Hearing a lot of chatter about DTV fix

[monkeyluv]

I know that I'm probably out to lunch and until someone in the 'know' comes out and states that this is true it's bullshit... but I've been hearing a lot of people saying that there is a credible hack for DTV, haven't seen it or even heard of how it's possible but a lot of guys I know are saying that it's coming down the pipe... anyone else hear the same?

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[drphibes]

Its always a matter of where you are and who you hear it from.
Its talked about alot on pay sites, mainly because people stupid enough to pay to join will keep paying if they think they are getting good information.
Alot of people that have no clue talk about it, but thats the only way anyone might notice them.
But the people in the know dont talk about it.
But then its been rumored to be "coming soon" for over two years.

[richfield_guy]

Yes DTV has been hacked. A man selling the device to hack with was caught. He sold the unit for $800,000. Like I said though he was caught. So what does this mean? Who knows until we actually see something I am not falling for anything.

[xprezz]

Yes DTV has been hacked. A man selling the device to hack with was caught. He sold the unit for $800,000. Like I said though he was caught. So what does this mean? Who knows until we actually see something I am not falling for anything.

That was over two years ago that the man was caught story was going around . I thought it was just a mith

In the story I heard he meet people in Mexico (FBI) showed them how it worked . Came back to the states to get the sorce code and on his way back was arested at the airport and is now doing 10yrs.

[vmod32]

There is always talk about a DTV fix, and yet no one ever sees it. It's bull, no point in starting more useless threads on the subject matter, nothing ever comes of them. Just a bunch of useless opions and zero creditable facts.

[junkinthetrunk]

http://md.hudora.de/blog/guids/14/02/1421518121260880.html

Here is what happened with this fbi mexico thing

[cojones]

Those were just loaders for the hu cards mik 3s nothing for p4s.

[xprezz]

Those were just loaders for the hu cards mik 3s nothing for p4s.

Read this ! It looks as if it was the p4 fix . Replace xx with tt.

hxxp:///www.scramblingnews.com/blog.htm

[drphibes]

You got two different stories going together.
That article about Steven Woida has been bouncing around alot but the information seems fishy. The original article appeared in a Florida newspaper. A few days later the same article appeared with the addition of the statement about the near hack but the timing would match HU hack stuff. I saw it on many news service sites, identical with different authors, kinda fishy.
The more recent $800k info was pretty much tied to the HU hack but the numbers dont seem right. At the time, the hack was being marketed for about $80k, not $800k.
The bigger problem is you have articles for different two sources for the HU hack and there was only one source.
I wonder if the Woida stuff was all about establishing an identity for someone to allow them to take down others, something Customs did during the H days.

[cejarret]

Hey, Jimmy Hoffa is fine and living with my cousin in Nebraska.
And as soon as Steven Woida gets out, he is going to sell his P4 fix to my other cousin who runs a Yard Sale at a Trailer Park in Jersey:)

[maxheadroom]

if there is a fix then I'm sure who ever has it is not sharing right now because there is always dish testing and if dave does not know he won't spend $$$ to mess with the fix. At some point all things will become public and it will be posted.

If it is just rumours then so what except lets not repeat the samething over and over again because there is no point if you do not have a fix to offer.

[WyldCherry]

there was a Dave fix and it is a handful of peeps that have it but it involves removing a chip from certain IRD's and programming the chip with a Chip Master.and those puppies aren't cheap and as far as I know they aren't that easy to come by.But for a public fix none is out .everything was open except PPV right now it went back down.I don't see a full blown fix due to Dave having enough time to keep it that way

[drphibes]

LOL, removing a chip and reprogramming it!
That bs keeps going around because people just dont have a clue that dtv isnt dish. and the pay sites keep making money off goons that think it will leak there.
On dish its easy to do since the chip in the 301 box emulates the card, pop the chip, put it on a card and you have tv on whatever dish box you put it in.

