View Full Version : Is Romcode really worth it??
benleo
10-14-2006, 06:40 AM
I am starting a new thread to avoid hyjacking the thread I originally posted this in.
Quote:
Originally Posted by adrelnjunky
first clean card in romcode, then switch to nagramaster 3.8.1 then back to romcode to program...hope this helps....
It worked, but that still does not explain why I only had to do that for one card and not the others. I used to test Romcode and the Freeware. Then I decided to use Romcode exclusively.
The purpose of Romcode was supposed to be " ease of use, " " private blocker ," full autoroll," etc. Romcode has become so popular that I really wonder if our " private blocker " is all that private. The " ease of use " factor is greatly diminished when we have to use an outside program to get it running properly.
I hear that Penga already has an allegedly safe full autoroll blocker up and running. If that is true, why don't the Romcode coders have full autoroll for us? I hope it is because they are taking their time to triple check the safety factor of having full autoroll at this time.
Am I the only one who is having second thoughts about spending the extra money for Romcode? I know it's not much money, but still.........I wonder if we really are getting what we paid for
Sulten
10-14-2006, 06:47 AM
Depends on how you look at it, as Milli once said Romcode is for easy use, few clicks and the software does all the work, then if you want a email sent to you when the new file comes out and no searching then romcode is for you.
im sure romcode will get something going but Romcode is if you want everything delivered to you and easy. if you want save your money then dont spend the extra cash and then wait for the fix and do searching on the fix.
so bottom line which do you want? serving like hand and foot or waiting and searching.
I agree with benlo, it seems like the just a few clicks with romcode is beginning to be like a 10 step program now. If it was just clean and program, i can take that.
jayman14
10-14-2006, 07:01 AM
What about length of time the file lasts? Does it last longer than freeware or does it go down at every Revision change?
wait a few more weeks or months, Might even get tougher yet...
hope not but it sure does look like it. Cant get much erasier than romcode even with the added steps
delco
10-14-2006, 07:21 AM
i have lost 2 cards in the last week and 3 just will not show video, my stat is at user now when last week i was dealer.
1, Less people using it than freeware = smaller target
2, Ease of use and with 4.22 all you need to do is click Program Card. It would have retrieved and inserted the current keys, then removed the previous blocker and reprogrammed the card in one step.
3, Since reputation and money is at stake the coders will not experiment nor risk your card no matter what. You use freeware and there is noone to bitch to and noone to lose anything if your card gets fucked
4, With freeware you spend time searching for new keys new blockers add this patch that patch, sometimes in a set sequence and mess with passwords and edits. If you are an expert who loves to tinker and you ever make a mistake, that is fine. I am not a newbie but I do not want waht to generate a DT08 or session key for every receiver I do, don't want to remember what works now and which patch goes where. Call me lazy.
mili
As far as the no Video issue which is rather rare read my sticky post.
milli
Mili:
Well, as you know, I'm the KING of poblems. And of course, I have the video problem issue. I hope the ROM Code experts figure out EXACTLY what the oddity is in the program. I for one, am afraid I'll fuck up my cards with all the minipulation.
Well, I'm sure they'll figure it out. In the meantime, Back to the old drawing board for me till things stabilize.
Doc
It's just an opinion, so take it as only that.....I think romcode is over priced, but it is great stuff especially if your a newbie to the game. Even now, romcode is literally just a couple clicks to do everything in terms of programming your rom. (you still need to start out with an unlocked card; rom102 or rom103) You will need to follow the set up directions exactly, but once that's done, there's really nothing to it. Whether the romcode blocker is better than the public ones, we don't know yet. I'd guess it is, but since there has been no official EMM targeting blockers yet, we can't say for sure. Like Mili said, even if they do write an EMM targeting blockers, it's probably going to be for one of the public versions since so many more folks are running them. There is a good chance romcode will turn out to be a better blocker. Time will tell. Either way, romcode is as easy as it gets. Even those of us that can do most of this ourselves appreciate the simplicity of romcode. If your a newbie, I say go with romcode for a few months while you learn to do it yourself.
....and, if you do the math, one single month of the premium package still costs more than six months of romcode.....so no matter what, if it works for a month you've made your money back.
scort
10-14-2006, 08:48 PM
I haven't had any problems with RC from the start. Yes, it is easy, but the real reason that I keep with it is because they just don't have their minds on the future file fix, but they also have all the fixes in place from the past. So it's not just fix this latest problem and leave Swiss cheese holes to creep in from the past. Off course I want it to roll like it always has and I'm sure they could release a quick fix other then a key grabber if they were looking at this in a shortsighted way. They are trying to protect our cards which at this point are more valuable than most receivers. In my book they are a bargain....
scort
Mine finally works. As usual, I just have the most complex issues
Doc
The software has been updated to 4.23, click Live Update.
mili
ToUgHsPoT
10-15-2006, 02:25 PM
Is there a way to adjust the expiration dates when using ROMCODE??
