Dssdoods accepting P4/D1 cards for trades?

[Crazy1_79]

Someone pointed this out to me. I found it most interesting. First questin that comes to mind, WHY?
xxx.dssdooda.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16178&cat=0&page=1&featured

[JT]

Weird. Some of those trades arent half bad either.

[mannybeef]

arent the new cards that come wit the directv hd boxes period 12 cards ?

so even if they glitch d1, d2, p4, or p5 soon what good will it do when they have already switched to hd p12.

just a thought.

peace

[Bushwackers]

Think I'll just hold on to my stacks heheheh


Think you all should do the same.


BW

[SuperManny]

Either they're taking a big gamble, or they know something we don't. Kinda makes you wonder...

[Bandit5906]

Most interesting! Time will tell, I hope!

[pitbullracin]

Im with you on this one. I mean 20 to 25 cards for an unlocker or enigma. That's alot of cards. Especially if something goes come about. You would of traded them for about 5 dollars or less a card.

Think I'll just hold on to my stacks heheheh


Think you all should do the same.


BW

[old school]

I see this is in the bullshit thread...Is this bullshit?

[Bandit5906]

Time and Tide Wait For No Man!

[Ohms]

I see this is in the bullshit thread...Is this bullshit?

Not really, since the site has the trade offer posted on it.

[HILLBILLY]

i know nothing of fta, but does a card ned to be clitched to be used in the aux part of an fta unit? this is very interestting.

[flybyu]

Now that is interesting for sure, we can only hope.
Would love to have Dave back again!

[Caddylover]

yes, very interesting indeed. Seems funny that CC comes back to life....at this point in time. Certainly not getting any hopes up, but the coincidence is quite titilating

[Ohms]

cardcoders dot org has pulled that post. BFG65 said it was not the site asking for cards, but some member posted that. They removed it and said they are not looking for cards.

So at this point, we just have DSSDOODA looking for cards, and that is somewhat less interesting being only a single issue.

[iczer01]

there is this guy buying p4 and p5 cards like its going out of style

h**p://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=webuyandsell2u& ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true

[mannybeef]

there is this guy buying p4 and p5 cards like its going out of style

h**p://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=webuyandsell2u& ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true

holy shit you aint kidding. notice where he lives too ?!

in the words of mortal kombat: "it has begun"

my question still stands above but, who cares if it works when it works, good enough!!!

peace

[pecker88]

there is this guy buying p4 and p5 cards like its going out of style

h**p://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=webuyandsell2u& ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true

Thats pretty damn good proof that someone knows more then the "average" tester. WTF would this person buy up hundreds if not thousants of "useless" DTV card??

Somethin is goin on behind the scenes, I don't care what anyone says.:)

[Ohms]

perhaps he is a gambler

[JT]

perhaps he is a purchaser for Dave just to get the cards off the market.....

[JT]

Anyone do the math and figure what the average price this ebay buyer is paying for the Dave cards?

[Zorglub]

There`s something exiting in this !

[iczer01]

i dont really see him payin more than 8.00 . but the price is anywhere under that

[JT]

Shit! I'd sell all my Dave cards for $8 each right now.

[badger6]

Shit! I'd sell all my Dave cards for $8 each right now.

Then you gonna have to pay 12X that to buy them back when they drop the "fix" on us, ha ha ha.

[mannybeef]

perhaps he is a purchaser for Dave just to get the cards off the market.....

i didnt think that dave was in canada ?

thats not it at all, good guess if he lived in the us though!

it is exciting . not a boner moment, but exciting none the less!!!

peace

[rg6a]

Then you gonna have to pay 12X that to buy them back when they drop the "fix" on us, ha ha ha.


It would be a nice thought but it isn't going to happen. :-(

[jocko50]

It would be a nice thought but it isn't going to happen. :-( Oh come on,. Don't rain on the parade man. We can all dream little. Besides this tread is a better read than the snags-milli saga:)

[badger6]

It would be a nice thought but it isn't going to happen. :-(

Was sort of kidding with JT. No offense, but I don't think anyone here knows what will happen in the future. If ya do, let me know some lotto numbers !!!

[flybyu]

If you quickly see his still listed purchases looks like a little over
200 cards for 400 US, so about $2 each and he is taking anything
for Dave.
Lets see if he keeps on buying them all up?