The dtv system is simple, the ird rom and eeprom were dumped and mapped during F card days. basically all that happens is that the sat sends it a packet, the cpu reads the header, strips it and sends the rest to the card. the card decodes the packet , calculates the video seed and sends it back to the box where it is used to decode the video during the mpeg2 decompress. The box never touches the packet, cant decode it, and never could ( read the dtv patents if you want to confirm that), it has no capability to calculate the video seed at all.
If it could decode the video seed, there would never be a ppv limitation. ppv, much like all the channel tiers, is limited inside the card. the packet from the sat tells the card what channel its on, the box doesnt control that either. the box tunes to the channel when requested, but the next VA packet tells the card what channel its on and the card decides whether to calculate the video seed after it checks the user area on the card to determine if that channel is allowed.
I know of a scam that was running for a short time in Toronto where users brought their box in for mod, all the guy did was sub it for $500 and told them he had hacked the box. But he stopped that a few months ago when one of his idiot customers told a friend that wasnt retarded what he had done.
Its real easy to go through the schematic on an RCA box and show that there are only two chips on it that are programmed, the rom and eeprom. the rest of the chips are standard off the shelf items used it lots of boxes. But as I said, the rom and eeprom were dumped years ago and there aint nothin there.

[parishilton]

but how can i still have a box that has NO card in it yet still gets all the channels i pay for? its one of 5 boxes. yes its been rebooted. it was even unplugged for months, got a standard msg stating call extension xxx (don't remember off the top of my head). i called DTV and told them the reciever wasnt working and they refreshed it, and sure enough it still works with NO card in it.

[Rax]

but how can i still have a box that has NO card in it yet still gets all the channels i pay for? its one of 5 boxes. yes its been rebooted. it was even unplugged for months, got a standard msg stating call extension xxx (don't remember off the top of my head). i called DTV and told them the reciever wasnt working and they refreshed it, and sure enough it still works with NO card in it.


I call BS:eek:

[exHUtester]

Know first hand there is no hack yet! Howeversome here are right and others are not.packets have been recieved on some levels. Although 80 percent of cards have been fried, but at 10 for a buck on ebay its worth testing. I and many others from th H and HU days have beentesting other areas and truly believe the hack is not in the card at all, when you break down and decipher the chips and all routing, the only thing changed is the card, when they swapped it out, the true hack is in fact the IRD, and how it percieves the info, that it decodes the message. Is there a hack close by, yes, but close is a week a month a year who knows. But It is possible, simple mods might be in order but to date its not alll there. All i can say is keep your equimp and cards cause eventually it will happen

[brjak]

I.ve seen it..2 issues, stabillity, and risk to reward...the money to be made is not worth the hassle....also stabillity is a bit of an issue....

[Matisse]

Tomico supposedly confirmed the chip removal.programming thing for 5th generation receivers just a week ago or so...420/430re's....stated the developers didnt know how to make money off it cause when dave got hold of a programmed one,they would knock it right down again....what would you do then....send your receiver back off to have the chip repulled,resoldered and sent back?
i think not!

and as far as ppv not being open..is it me or does ppv just plain suck anyway?

once you take the porn quotient and mma fights....what else is there that you wont be seeing soon enough on a premium like hbo???

[JT]

Tomico supposedly confirmed the chip removal.programming thing for 5th generation receivers just a week ago or so...

Must have been the day before he was served his Anton Pillar papers. Tomico was popped a couple weeks ago along with some others.

[WyldCherry]

you positive that he got popped JT?

[JT]

As positive as I can be. I read a skyreport news article that said Tomico was busted. Course, I read it online and it was posted by another member. I didn't read it right off the front page at skyreport. You can go to skyreport and do a search yourself if you want to double check.

[WyldCherry]

already read that.also read on Satscams that it was BS So don't know.all i know says that Tomico Sats.com was hit but just came from there..just thought maybe you heard something else