enigma 4.1!

[hacker]

EnigmaEdit4.1
-blackout string from EEPROM (i.e. fixes locals remapping).
-New Bev autoroll routine.
-selectable CPU speed (EMM and ECM processing considerably faster).
-fixed Bev channel lagging.
hxxp://enigmacards.com/apps/EnigmaEdit4.1.zip

[hacker]

I will test this now and let you all know how it works

[hacker]

Rolled in 10 seconds and has all my tiers and locals remapped! Great job enigma team!

[alsouthster]

nice testing Hacker
almost makes me want to get an enigma :)

[hacker]

BTW Scherbius recommends to use the 68mhz clock speed

[mili]

It seems the boy got his head outta his ass finally. Now lets see if there is an ECM and how this baby is handling that.

mili

[coolgrin]

I like it so far.Reports from some people of b3v 3100-010 not rolling.Mine did but took over 45 min.So to save confusion just put current keys in manualy first and it will roll the rest.If you want to wait then wait.Looks like Scherbius is going to add a tier edditer to 4.2 to making adding and losing tiers almost idiot proof.There is still issues with loading your own tiers and this should sort those issues out.He has not given a time frame for the next update.But things are looking up Bishop,Exalter and Scherbius were all online at forums at same time helping out.It is nice to actualy feel like i am not an idiot for buying some of these cards now.Virtual99 said 2 words that brought back memories that many either do not know what it means or just do not remember and they were "beta testers"Thats is what we are going through some just don't recognize it.

I have hinted to Scherbius about possable time frame of release of source code if it was still going to be released.I asked if he could give even a not before date or after such and such a date.I did not get a response on that question yet but will let you know when he does.

[ClarkeBelt]

Ah, the source code. I am conflicted about that. As a user, I join many others that are paranoid about the support vanishing in the future. Open source might allow others to keep the card alive if the "Enigma team" disappears.

On the other hand, I do respect the proprietary nature of the product and the software to use it. Scherbius has stated that releasing the source would expose the circuit design and the chips in use to those that would attempt to make knockoffs and damage the only revenue stream for the Enigma designers and sellers. I see that point.

The Enigma has become a factor in the testing game. It has the potential to do many impressive things down the line. Buyers remain totally dependent on one programming source for those potential features to become reality.

[tommyoz]

The public bin they provide has always worked with no problems. Maybe autoroll has been the only issue but that is everywhere. I have decided to stick with testing private info for now. I have gotten my 3100 Bev to work with private info thanks to their support. The 019 error is still an issue though.

I have yet to get Dish private info to work. All I get is black screen but no 019 error. I just have to put some more time into it.

All in all it's just like any testing device still buggy but it does work. I think their task of wanting to cover just about all angles is a tough one.

[tommyoz]

Just to add to my last post. My Bev 3100 private made it through this mornings key change.

Also, I forgot to mention that the channel lagging did improve a little.

[smilingjack]

Scherbius about possible time frame of release of source code if it was still going to be released
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You all get involved in the "source code" and not one you could figure out what to do with it if you had it.
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Not 1 in 10,000 could take a 102 card and make it work with out some MACHO help.
Only 1 to 1000 can make a .bin, change numbers, and do the rest of the stuff.
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So you would like it to go to Dish/BEV,
and the few coders what understand it ?
You will be denying on somebody,
it that way with everything
even card and CEMU the oldest of the two

[mili]

Well I read that thread and Scherebius said he will make some interface or method where third parties can write code for the cards without the underlying code and hardware to be exposed. Will be interesting to see. The way I see it the only peopole desperate and pushing for the source code and what parts are on the cards and the only people who could do ANYTHING with it are those with the know how to COPY the card and wanting to do so desperately as they feel the end of Atmegas and ROM102s are near (because the Enigmas autoroll indeed). You could give me the source code and I would not be able to tell it apart from a chicken soup recipe in Hindu.
The tier thing is indeed a must to address and I think Scherebius is workign on that one now.

mili

[ClarkeBelt]

The way I see it the only peopole desperate and pushing for the source code and what parts are on the cards and the only people who could do ANYTHING with it are those with the know how to COPY the card... I couldn't agree more. Some of the posters at the Enigma site whine about the source code endlessly. Meanwhile, the programmer has been delivering the goods.