[Ohms]

Make note of his ebay ID. You may need to contact him later if you need a card. LOL

[badger6]

Make note of his ebay ID. You may need to contact him later if you need a card. LOL

U got that one right, ha ha !!!

[Warcraft]

cards have been purchased over the couple of years from fleabay, alot of them were used for subs i heard up north,
even xsubs maybey they were used too,

pricing on the 4/5/6 card is around $1.00 to $3.00 bulk,from unwrapped to wrapped
i see on fleabay they were going for $3.00 to $5.00 sometimes.for singles and a few multiples. but bulk is cheaper of cource.

hell i will take a few thousand+ p4/5/6 cards in bulk @ $1.00 a piece
just for spec if you have them lying around. just PM me

Warcraft

[jamrock1]

My 2 cents is that d*ve cards have been compromised, whether inhouse or otherwise using modified equipment available to us on the net,and they are just trying to dry up the market before its leaked.This person seems like a buyer for d*ve.

[greenie-monster]

If this fleebay guy did not work for Dave, then EBAY and/or DAVE himself would notify him about purchasing so many cards. I'm sure DAVE would consider it illegal and deem him a dealer.

Therefore, he does work for DAVE, and I would not be surprised if all those sellers he purchases from will one day receive a nice letter from DAVE concerning these sales.

[pentium101]

Maybe he is buying them to trade with Dssdooda for equipment.

[mrdon2]

If this fleebay guy did not work for Dave, then EBAY and/or DAVE himself would notify him about purchasing so many cards. I'm sure DAVE would consider it illegal and deem him a dealer.

Therefore, he does work for DAVE, and I would not be surprised if all those sellers he purchases from will one day receive a nice letter from DAVE concerning these sales.

I know someone who has dealt with him, this guy is based out of Florida, seems he has tons of units and no cards which is why he's buying so many cards, but at the same time it does look suspect as he seems to be stockpiling cards. DTV won't let you activate P4's, they will send a replacement instead, so maybe he knows something the rest of us don't. I have heard the rumors myself but won't believe until I see it with my own 2 eyes.

[Birdie]

Maybe they are just making P4 card clocks LMAO!!!1

[Tom2004]

How do you know your not dealing with DN or Dave Signal Integrity people and all this is a sting operation?

The only ones who could possibly predict the future in this type of activity are the providers.

[mili]

I am as baffled as you guys are. Would be nice to have a DTV hack but with all these FTAs running sales for it would be minimal with the risk of assasination (never mind a bust) sky high. I would not touch this hack with a 10' pole if it existed. DTV is nasty and hiring a few hitmen is not a stretch for them.

mili

[McLovin]

or it could be that these guys have a tip that we are in for a very cold winter this year and expect a run on pocket sized ice scrapers

[Birdie]

I am set for Ice srcapers for life already.

[Soundguy]

Theres more then one guy buying a lot of P cards on fleebay. Found a couple more that have been buying for the entire 90 day avaliable history, cards and receivers & cards both, and US and CA both too.

Dam Mili I was hoping that you would be the leading edege dealer for anything that came down the DTV pike. Come on we will pitch in and get you a kevlar vest ?

There was a lot of talk about some FTA boxes running DTV, one or two that are doing NDS Mexico Neosat I think and there was talk from the Magnum camp about it as well some time ago. Never gave it much thought though.
Would be nice to know what the real deal is?

[Soundguy]

Dont know where you guys live wher you can use a card for an ice scraper maybe Flordia but up north here you need something a little more substantial to get to the windshield most frosty days !!

[mannybeef]

bottom line facts

i would like to see someone collect all 10 million cards. go ahead try. no way

so if there is a crack for them, when it is released you will see how many cards and card +receivers sold it will make your head spin.
so forget about that approach.
i can buy 1 card and receiver for less than 20 dollars i and most of us only need one. so forget about the buzz regarding lots of them.

the most likely scenario's are these two

they are trying to creat this buzz to capatilize on get them wile the gettings good, push you into buying.
well like i said ill only need one so even if there 300 dollars working im in.
at that point that is.

but i will say it again, the person that has had everyone at this site looking at his past puchases and sales of golden quarters LIVES IN CANADA.
that is 100% garauntee .i do not care where you heard florida.
he is in canada.

as far as a positive reason for the buzz well we have all been talking and praying for it for 3 years now. and yes i feel positive.

do not get caught up in the hype and actually getting inthe way of the coders that are buyinh them. they need all the surplus to try shit.