Bandit5906
10-15-2006, 06:34 PM
I am starting a new thread to avoid hyjacking the thread I originally posted this in.
Quote:
Originally Posted by adrelnjunky
first clean card in romcode, then switch to nagramaster 3.8.1 then back to romcode to program...hope this helps....
It worked, but that still does not explain why I only had to do that for one card and not the others. I used to test Romcode and the Freeware. Then I decided to use Romcode exclusively.
The purpose of Romcode was supposed to be " ease of use, " " private blocker ," full autoroll," etc. Romcode has become so popular that I really wonder if our " private blocker " is all that private. The " ease of use " factor is greatly diminished when we have to use an outside program to get it running properly.
I hear that Penga already has an allegedly safe full autoroll blocker up and running. If that is true, why don't the Romcode coders have full autoroll for us? I hope it is because they are taking their time to triple check the safety factor of having full autoroll at this time.
Am I the only one who is having second thoughts about spending the extra money for Romcode? I know it's not much money, but still.........I wonder if we really are getting what we paid for
Download 4.22 and then take the update! That way all you have to do is re-program the card when the keys roll.
$12.00 a month is not much, IMHO!
One thing though, I sure wish the RomCode guys could get my time zone right. I have to manually update the .ini file to get it correct.
Hi JT. I am in Pacific zone. In the settings section, I pick E4 which is Mountain STD / Pacific DST. when we roll back to PST, Then I will pick E0.
Is that the issue you are having? You can always set it to what you need on the CARD BIN, and pick "Don't Change" in romcode. That should work for you.
It's a pain to have them overwrite the files that we have to customize to get our stuff right isn't it?
Hi JT. I am in Pacific zone. In the settings section, I pick E4 which is Mountain STD / Pacific DST. when we roll back to PST, Then I will pick E0.
Is that the issue you are having? You can always set it to what you need on the CARD BIN, and pick "Don't Change" in romcode. That should work for you.
It's a pain to have them overwrite the files that we have to customize to get our stuff right isn't it?
Go with E1, always, and it will automatically adjust itself when we switch back and forth from daylight savings. :D Try it, you'll like it. Been doing it this way for years. Don't know why it hasn't caught on with most folks. There is a byte of code that will do this for every time zone.
It's a bit of a pain, but at least RomCode is making it pretty easy to make these adjustments ourselves. Still having some issues with the event ID changes though. Trying to figure out why my changes to the AutoPPV file don't seem to take. Doesn't matter much, all I'm missing is some porn......and Sunday is for FOOTBALL!
Always like to read your posts Ohms. It's really nice having you around, and I mean that sincerely and in more ways than one.;) :cool:
cobras1
10-15-2006, 09:02 PM
well iam not a newbie but i am lazy hehehehe and rom coder is the easiest program i have ever used i like it
Satan
10-15-2006, 10:08 PM
I'v never used it...but I can't see how it could get any better than the free ware..?...D\L the full version of N2edit 2.58...it has the one step clean ..and a short cut to Nagramaster 3.8 which will auto write the key's in any saved bin you have...LoL.
Talk simple..
1 open N2edit 2.58
2 unlock card with password
3 do a one step clean
4 open the bin of choich I have one saved ..with blocker.
5 open S\C to nagramaster 3.8
6 hit get dish\bev key's
7 save bin
8 write bin to card
9 watch TV
10 drink beer
11 cuddle with wife...while she does laundry
jaicos
10-16-2006, 01:37 AM
Is there a way to adjust the expiration dates when using ROMCODE??
Yes, just open up the .ini settings file ther you'll see days till tiers expire default is 90, change that number and save.:confused: :rolleyes: :o
Always like to read your posts Ohms. It's really nice having you around, and I mean that sincerely and in more ways than one.;) :cool:
Translation = I LOVE YOU MAN !! :D :) :) :)
LOL I could not help it JT lol you know I am kidding, It is good for you to give kudos but that one made me chuckle a bit.
Bandit5906
10-16-2006, 02:57 AM
Go with E1, always, and it will automatically adjust itself when we switch back and forth from daylight savings. :D Try it, you'll like it. Been doing it this way for years. Don't know why it hasn't caught on with most folks. There is a byte of code that will do this for every time zone.
It's a bit of a pain, but at least RomCode is making it pretty easy to make these adjustments ourselves. Still having some issues with the event ID changes though. Trying to figure out why my changes to the AutoPPV file don't seem to take. Doesn't matter much, all I'm missing is some porn......and Sunday is for FOOTBALL!
!AddPPV 01 001388 0186A0 ;PPV Movies (5000 - 100000)
!AddPPV 02 001388 0186A0 ;PPV Events (5000 - 100000)
Save and enjoy the family channels!
