Directv Hack

[nagra101]

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[JT]

There is no hack for Dave at this point. I wouldn't even bother visiting that site.

[rg6a]

There is no hack for Dave at this point. I wouldn't even bother visiting that site.

Probably that swarmy asshole from Montreal, he's been suckering people for years and pops up at least 1X every year.

Easy to spot as he uses technical terms that don't exist (NLZEPT, Neuro Linguistic Zarfon Encoded Programming Technology (tm) has cracked the P4/P5/D1) or something close to that.

Don't get Conned People, they'll take your money and give you either nothing or a $20 atmega. You can't sue since you're attemping to purchase an illegal device and Dave can't do anything either as they aren't selling anything! ;-) ;-)


Beauty of a SCAM!

[ninj]

I just went and had a quick look and scam all the way. If it was really the Direct boys would have been all over them like stink on you know what. Like the old saying goes "If it looks to good to be true ".

[The Lizard King]

I just went and had a quick look and scam all the way. If it was really the Direct boys would have been all over them like stink on you know what. Like the old saying goes "If it looks to good to be true ".
It's a REALLY well-done scam, then!

TLK :cool:

[drphibes]

well done? no.
the site was created april 1 of this year with a one year term.
the addys on the application are obvious fake and the email is a mail.com setup.
the costa rica addy is incorrect
the testimonials are obvious fake since its only been open a week and they laud the football games which arent in season yet.
the description of how the HU cards was loaded is absolute gibberish.
anyone that has paid any attention to P4 knows that brute force will kill the card.
the description of the loader is also incorrect compared to how p4's communicate.
the payment method is western union which is a well known scammer tool.
the site itself looks like a good copy of offshoreP4 from 3 years ago.
So many things that scream "scam"!
it should only fool newbies and the brain damaged.
if the scammer had spent as much time learning about cards as he did setting up the site, you would have already sent your money in.

[kayla71]

I made an order off them April 6th, received it on Wednesday April 11th and i've been running it since...

I will keep you guys updated, it seems like a standalone script however could it be some type of subbed bin but then how would that explain using my exisiting card? If you guys want me to post some files that they have in the members area i can..

lets say they found a way to write subbed bins to cards..how does it explain all the ppv channels open? I'm not saying this is a hack but from what i see itworks and i can't bash them, i think you guys should do some more investigating...i will write another post in a couple days,

muah
kayla:p

[kayla71]

also a point to mention the order was delivered cod (cash on delivery) you can't lose if it works i have yet to see any scams to accept cod which is what sold me..

[snake173]

card type
reciever
are you loading to a card if so which loader
did you get an Ird
we need to no this
Send the card info or Bin #

COD=they no right where to find you and send the wonderful letter

Snake173

[snagalee]

Hey kayla. I can get abc in hd with a outdoor antenna. For twenty bucks cod I will send you the info thanks

[doeling]

Kayla has made 30+ post in the last 8 hours with post like "nice info", and just joined. I'd say he works for the p4 site.

[wtp]

Kayla has made 30+ post in the last 8 hours with post like "nice info", and just joined. I'd say he works for the p4 site.


I have to agree. Look at his posts. He must have alot of different receivers and cards with dish, bev and now dtv. hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[beartrack]

Kayla has made 30+ post in the last 8 hours with post like "nice info", and just joined. I'd say he works for the p4 site.


Agreed, and always at the end of someone else posts, scam

[kayla71]

are you guys kidding me? i work around satellites all day and i signed up after seeing this post listed in the actual members area on xxxxxxx

i have no reason to lie and i will not be bashed or flamed with bs...i am just a tester and was informing you guys that we should take a second glance to investigte these guys before automatically calling it a scam. I ordered off them and have had no bad experiences what do you want me to say? I have no reason what so ever to lie.

from what i can see its a 4619 chip loader like a blue nexus just converted into their own "in-house" loader.

i will get some free hosting later tonight when the kids are in bed and upload some of the files i downloaded from there members area.

as of this moment my DTVH20-600 is running still as a wideopen 3M.

muah:p
kayla

[iamjesuschrist]

lets see some proof of this shit, You just replyed to a post I had and it had nothing to do with you or a hack, WTF??
JC

[The Lizard King]

are you guys kidding me? i work around satellites all day and i signed up after seeing this post listed in the actual members area on www.ispamallofthetestingsites.com"]xxx.ispamallofthetestingsites.com
Posting live links outside of mili's site is a big no-no. Mods?

TLK :cool:

[MarvinGardens]

Obviously a scam.

Kayla71 join date on Mili's site is April 2007 (sometime this month, within the last 14 days) and he already has 38 posts.