by the way the guy that watches for dish is dnsi5723 (http://myworld.ebay.com/dnsi5723/)http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif( 0 (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=dnsi5723) ) notice his rating!

he doesnt sell he doesnt buy just canceled peoples auctions if he feels you are selling something not in compliance. fact.

here is a list of the watchers so to speak of ebay electronics

http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/vero-aboutme.html#electronics

directv is not even on that list.
they apparently are that confident they can not be compromised i guess.

anyway read from post one and post intelligible info.
lol
i forgot this is the b.s. section.lol

peace

[mrdon2]

bottom line facts



but i will say it again, the person that has had everyone at this site looking at his past puchases and sales of golden quarters LIVES IN CANADA.
that is 100% garauntee .i do not care where you heard florida.
he is in canada.






Not gonna get into a pissing match with you, but I spoke to one of my contacts that deals with DTV stuff, buys and sells off of Ebay, and spoke to him about this thread and before I could mention the name he said is it this "guy", I said yeah. He knows that guys in Florida cause he sold to him, and being that my friend also has a home in Florida he knows where the guy is and what he is doing on the surface i.e. getting cards for receivers that he has. I also know that you can no longer activate ird's that do not have a receiver ID just ask anyone who's ever gotten an xt 726, nor can you activate P4 cards, there is a way around the ird's, but not the cards.

[mannybeef]

webuyandsell2u (http://myworld.ebay.com/webuyandsell2u) ( 97
Member since Oct-17-06 in Canada

clearly states this at the top left corner of the lik provided in first page of this thread.

like i said i do not care what you were told . look at the facts !

not a pissing match, do not post b.s. just because it is allowed here.
i took this particular thread as speculation and not b.s.

but you and a couple other guys keep proving me wrong.

facts speak louder than anyones friend.

the only merchandise this guy has sold on ebay is three golden quarters that were errors and valuable.
so your friends friend said he has so many receivers and has not even sold one ever on ebay.
so what is the we buy and sell to you. he isnt selling directv stuff thats for sure.

peace

[badger6]

I am as baffled as you guys are. Would be nice to have a DTV hack but with all these FTAs running sales for it would be minimal with the risk of assasination (never mind a bust) sky high. I would not touch this hack with a 10' pole if it existed. DTV is nasty and hiring a few hitmen is not a stretch for them.

mili
Come on Mili, don't be scared, we all gonna die. Just think of all the money. If worst comes to worst, just ring, ring, ring, me on the NANA phone. I'll be there in 12 hrs and take care of the problem, its gonna cost ya $$$$$$$$$$ though.

[Soundguy]

webuyandsell2u (http://myworld.ebay.com/webuyandsell2u) ( 97
Member since Oct-17-06 in Canada

clearly states this at the top left corner of the lik provided in first page of this thread.

like i said i do not care what you were told . look at the facts !

not a pissing match, do not post b.s. just because it is allowed here.
i took this particular thread as speculation and not b.s.

but you and a couple other guys keep proving me wrong.

facts speak louder than anyones friend.

the only merchandise this guy has sold on ebay is three golden quarters that were errors and valuable.
so your friends friend said he has so many receivers and has not even sold one ever on ebay.
so what is the we buy and sell to you. he isnt selling directv stuff thats for sure.

peace

MBeef, if you search the avaliable 90 day history on fleebay you will find that there are at least three others BUYING all the P cards and receivers with P cards and two of them are in the US and two are in CA. These are the major repeat purchasers of P Cards on fleebay. Between webuyandsell and these guys most every purchase they have made is a P card or receiver and P card. And there not SELLING there BUYING. For the last 90 days they have been buying and not selling? Thats the facts and you can search them for yourself.
There are quite a number of sales to these guys and their not selling back to anybody on fleebay, not yet anyway ?
Dont believe it search if for yourself. I did and the history is there.

