pvr playing tricks

[whitestuff]

assuming that if a pvr erases and flashes 100% w no errors i think my hardware and wiring is all squared away. i used a virgin tsop 063 and made a virgin eeprom with matching builds and erased sa52 of flash 2. problem is when i put in a good 102(tried several) i get 019 nag. but it goes away for a minute or two then comes back for 30 secs or so, etc. only info channels come in. when i try 611 for dish pointing it will not let me in to that menu, the screen kind of goes like a negative. i have flashed about 8 different tsops to this pvr with the same result, and at the bottom of the screen it says express vu. can all of these flashes have been b*v from the start? just wondering where I am screwing up, i think i'm very close to gitting er done.

[Ohms]

Sounds like a corrupt eeprom or a buggy software version. Try creating a new virgin eeprom from another flash and jkeys them both on there. Then see if 6,1,1 works.

Make sure your source tsop flash matches your build config. If you build config is off, then you won't get proper tuner function. Build config does not matter for marrying the HD, but after that, instead of erasing the sectors and updating, try re-flashing with a newer version that has the matching build config. Don't forget to make a virgin eeprom from the one that matches the build config.

What is your build config?

[mopar611]

Your harddrive is probably not married.. Which means your flash is not being
100% erased.. Cant be.. That is why you are having troubles with all those
virgin tsops..

What PVR are you working with??

[whitestuff]

thanks ohms and mopar, this is a 508 pvr, from what i read a 501 tsop will work (508 tsops are kind of hard to come by). my build is DCSD and for my life can't find an exact virgin match anywhere so i've been using any DC** and DC*D i can find and changing the build in FE. when i go to flash and jkeys checks if it's blank it does continue as if it is blank. i thought flashing virgin software married the hard drive, but it sounds like my first problem is finding a closer build. i have looked in the fileshop, here, and evo with no luck getting any closer, some of these files are labeled with statements like "i have flashed this virgin tsop to all my pvr's with no problems". if you guys think it's a build problem say the word and i will keep looking.

[whitestuff]

i may try taking my saved original dump and change the box keys, etc and flash again.

[Dave411]

Probably a good idea. You can use most any virgin firmware to marry the HDD. It`s probably already married if you dont get any HDD errors when you turn the receiver on. Once it is married, then write the firmware that actually matches the build and boot for the receiver back to the receiver. The only catch is the original firmware on a 508 may be using SKs and you may be using the public numbers (DT08). If that is the case, then before you write the original TSOP back, you will need to remove the SKs using the removeSK.fs script in the newer flashedit, then reflash the receiver.

[mopar611]

Ya, its possible your SKs dont match, or you have a DT08 on the card and
then you need to erase the SKs off the image..

[mopar611]

Find a DCXX build with your botstrap, probably 23AB, at P80 for D!sh.. If thats what you have..

Look at your image, does it have a DT08 on it?? If not, its SKs.. That will tell
you what you need to do with your tsop. You will then need to use GenTD_08
to either modity your SKs or remove them..

Mopar

[whitestuff]

sk's, of course. i 've got the .fs for the 013 for sk remove, and i have found the script for the 5xx, just having a hard time getting it into FE. i have put it in the same folder and d+d but can't get it in the FE menu. i will keep looking for a version that already includes it unless i'm just missing a step. thank you for all the good info guys, really preciate it..

[Dave411]

Might check to make sure the file is in fact .fs and not . txt.

[skinerd]

I use winhex to remove the SK's and relocate receiver data, really easy.

Some one previously suggested that relocating data was not nescesary, but I have always found that it is. Remove SKs, and relocate the data so the PRV looks to jkeys as a 501 or 501 "moved bootstrap", either one works fine.

[mopar611]

Ok.. Heres what I want you to do..

Go get P80 like I said with a matching bootstrap..

On up with jkeys and edit the Ird in hex and Boxkeys..

Now go over and click on 501/510 moved Ird and click on it.. (This is
what jkeys uses to tell the flash where to look for the bootstrap)

Now edit your build config to match your..

Now click on CRC.. Should be green..

Save as personnal dump..

Now save virgin eeprom and edit to your build..

Now erase your tsop 3 times.. Both of them.. And SA70..

Now flash your new eeprom..

Now flash number 2 with new tsop..

Now with your receiver plugged in, no sat feed, wait about
1 minute to marry HD to new flash..

Now hook up back to Jkeys.. And erase SA54 3 times..

Now let your receiver update to newest version..

Now, save your updated version..

Now save your card image..

Using Gent08, load both up..

Click on generate new sks..

Now save both.. Card and tsop..

Now apply new image to card..

Now Flash new flash to recevier..

Now both sks should match..

This is my quick version.

Follow this and you will be good to go..

Mopar

[skinerd]

Just editing the build config may not work, not all builds are compatible, simply renaming it won't make it match.

If it is compatible you don't need to rename it as it will work.

Try renaming a DC8A tsop to DFAA and write it to a DFAA box, won't work.....

Write a DFAA tsop to a DFJA box, it works, with out renaming.

There are some hardware differences in the boxes, that is why it won't work.

[mopar611]

I just threw out a quick guide to help him out..

I hope he is smart enough to know that the first two letters
must match..

As far as the rest of the build config goes.. I could never get build
config to work unless all 4 letters matched.. Not sure if the eeprom
required it or not.. But Ill take your word for it...

So to make things easier for myself, I just make everything match.. Thats
just the way I do it..

Mopar

[whitestuff]

thanks for the kick ass how to Mopar, saw a hoe to for gent08 once but yours is a bit less intimidating. however, now that i've got the "508 sk remove" script can't i just apply that to the flash(for use with atmega) and be done? far as the build that is the tricky part, the sticker is DCSD, the one i am working with at the moment is DCKA for lack of much better matches. i will try the script and then gent08 if i have no luck.

[skinerd]

thanks for the kick ass how to Mopar, saw a hoe to for gent08 once but yours is a bit less intimidating. however, now that i've got the "508 sk remove" script can't i just apply that to the flash(for use with atmega) and be done? far as the build that is the tricky part, the sticker is DCSD, the one i am working with at the moment is DCKA for lack of much better matches. i will try the script and then gent08 if i have no luck.

I have never seen a DCSD, but a DCKA(D) prolly won't work, A DCZA(D) might tho.
Possibly a DC3A(D) might.

Just a note, the 4 letter is the eeprom build, ALL tsops end with A.

Eeproms can be C,D J, or V.

[whitestuff]

thanks Skin, the ird currently has the DCKA at P063 and does power up(with listed problems). do you think there other functions i will have problems with if i continue with the same tsop?

[skinerd]

If the flash you write allows the box to pass switch test, then it will prolly be fine.

If it won't pass switch test, then the flash is wrong, as it is sending the wrong info to detection circuits. The PRV will power up even with a wrong flash written.

DCKA is a very early flash version, you can use it to marry the hard drive, but prolly won't pass switch check.

DCKA, DCEA, DCFA, DCWA, DCTA, DCZA, DC3A, DC8A, are the "'DCxx" flashes I have copies of. I don't have a virgin flash of all of those, but I just try one that is close, if it passes switch test, I use it.

I see more DC8A(D) than any others.

[whitestuff]

congratulations to me, finally got er up. i will upload virgin firmware with sk's removed to save anyone else the headache. all i did was load the DCKA @ P079 and virgin eeprom, erased sa54 and streamed, let it update, aquired signal, checkswitched, and bam, pvr functioning and wide open. you guys are the bizzzomb, couldnt've done it w o all your help. a hearty thank you.