He has been posting meaningless replies in order to up his post count on this site thinking that it would add to his credibility.

Crawl back under your rock.

[tommyoz]

are you guys kidding me?

No, you are kidding yourself.

[squegee]

Site does not even have security turned on (yet). Any user ID and password in the login boxes will take you into "members" area. The single file in the download folder is a "bin2" file. The "hex" data in this file contains letters such as "S" and "J".

hxxp://www.thep4hack.com/members/files/bins/

Got a real brain-donor running this one. Har, this is almost funny.

Peace out!

[LPGAS4U]

motorola cable box 2224 - hacket no ppv no porn

Were can you find the cable boxes I have cable and would like to get one if it really works

[richard g]

i would only belive it if it was from mili. bottom line richard g

[badger6]

Site does not even have security turned on (yet). Any user ID and password in the login boxes will take you into "members" area. The single file in the download folder is a "bin2" file. The "hex" data in this file contains letters such as "S" and "J".

hxxp://www.thep4hack.com/members/files/bins/

Got a real brain-donor running this one. Har, this is almost funny.

Peace out!

Not only that, the supposed code is a repeating patern of useless letters and numbers.

[Crazy1_79]

Hard to pull any scam with you watchdogs on the prowl. Glad to see it guys

[doeling]

I'll be the first to apologize if you can prove us all wrong! Get those kids to bed and upload those files of this "brand new hack". The cookie monster did say dave forgot about the sewer pipe a while back and I would love to see Dave but I highly doubt it will happen.

[Sulten]

funny thing is this has been popping up on another site aswell, the name posting is reese77 funny thing is its always a buddy

my buddy got his package today with the loader, and some cd with software on it, i havn't seen him do the actual card but soon as get goes home hes gonna call me and let me know

the username/password works that they sent him and in the members area there is .bin2 files is that a different type of bin from hu days? i'm soo excited i can finally start using my directv
as posted on another site.

They say Located 100% Offshore in Costa Rica
...offshore costarica my ass!

They are based in Russia... but judging from the address even that is BS. My guess is its all set up on BS credit cards tracing back to no one because its just for a quick cash grab and run...since we havent had a p4 scam in awhile. The site is setup only to run for a year....guess they have no plans on stickin around and also they dont even own the rights to the site.....yet another red flag.

Also they were set up only 10 days ago, if you look at their testimonial page they already have tonnes of feedback......yeah right....Impossible! How can you have so much feedback when your website has only been open a few days?

This is a scam......100%

Save your cash. You are going to get burned otherwise.....guaranteed.

This site screams scam and has red flags everywhere, anyone that orders from them knowing this is foolish and has way too much cash on their hands....but there is one born every minute so they say.

You have been warned!

Regards,

Noorudeen

Domain Name: THEP4HACK.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.enom.com
Referral URL: htXp://www.enom.com
Name Server: NS1.WCSHOST.NET
Name Server: NS2.WCSHOST.NET
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 01-apr-2007
Creation Date: 01-apr-2007
Expiration Date: 01-apr-2008

Registrant Contact:
wwx.thep4hack.com
The P4 Hack (chris_xx@consultant.com)
+1.593204xx
Fax: +1.5555xx
45l
Moscow, MO 93028
RU

[old school]

Close your mouth, cause you been cold busted!:rolleyes:

[drphibes]

in april of last year an identical site named thep4people was spamming and even claimed to be sending samples to the mods of several sites. You can still find discussions of that scam on several sites.

[snake173]

Untill the head man or some of the older Mods speak to me it's just hot air. The only thing he has going form my view is hs is not trying to sell it to us but, the people I pay most attention have not given their opinion yet. I will not pass judgment until better tester's than me speak but just dosen't seem real.


snake173

[wtp]

well it's morning and I see he never posted any files. Atleast I didn't see any.........

[1one]

I will put in my .02 here. The main reason that most will never see a dtv hack is because of one person. His name is :Igor Serebryany
Google him up!

[Ohms]

Here is a 2003 CNN article about the incident. It seems that the kid got busted when he swiped some documents and posted them on the internet to help the hackers crack into the P4 cards. I fail to see how this indicates that we will never see a dtv hack, however 1one knows things that many do not. I am not disputing him, but hoping that someone will clarify for me. Hacking history is interesting.

hxxp://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/01/03/economic.espionage.ap/

[MarvinGardens]

Here is a link describing the sentence imposed on the kid who stole the P4 info:

hxxp://www.cybercrime.gov/serebryanySent.htm

[seaboard18]

I will put in my .02 here. The main reason that most will never see a dtv hack is because of one person. His name is :Igor Serebryany
Google him up!