[mannybeef]

MBeef, if you search the avaliable 90 day history on fleebay you will find that there are at least three others BUYING all the P cards and receivers with P cards and two of them are in the US and two are in CA. These are the major repeat purchasers of P Cards on fleebay. Between webuyandsell and these guys most every purchase they have made is a P card or receiver and P card. And there not SELLING there BUYING. For the last 90 days they have been buying and not selling? Thats the facts and you can search them for yourself.
There are quite a number of sales to these guys and their not selling back to anybody on fleebay, not yet anyway ?
Dont believe it search if for yourself. I did and the history is there.

listen up my friend, directv is already moving rapidly to hd sooner than dish .\

so what your trying to studder is they are going to buy all this stuff match them up with receivers then sell them.
why wait the boxes if not hd will be useless soon enough. "yep we are going to corner the market with useless boxes" " but not yet" wtf

this is my last post for this situation i assure you.

not a last word but, damn you guys are just not thinking past the initial "oh i get it" stage.

i dont even get why , but i am far closer to explaining the truth than you guys covering up for the coders buying up all the cards i guess.
but if we noticed than everyone noticed too late.

so anyway have a great day.

peace.

[mrdon2]

webuyandsell2u (http://myworld.ebay.com/webuyandsell2u) ( 97
Member since Oct-17-06 in Canada

clearly states this at the top left corner of the lik provided in first page of this thread.

like i said i do not care what you were told . look at the facts !

not a pissing match, do not post b.s. just because it is allowed here.
i took this particular thread as speculation and not b.s.

but you and a couple other guys keep proving me wrong.

facts speak louder than anyones friend.

the only merchandise this guy has sold on ebay is three golden quarters that were errors and valuable.
so your friends friend said he has so many receivers and has not even sold one ever on ebay.
so what is the we buy and sell to you. he isnt selling directv stuff thats for sure.

peace

Where is the B.S., my friend is in Chicago, he's sold items to webuyandsell and shipped them to Florida, he's won auctions that they both were bidding for, if webuyandsell is up to something else who knows, i stated that in my first post, but he also has a need for the cards, but the amount doesn't make sense. I never said he sells items on Ebay either, you assumed that.

Enough on this subject for me, i know what i know and you know what you know, in the end no hack for DTV is public so the speculation and pissing is pointless.

[JT]

listen up my friend, directv is already moving rapidly to hd sooner than dish .\

so what your trying to studder is they are going to buy all this stuff match them up with receivers then sell them.
why wait the boxes if not hd will be useless soon enough. "yep we are going to corner the market with useless boxes" " but not yet" wtf

this is my last post for this situation i assure you.

not a last word but, damn you guys are just not thinking past the initial "oh i get it" stage.

i dont even get why , but i am far closer to explaining the truth than you guys covering up for the coders buying up all the cards i guess.
but if we noticed than everyone noticed too late.

so anyway have a great day.

peace.

So what is the truth here? What are we missing. Do you really think we are "covering up" for the coders?

[Soundguy]

listen up my friend, directv is already moving rapidly to hd sooner than dish .\

so what your trying to studder is they are going to buy all this stuff match them up with receivers then sell them.
why wait the boxes if not hd will be useless soon enough. "yep we are going to corner the market with useless boxes" " but not yet" wtf

this is my last post for this situation i assure you.

not a last word but, damn you guys are just not thinking past the initial "oh i get it" stage.

i dont even get why , but i am far closer to explaining the truth than you guys covering up for the coders buying up all the cards i guess.
but if we noticed than everyone noticed too late.

so anyway have a great day.

peace.

Why dont you learn how to read ???? I did not studder I made a factual post that theres more then one buyer buying P cards and they are not all in CA as you posted. I dont have a fucking clue what they plan to do with the crap and you dont either other then there may be a new set of toys on the horizon. I am not covering up for anyone or anything just telling you that if you have enough sense to learn how to search fleebay you will find that theres more then one buyer and none of their history shows any sales. The rest of your post is useless babble in no way relating to anyones post on the subject and pure speculation on your part. For all we know they are shipping the stuff to south america or the moon.
Maybe you shouldent drink so much so early in the day ...

[badger6]

Why dont you learn how to read ???? I did not studder I made a factual post that theres more then one buyer buying P cards and they are not all in CA as you posted. I dont have a fucking clue what they plan to do with the crap and you dont either other then there may be a new set of toys on the horizon. I am not covering up for anyone or anything just telling you that if you have enough sense to learn how to search fleebay you will find that theres more then one buyer and none of their history shows any sales. The rest of your post is useless babble in no way relating to anyones post on the subject and pure speculation on your part. For all we know they are shipping the stuff to south america or the moon.
Maybe you shouldent drink so much so early in the day ...


Speaking of drinking, I'll trade someone 2 p4s for a good bottle of bourbon, ha ha ha !!!!