[coolgrin]

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You all get involved in the "source code" and not one you could figure out what to do with it if you had it.
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Not 1 in 10,000 could take a 102 card and make it work with out some MACHO help.
Only 1 to 1000 can make a .bin, change numbers, and do the rest of the stuff.
.
So you would like it to go to Dish/BEV,
and the few coders what understand it ?
You will be denying on somebody,
it that way with everything
even card and CEMU the oldest of the two

Maybe you are right maybe you are not but I do know that the source is a big deal in sales of cards and it was promised to be released.Who can and can't work with the source has yet to be determined.To me it is part of the enigmacard package due to the fact it was stated to be released.
I understand your position is to praise the card and boost sales from all your posts preaching how well it worked when in fact at the time of posts it was still a complete lemon.But to put it in perspective if you bought a pizza and with it came a free coke and cheesie bread and when it came to the door you recieved just the pizza I know for a fact you would say"Where is my freaking pop and cheesie bread"Asking for source here is the same principal.
I will tell you I am very happy with the card now for both providers and am enjoying every new release as they come,no problem there.Support at enigmacards has increased 10 fold over the last few weeks.But for anyone to get a little disgruntle about people asking for something that was promised to them last december as part of the package is wrong.It doesent matter if some just want it to play with or look at wipe their butt with it.
To all who have a problem with people like me requesting for a time frame of the release of the source code i suggest you either quit reading/replying to our posts,for that is just as much or more of a waste of time than bashing.And for those who do not care about the source code I have some cards you might be interested in because no source was released for them and they are redundant due to that very fact.Source or no source enigma card is good and only going to get better.but if something ever happens to to coder(s) with the source with out a release the card will end up being redundant too.So for people trying to learn,test and protect their investments by asking for something that was promised are whiners then count me in.And as far as card being cloned because of it well i do not ever seeing that happening but if it did who cares.A price war is always a good thing for retailers.

[ClarkeBelt]

But for anyone to get a little disgruntle about people asking for something that was promised to them last december as part of the package is wrong.It doesent matter if some just want it to play with or look at wipe their butt with it.

To all who have a problem with people like me requesting for a time frame of the release of the source code i suggest you either quit reading/replying to our posts,for that is just as much or more of a waste of time than bashing...A price war is always a good thing for retailers. Coolgrin, we have an honest difference of opinion on this subject, though I can certainly see your point. Let's say Scherbius released the source today and stated he was finished with development. "Let the freeware coders do it!" I have no doubt that would set back development for the Enigma for weeks. I say let the coder do his thing, make his money. Scherbius is highly motivated to make the card work. The card lives or dies on its reputation. If Scherbius were to say he would release the source in early 2008, what would you say to that? Is that keeping the promise? Someday is someday. Or how about if he promised to release the code when sales hit 100,000?

A price war is always a good thing for buyers, not for retailers. Knockoffs simply discourage new products from coming to market.

[Twostep]

My opinion on this sourcecode deal.....while this may not apply to everyone, it applies to a bunch of em. There's a forum at you-know-where that's comprised of ex-Mili and Magician haters...old Magic Card Support folks who have all been banned from DSSFTP at one time or another for starting trouble - who are convinced Magician is the one behind the Enigma. I have no proof of this but they seem to think they do.

Their entire purpose for existing is to bash anything and everything M. If it wasn't the source code deal, it would be something else. I'll have to agree with Smilingjack on this one. 99 percent of those hollering for the code would have absolutely no idea what to do with it. The one percent who do are most likely made up of diehard coders with nothing better to do than tinker, those who would seriously like to mount a cloning operation and the providers themselves, who of course post on these sites on a regular basis, doing what they can go glean information whenever it becomes available.