1one,

I think you should explain in detail why Igor Serebryany is the reason why. I did read a few details from various web sites but none that I read indicates that he would be the reason why there will never be a DTV hack. Its my opinion that DTV is the reason why a DTV hack is not on the horizon at the moment. DTV has the deep pockets and have the ability to help DN into extinction. Its all about greed.

[beartrack]

1one,
Its my opinion that DTV is the reason why a DTV hack is not on the horizon at the moment. DTV has the deep pockets and have the ability to help DN into extinction. Its all about greed.

Pretty much says it all.

[HILLBILLY]

1one,

I think you should explain in detail why Igor Serebryany is the reason why. I did read a few details from various web sites but none that I read indicates that he would be the reason why there will never be a DTV hack. Its my opinion that DTV is the reason why a DTV hack is not on the horizon at the moment. DTV has the deep pockets and have the ability to help DN into extinction. Its all about greed.

I think u hit the nail there!

[squegee]

moot point - site is now dead. Dang, I was hoping I'd have somethig to kill 10 minutes while listening to my 5-year-old do her reading homework tonight.

Peace-
-Sq!

[badger6]

Boy oh boy, that was quick, hehehe.

[ggjayjay]

funny thing is this all started on the other sites as said above!! But All started on Friday the 13 go figure!! This is a load of crap!! I use to know a guy who wa buying rom 10 11 scripts from them and after awhile The file went down like 2 weeks and you never saw another file from them!! So people if you want to be taken for your $$ Then try it out other wise stay away from the scamers!!! My 2cents!!

[automagic]

From the looks of things, they may already be gone. I visited the site and yesturday, lots of broken links then you could type in anything in the member and password box and it would let you into the cgi and just some bogus stuff as far as I could see. the site said today said to check back in 24 hours


Welcome to thep4hack.com. This domain was recently www.namecheap.com/?from=thep4hack.com&aid=pyd&rid=txtcont"]registered at namecheap.com Following is a message from the owner of this domain.
Opps...Our site is currently offline, please check back within the next 24 hours as we are tranfersing our servers


anyways, seeing is believe, rumors are just that. someday maybe there will be something to test with direct, but not ever holding my breath. ggjayjay, you are right

[1one]

I will explain a little more for some old friends here. Lets remember that igor did in fact release some files. Now knowing that, and the fact that some who have replied here are very intelligent testers, how many found those files? Now lets even go a step or so futher. How many can tell me the formula for figuring clks/bit? You cant even log without that formula. I can also assure you that, and I know I am gonna hear all sorts of naysayers, The plastic side of a DTV hack would be useless. The only use a dump would serve would be to emulate. So someone post that clks/bit and I will go a little futher. We all know that you have to have the ability to communicate with the card to ever get to step one.
Seaboard and Ohms,
Are you up to the task of finding out why he is indeed the reason? Keep in mind that its my opinion and could be wrong.

[badger6]

Come on one1, I wanna know.

[1one]

Its like one of those you cant get there from here stories. You have to search for some answers to be able to never fall for one of these stories again.

[drphibes]

There was no critical information released in the purloined P4 papers. they did post the specs of the chip performance and confirmed that it was an SLE66 series but no actual algorithms, just a reference level for the encryption power. These are not technical documents, just normal business communications showing that DTV was screwing over NDS and generally being incompetent anyway ( I like the email complaining that DTV wouldnt let NDS do any killer ecms!).

I dont know what mysterious thing you think you are trying to project about the importance of the clks/bit, the atr and ISO7816 pretty much cover that.

[JT]

Until you just posted that drphibes I was going to close this thread. We'll see where it goes from here but I think basically everything to say has been said....and this isn't the first time.

This is a scam guys. There is no P4 hack or anything close to it publicly available at this time. End of story.

[1one]

I was not trying to be mysterious Drphibes. I was trying to give a little history lesson to Ohms and Seaboard18 because they asked why I considered Igor32 to be the reason . Pointless here anyway. It would be a bad thing to enjoy the hobby. If they still want it they may pm me for the affidavit on findlaw which relates to those involved sites and names.

For the record: clks/bit is F/D 512/16=32/1

[drphibes]

we actually havent had any problems with logging and communicating with P4 cards so any statements there are kinda lame unless you are starting from scratch and you are too retarded to use software thats available. Of course, without the capability of encrypting and signing the packets you cant really communicate much.
I was thinking you were trying to make the point that the card has an internal clock that runs at a multiple of the external clock and how, in addition to random waits, that prevents you from having reliable glitching points even if you knew exactly how the bootup process works ( or guessed at it using one of infineons developers kits). But igor didnt cause that.
I disagree with the basic idea that igor is the reason why we wont have a hack, he may be the reason why we know we wont have a hack since the leaked card requirements show an impressive approach. the findlaw stuff is also a red herring since none of the busts were important people in the hobby, no major players. Operation Decrypt, where aol, ram and many of the cream of the crop were taken out is a bigger cause of why we have no progress though I dont expect they would get far either.