[JT]

I'll trade you two p4's for a cheap bottle of rum. ;-) ....prefer Cpt. Morgan's though.....

[badger6]

I'll trade you two p4's for a cheap bottle of rum. ;-) ....prefer Cpt. Morgan's though.....

Shit JT, the price is dropping like a rock. Sell, sell, sell. The ironic thing is that if I ever sell what I have, I'll need it 2 weeks later.

[mikepr]

Someone mentioned earlier that the person buying all these P4 would get busted id Dave found out..What I want to know 'Is it illegal to own 300 or 400 of these cards if they are not tampered with??even without the receivers?"

[jamrock1]

Guys,this is a great idea on the providers behalf because if the h*ck becomes widespread publicly(if there's one) then they have a lot to lose.I can bet d*ve has their own guys on the inside that tries to h*ck their own product to find it flaws using available equipment on the net.Just think for a minute if ch*rlie had done the same thing. They would have gotten rid of some of their troubles because the base of teseting is plastic and everything else emulates it,i.e. ft,atmega etc.

[Dragster]

Maybe they work in emulation or boot boards,that would be nice.

[aj7769]

Guys,this is a great idea on the providers behalf because if the h*ck becomes widespread publicly(if there's one) then they have a lot to lose.I can bet d*ve has their own guys on the inside that tries to h*ck their own product to find it flaws using available equipment on the net.Just think for a minute if ch*rlie had done the same thing. They would have gotten rid of some of their troubles because the base of teseting is plastic and everything else emulates it,i.e. ft,atmega etc.
dude, you don't need a ch*rlie card, haven't for years. in fact plastic is a pain (i remember black sunday). from what i understand NDS COMPLETELY hacked ch*rlie as an exercise, and to show their customer the level of security they were providing. that is, ch*rlie never had a chance even if they would've bought up cards.

the only reason we needed a d*ve card (that had been auxed, or similar) was to call routines that hadn't been disassembled, and had too much security to get in. in other words, a complete hack of d*ve would not require any card, assuming: emu, atmega, FTA boxes, etc.

just a thought, if someone finally got in, seems everything would be there. with such good security, at the top, why would you have to add additional security to the ASIC (i think ASIC is the right term, don't flame me). therefore, why would you need the cards at all.

just my take, no foundation.

regards to all
aj

[jamrock1]

dude, you don't need a ch*rlie card, haven't for years. in fact plastic is a pain (i remember black sunday). from what i understand NDS COMPLETELY hacked ch*rlie as an exercise, and to show their customer the level of security they were providing. that is, ch*rlie never had a chance even if they would've bought up cards.
the only reason we needed a d*ve card (that had been auxed, or similar) was to call routines that hadn't been disassembled, and had too much security to get in. in other words, a complete hack of d*ve would not require any card, assuming: emu, atmega, FTA boxes, etc.
just a thought, if someone finally got in, seems everything would be there. with such good security, at the top, why would you have to add additional security to the ASIC (i think ASIC is the right term, don't flame me). therefore, why would you need the cards at all.
just my take, no foundation.
regards to all
aj
hey aj you seem to be a bit more knowlegable on this do you mind sharing a bit more info on not needing a card for ch*rlie,you said haven't in years.I guess this is something beyond what is available on the market.Also remember there was a fix for black sunday(bootloader).Please do share more with us.( i think this thread has been hijacked,maybe should start a new one here in the bullsh*t forum)

[iczer01]

hmmmm

fta= no card
st19xl emu=can run with no card
CEMU= no card
Enigma,armulator,atmega 128&256,=not plastic cards

[Soundguy]

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Well rumor has it two guys reverse engineered the ASIC in China investing over a million dollars in the project. Throw that kind of money around in China and you most likely will meet success. If I am not mistaken we will soon see a new kind of FTA receiver hit the market.

PKD


Sounds Interesting ??

[jamrock1]

hmmmm

fta= no card
st19xl emu=can run with no card
CEMU= no card
Enigma,armulator,atmega 128&256,=not plastic cards
thanks dude i am aware of all these but i did say not what's available on the market.the dude said he hasn't used a card for years.

[jamrock1]

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Well rumor has it two guys reverse engineered the ASIC in China investing over a million dollars in the project. Throw that kind of money around in China and you most likely will meet success. If I am not mistaken we will soon see a new kind of FTA receiver hit the market.