If Scherbius were smart, he'd simply state 'yes, it was promised...but due to situations that have developed since, it will not be released. We are sorry for the inconvenience'. There'd be some short-term bitching and then that issue would die.

I could care less about the code or the promise, either. I simply want the product to work properly. To quote the pizza/Coke/cheesebread analogy, what good is the bread and the Coke if the pizza tastes like shit?

[smilingjack]

I think if he announce the code is small steps,
the working code,
not the "flash" of the chips or the "chip numbers"
it would do to keep some them quite satisfied.
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let them play around with that, that would keep them busy,
and keep than form making any "clones"
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I glad he was releasing mare up-date, solving one problem at a time, that has keep the less noisy

[dog1]

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Well, huh, you mean to tell me that they are using some/all of my code to support their expensive piece of hardware?

I never made that connection. Weird.

Bishop, I am calling you out bro, why don't you contact me and lets get this thing working right for the ppl that gave you good hard earned money. If your not gonna release the source, at least give it to someone who will continue to support your platform. I know a team that will do that, and for free.

Lexus

[maroz28]

That is a generous offer from Lexus. He is the Atmega Guru! I could honestly say that if Lexus announced that he has the source code, I would buy 20 today! I've been waiting for source to be released but if Lexus and team had it, that is just as good. Thanks for the offer Lexus

[coolgrin]

I could be wrong but I think Lexus was being sarcastic in his post when he said that.Mind you if he did get a hold of it he and the team would give it their best shot.If you read the whole thread where that quote was taken from you might see it was more of an enigma bashing fest than anything.I could be wrong.

[smoody]

What exactly do you need to use the Enigma card. They look a whole lot like the Magic Card. (Loved the magic card, by the way.) Do they work the same way? If I remember correctly (been a while), all you needed with the magic card was a programmer and box keys. Any help would be appreciated.

[dog1]

all you need is a card & a cable & jtag

[Neon]

I have two E-cards running on 4900 mods. & one 13 running on Romcode. Love them all. Don't know about the code thing, to new to the testing. But in the past year in a half years with dish Romcode has been great & now sence December with E-card I'm real happy. You guys hash it out I'll watch tv & continual to learn & test. Thanks to all.

[coolgrin]

all you need is a card & a cable & jtag

You forgot you also need a bag of patience

[smoody]

What kind of cable??

[hacker]

USB cable

[smoody]

Where's the best place to get this usb cable?

[smoody]

I'm in Southeast. How long to get the card. Baseball's comin'. LOL

[Neon]

I see on a other site that there selling E-cards for 119. with shipping Can this be?

[mili]

Nobody is selling them for $119 only scammers.

mili

[smoody]

Hi, I just did a search to find out where to buy this mini usb cable and from the picture they showed, it looks exactly like the usb cable that connects my digital camera to my computer. Does anyone know if this is the same cable?

[dog1]

it may work mine did put not all will

[smilingjack]

I put a load of places were you can get them
It a a sticky post

[coolgrin]

Nobody is selling them for $119 only scammers.

mili

Mili this is the problem you get when you are pretty faithfull in your job and here lots and answer almost every question,you have to bite your own tounge.You scammer lol Just kidding but in all seriousness you realy should delete this post you put in.It does not look good.Any way keep up the good work and thanks for all the help.

coolgrin

[coolgrin]

Hi, I just did a search to find out where to buy this mini usb cable and from the picture they showed, it looks exactly like the usb cable that connects my digital camera to my computer. Does anyone know if this is the same cable?

Try it and see.Install usb drivers provided in the enigmaedit 4.2 download.Plug card in open enigmaedit and click on test card button of you get 3 ok's then yes if you get bad eeprom bad....then you need new cable.
It was discussed here before there are 2 kinds of cables that size.It was said here there is a 4 pin and a 5 pin.(actually its 5 and 6 pin counting outside contact).Any computer store should carry them.Ask for a 6 pin mini usb cable.But pretty sure the one for your camera will be fine