[1one]

we actually havent had any problems with logging and communicating with P4 cards so any statements there are kinda lame unless you are starting from scratch and you are too retarded to use software thats available. Of course, without the capability of encrypting and signing the packets you cant really communicate much.
I was thinking you were trying to make the point that the card has an internal clock that runs at a multiple of the external clock and how, in addition to random waits, that prevents you from having reliable glitching points even if you knew exactly how the bootup process works ( or guessed at it using one of infineons developers kits). But igor didnt cause that.
I disagree with the basic idea that igor is the reason why we wont have a hack, he may be the reason why we know we wont have a hack since the leaked card requirements show an impressive approach. the findlaw stuff is also a red herring since none of the busts were important people in the hobby, no major players. Operation Decrypt, where aol, ram and many of the cream of the crop were taken out is a bigger cause of why we have no progress though I dont expect they would get far either.

Well, step one is where I suggested starting in post#40. I'm not so retarted as to not use available SW/HW but maybe your to lazy to read the post. I will not attempt to jump so far ahead as to even address check signing.
Since you feel all is rotten fish maybe you will explain to the members this statement direct from findlaw:
C&P


Consequently, each non-networked, desktop
computer found during a search can easily contain the
equivalent of 7.5 million pages of data, which, if printed
out, would completely fill a 10' x 12' x 10' room to the
ceiling.
You are entitled to your opinion also. To bad that DTV did not see it your way for igor32 and some others from that time.

To keep the thread from becoming any more confrontational, My opinion:
The F card was compromised. The H and HU were not. Had igor not been so careless, you would have the necessary leak and be viewing DTV now.
You now can have the thread and post drphibes. I am sure you feel your far more qualified in answering a question that was asked of me. I could tell that by your resorting to name calling.

[richfield_guy]

Have you ever wondered why DTV hasn't seen a commercialized hack yet? Have you ever wondered why when there is a supposed REAL hack the government jumps in right away? I have heard there is more behind it then what we know. I have been told by members of our US armed forces that it is because the US government bought the same encryption for military communications use. Now, I myself have no confirmed proof, but it sure does make sense now that I think about it.

[seaboard18]

we actually havent had any problems with logging and communicating with P4 cards so any statements there are kinda lame unless you are starting from scratch and you are too retarded to use software thats available. Of course, without the capability of encrypting and signing the packets you cant really communicate much.

Your statement to 1one was not called for, he is far from being retarded. This thread is no longer useful and should be closed now. This forum is for high tech discussion and should not be used as a kindergarten or a bathroom wall.

[drphibes]

I agree it should be closed. Having read through the igor case when it was initially prosecuted and having seen the p4 papers that came out I have no problem stating that the information he released was sufficient to have given someone starting from scratch a leg up ( thus supporting prosecution) but the canadian group that was working on it at that time had already dechipped a p4 and found it to be close enough to the sle66 chips and different enough from sle88 chips to be called an sle66 ( and so different in architecture from a tms and other micros typcially used that they were ruled out quickly), after that they simply got the sle66 spec sheets and developers kits to get a good idea of what they were facing so it did not improve their knowledge. KNowing that Mondex had used sle66 in europe for many years as electronic money and what methods had been tried unsuccessfully there also was a help.Having been involved as a witness in technology theft suits before, I am quite familiar with the language used there, which would seem very misleading to those that have never seen it before and I dont beleive it should be quoted by someone that doesnt understand the meaning.

I think the innuendos as presented by 1one were insulting to start with as he intimates that he there is some special information present that we are all too stupid to see while never having to reveal it. Scammers and morons typically do things like that to hide their total lack of knowledge while gaining some level of self importance and self worth, it does not help us in any way. He obviously did not understand the meaning of the lawsuit and his communication comment showed a lack of understanding there. His subsequent conclusion that I am more qualified to answer than he is is the only correct comment that he has made, but I would suggest more everyone else in this thread is also more qualified than he is.

[badger6]

Gets more interesting with every post. Lets keep this one open !!!

[JT]

I think most everything to be said has been said. If you guys really want me to reopen this one I'll be glad to.

The main point of all this is don't get suckered. The original post linked to a scam site. That's really all that matters to most of us end users. If anyone other than someone like drphibes or a reputable mod says there is a hack, it's a scam. Don't fall for it.