PKD


Sounds Interesting ??

yes it does,and like i said earlier if i were the provider the way to counter is to dry up the card market.like what we are seeing on fleabay before it gets out,basically try to beat the investor at his own game,they wont get everything but they will lessen whats out there.hope fully the investor is the one drying up the market ,those who have their one or two will hang on to them until the cat's out the bag. keepng fingers crossed.

[Tom2004]

Bottom line here is :





HOLD ONTO YOUR CARDS, SOMETHING IS COMING SOON TO YOUR NEIGHBOURHOOD.







If you don't know why your doing what your doing then why do it. They want those cards and for a good reason and are willing to spend to get them. Smells Chinese all the way. Sit back, hang on to your cards and wait it out. It is not like your cards are harming you right now sitting in a drawer collecting dust.

[iczer01]

thanks dude i am aware of all these but i did say not what's available on the market.the dude said he hasn't used a card for years.

am I missing something here but unless I am mistaken cemu st19xl and atmega have been in use for "years"

[jamrock1]

am I missing something here but unless I am mistaken cemu st19xl and atmega have been in use for "years"
I think we all are,dont remember much about st19xl but atmega just came back around also cemu(all was supposedly N1) and yes alot of this other stuff been around, but dude sound like he's been running something else non-stop.this is what gets me, his statement "for years". i guess only he can answer his statements if he feels like.

[fubr]

Or
I could spend a hundred or thousand dollars buying cards.....
right.
then
claim I got a hack.
then get a few feinds in on it with me.
Claim it is working
take a few pre orders and rake in two-hundred thousand bucks.
Hit the bricks with my money, give my friends a few thousand for helping and laugh all the way to the bank.

Point is...wait, wait for a long time before yuou fall for any p4 scams.
It is the easiest scam since snake oil.

A dealer that will send samples of anything to board staff and let them test and review is probaly ok. Unless it has to do with a p4 or Davetv

[Faust]

When did ebay start allowing card sales again? I remember them shutting down any and all auction for access cards without hardware. Especially for Dave.

[Faust]

I am as baffled as you guys are. Would be nice to have a DTV hack but with all these FTAs running sales for it would be minimal with the risk of assasination (never mind a bust) sky high. I would not touch this hack with a 10' pole if it existed. DTV is nasty and hiring a few hitmen is not a stretch for them.

mili

I think your underestimating how huge the market for a DTV hack would be.

[rg6a]

Theres more then one guy buying a lot of P cards on fleebay. Found a couple more that have been buying for the entire 90 day avaliable history, cards and receivers & cards both, and US and CA both too.

Dam Mili I was hoping that you would be the leading edege dealer for anything that came down the DTV pike. Come on we will pitch in and get you a kevlar vest ?

There was a lot of talk about some FTA boxes running DTV, one or two that are doing NDS Mexico Neosat I think and there was talk from the Magnum camp about it as well some time ago. Never gave it much thought though.
Would be nice to know what the real deal is?

Only commenting on the last paragraph, the Only way FTA could do this is with a card slot & some sort of Aux'd card <can't get into the P5 without Looping> and to clone a Dave IRD. Last time I heard, no one has dumped either the plastic or the IRD ROMs.

[rg6a]

[quote=mannybeef]listen up my friend, directv is already moving rapidly to hd sooner than dish .\

so what your trying to studder is they are going to buy all this stuff match them up with receivers then sell them.
why wait the boxes if not hd will be useless soon enough. "yep we are going to corner the market with useless boxes" " but not yet" wtf


<snip>

The FCC drop dead date is '09, N.America doesn't have enough landfills to absorb all those hundreds of millions of analog tv sets. Most folks here aren't old enough to remember when tv sets had channels 2-13 on VHF and then could go to 83 on UHF.

Cable came along and had more channels, Jerrold came out with a cable box and this thing had a base that sat at the tv and a wired remote. About the size of a keyboard with a row of push buttons and a switch so you could double the amount.

Now, with regards to HD, have you heard the term 'up converting' and especially with those $79 DVD players??

All HD TVs have S-Video and even composite, the 3rd DTV bird is the HD one and the Analog signals are going to be available via Sat for many, many years and if down.......then Best Buy will have a $39.95 convertor.

