card. I believe that its been unlocked, but i still want to learn how to do that. Can anyone explain wut the purpose is to jtag.? I've been reading alot but i can find explainsions on why to do something. thxs

[jmf38]

the jtag is for programming the reciever-not the card
the jtag lets you change boxkeys and IRD#.
the first thing you need to do is hook up a jtag from your 3900 to your computer. then you can program the 3900 but i don't think the rom2 is gonna be around much longer but besides that,you still need the jtag
it's just a cable,you can make one or buy one.
you can always get another card,but the jtag is essential to program the reciever.that's the first step

[scyther27]

ok so #1 get a jtag. uh, if i get a new card can i use it with my 3900?
#2 does it matter wut kinda iso reader it is? cheap?expensive? also is it good to buy it off ebay, or somewhere like that?
#3, do i then need to get a subscribtion? recommend any cheap subscription i can get?

thxs alot :)

[jmf38]

#1-yes
#2-buy from mili, old iso can ruin card-loop it-i have done it
#3-no, you can do it without a subscription-easy

[scyther27]

without a subscription, how would i be able to do this? how do i get channels without a sub.?
also, if i get a new card do i have to reprogram my IRD

thxs :)

Hey jmf38, do u have msn or aim?

oh if i get a new card. do i have to unlock it? it is worth buying the unlocker or just buying an unlocked card?

[Bandit5906]

Thats why you buy it from a computer supply company and not a DSS site.

I did and it mattered not a wit!

[Bandit5906]

ok so #1 get a jtag. uh, if i get a new card can i use it with my 3900?
#2 does it matter wut kinda iso reader it is? cheap?expensive? also is it good to buy it off ebay, or somewhere like that?
#3, do i then need to get a subscribtion? recommend any cheap subscription i can get?

thxs alot :)

Some of the ISO programmers came with a crystal that worked with DTV cards, then there were some that would do both DTV and DN (two crystals w/switch), the ones offered today have a DN crystal (367 mHz).

Stick with mili's stuff, priced fair, good warantee, safe to deal with, after sale help provided by him personally and he offers this forum for free for more help.

Stay away from E-Bay for testing needs, but they can be okay for IRD's, Dishes, Lnbs and such. Be very careful if you want to buy a card from them (don't buy a card from them = too risky).

[scyther27]

where should i buy a card, and is it better to buy an unlocker or just to buy an unlocked card?

[scyther27]

also i am confused between the rom 10X cards and the rom 2,3,etc cards, because most of the sites talk about rom 10x but i have a rom 2 card.

thxs :)

[Bandit5906]

Any card other than a ROM102 (with a rev less than 109) like the ROM10x, etc is a almost dead player. When DN puts the MapCall back in they will all be dead other than the ROM102.

Hopefully some time soon we will see a way to open a ROM102 rev109, and a way to program the SW02/04 cards.

If you can put you card in its IRD and then get the system info to see what the rev is for your card. Be sure to not hook up the cable from the dish to your IRD so that your card does not get updated to rev109.

[Bandit5906]

Ok, i got an upgraded 3900 reciever(revA23) with a rom 2 card. I believe that its been unlocked, but i still want to learn how to do that. Can anyone explain wut the purpose is to jtag.? I've been reading alot but i can find explainsions on why to do something. thxs


The JTAG allows you to communicate with your IRD, just like the ISO/unlocker allows you to communicate with your card.

You will need a JTAG unless your card is married to your IRD. Even if your card is married it is a good idea to get a JTAG for future uses. You don't want to be w/o TV and waiting to read/write to your IRD until your JTAG arrives.

At this point so long as you are involved with hacking DN you need a JTAG and either an ISO or/and an unlocker.