Translation = I LOVE YOU MAN !! :D :) :) :)
LOL I could not help it JT lol you know I am kidding, It is good for you to give kudos but that one made me chuckle a bit.
:D Maybe I should be drinking beer instead of liquor.....:cool: I'm a Captain Morgans man myself. ;-) Isn't that "I love you man" thing a beer commercial?......it should be if it isn't. Ok, it was a little over the top, but I meant it.
benleo
10-17-2006, 03:58 AM
It's just an opinion, so take it as only that.....I think romcode is over priced, but it is great stuff especially if your a newbie to the game. Even now, romcode is literally just a couple clicks to do everything in terms of programming your rom. (you still need to start out with an unlocked card; rom102 or rom103) You will need to follow the set up directions exactly, but once that's done, there's really nothing to it. Whether the romcode blocker is better than the public ones, we don't know yet. I'd guess it is, but since there has been no official EMM targeting blockers yet, we can't say for sure. Like Mili said, even if they do write an EMM targeting blockers, it's probably going to be for one of the public versions since so many more folks are running them. There is a good chance romcode will turn out to be a better blocker. Time will tell. Either way, romcode is as easy as it gets. Even those of us that can do most of this ourselves appreciate the simplicity of romcode. If your a newbie, I say go with romcode for a few months while you learn to do it yourself.
....and, if you do the math, one single month of the premium package still costs more than six months of romcode.....so no matter what, if it works for a month you've made your money back.
Romcode was running smooth for the 4 months I've had it. They were finally severely tested by Charlie. I would give them a passing grade, but no higher than a C.
I did not mind the first cut and paste of the keys. I did get pissed off at the " black screen " problem. Had I not been familiar with other (freeware ) programs, I would have been lost. Then we had to manually download the new tier list yesterday. This assumes you found the file over at Satjunction. At first , I manually changed my PPV.txt.
All is well with the latest update to 4.23. The new tiers are there as of today if you click on live update. It's back to an " all in one " program.
At any rate, I do applaud the top level decision to hold off on autoroll until the coders have figured out a way to *safely* put it back in the Romcode program.
I think the only real value to Romcode is that they have a vested interest in making damn sure our cards don't get looped. If they don't protect our cards better than the freeware, nobody will renew their subscription. If they have 10K subscribers at an average of 10 bucks a month, that's a gross of 100K per month. I don't think they want to lose business and/or go out of business, so the Romcode people appear to listen to us when we complain and will most likely do everything possible to protect our cards.
Bandit5906
10-17-2006, 04:04 AM
I guess you are not scoring them on a curve (no competition)?
Even though there have been a couple of glitches recently, they still are the "game" in town!
For whatever it is worth, mili is still the cheapest sub to RC that I know of.
ROTTEN
10-17-2006, 05:36 PM
!AddPPV 01 001388 0186A0 ;PPV Movies (5000 - 100000)
!AddPPV 02 001388 0186A0 ;PPV Events (5000 - 100000)
Save and enjoy the family channels!
why have 2 of the same string?
Soundguy
10-17-2006, 06:42 PM
Mili
One of the CA dealers offers a Lifetime Romcode purchase. Can you offer that as well?
To keep on the thread, I love RC. Easy and safe and with a 301 and a Coolsat at each TV one is always working if not both. CS has not missed a beat since the first Aux and RC has had minimal interruptions.
I think its well worth the money and dont think its overpriced at all and I respect that the coder is looking at all the possible problems before a release.
IMHO its a really nice package.
My problem with lifetime packages is whose lifetime?
What if they close shop in 3 months? WHo is gonna left holding the bag again?
mili
tessa8940
11-10-2006, 03:43 AM
can you use romcode blocker with 811 rga internal card
nebur
11-10-2006, 04:19 AM
My problem with lifetime packages is whose lifetime?
What if they close shop in 3 months? WHo is gonna left holding the bag again?
mili
and if they read the liftime is only for 1000 days
With this four rolls per day BS Romcode desperately needs to come up with a safe autoroll. They've had a month to work on it. Kind of ticked me off, for about an hour yesterday romcode was updating to the wrong keys.
One must remember that just like the days of the Football Card with Direct TV, the days of watching TV are absolutely numbered
Doc
Bandit5906
11-11-2006, 01:37 AM
With this four rolls per day BS Romcode desperately needs to come up with a safe autoroll. They've had a month to work on it. Kind of ticked me off, for about an hour yesterday romcode was updating to the wrong keys.
Never used RomCode to get my keys as they take too long sometimes. There are many good key grabbers out there that work just fine!
Perhaps they heard you though as they did have an update today. Don't know what the update was though?
Never had a problem with RomCode updates. Usually a few seconds for it to get updated KEYS. But different strokes for different folks.
Doc
tessa8940
11-11-2006, 02:09 AM
i need a blocker for an 811 internal. i can get keys. does romcode work (blocker) for an 811?
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