What this has to do with a P5 crack, lost it in the 'heat' of the reply. ;-)

[rg6a]

dude, you don't need a ch*rlie card, haven't for years. in fact plastic is a pain (i remember black sunday). from what i understand NDS COMPLETELY hacked ch*rlie as an exercise, and to show their customer the level of security they were providing. that is, ch*rlie never had a chance even if they would've bought up cards.

It is alledged that NDS leaked the Canal hack (France) which was a Kudelski customer.


the only reason we needed a d*ve card (that had been auxed, or similar) was to call routines that hadn't been disassembled, and had too much security to get in. in other words, a complete hack of d*ve would not require any card, assuming: emu, atmega, FTA boxes, etc.

just a thought, if someone finally got in, seems everything would be there. with such good security, at the top, why would you have to add additional security to the ASIC (i think ASIC is the right term, don't flame me). therefore, why would you need the cards at all.

just my take, no foundation.

regards to all
aj

The Dave cards were never fully dumped, glitching in disclosed enough info and ASIC is the correct term.

[mikepr]

I was just about to ask about the upconverting dvd player..it ups normal dvds correct??You still need a hd tv fo it?????I was just wondering if thre was any ways to watch the hd channels for d-sh without owning a hd tv

[kev jr]

Can anyone say that Triple Dragon is the Only FTA reciever that can handle the likes of dave at this point

Not saying there is a hack for Dragon and dave but it is possible

Point made

The clouds are clearing

Kev

[aj7769]

hey aj you seem to be a bit more knowlegable on this do you mind sharing a bit more info on not needing a card for ch*rlie,you said haven't in years.I guess this is something beyond what is available on the market.Also remember there was a fix for black sunday(bootloader).Please do share more with us.( i think this thread has been hijacked,maybe should start a new one here in the bullsh*t forum)
what got me started looking for info on d*ve (D) was i had an ati all-in-wonder card that could display like 9 channels at once, i was looking for a way to view multiple channels at once, and found hacking info. before black sunday i was just a guy that bought a programmer for $150 on ebay, looped the card once, bought an unlooper. well black sunday pissed me off, and i started researching something called "emu". emu boards were on back order for weeks, and i had found schematics for them, so with a perf board kit i built my own, took a month, of every night after work.

i have an addictive, compulsive personality disorder. with eagle cad software and schematics i found. i started designing my own boards. and yes one of my first was a boot loader, but the emu was great. i made a vow of no down time, so i explored every option for D, and built one of each. the night we switched from H to HU cards was something, had like 5 computers running in the room doing different things. NO DOWN TIME though. by this time i was designing and etching circuit boards on a regular basis. people buying stuff off the net were getting busted, and i didn't want that exposure, so i kept everything to myself. i kept track of my hours for a year and half, like 4000 hours and i was spending atleast a few $100 a month.

fast forward, someone gave me a ch*rlie box and it was on. then B*V. then D shut us off and we have been off. then B*V went spot beam.

i've been away from it for a couple of years, was living on a boat; but, am back on land and a friend gave me a FTA, game on again.

now to answer the question do i know something no one else knows, NO absolutely not. its all here on the net, just spend thousands of hours and thousands of dollars. also, be prepared to fu*k things up and throw them away. a subscription with all the porn pay-per-views you wanted would be cheaper, but not as much fun.

if D is hacked i will have no choice but to accomplish it. thats why i was here.

thanks for asking though.

regards
aj

[jamrock1]

what got me started looking for info on d*ve (D) was i had an ati all-in-wonder card that could display like 9 channels at once, i was looking for a way to view multiple channels at once, and found hacking info. before black sunday i was just a guy that bought a programmer for $150 on ebay, looped the card once, bought an unlooper. well black sunday pissed me off, and i started researching something called "emu". emu boards were on back order for weeks, and i had found schematics for them, so with a perf board kit i built my own, took a month, of every night after work.
i have an addictive, compulsive personality disorder. with eagle cad software and schematics i found. i started designing my own boards. and yes one of my first was a boot loader, but the emu was great. i made a vow of no down time, so i explored every option for D, and built one of each. the night we switched from H to HU cards was something, had like 5 computers running in the room doing different things. NO DOWN TIME though. by this time i was designing and etching circuit boards on a regular basis. people buying stuff off the net were getting busted, and i didn't want that exposure, so i kept everything to myself. i kept track of my hours for a year and half, like 4000 hours and i was spending atleast a few $100 a month.
fast forward, someone gave me a ch*rlie box and it was on. then B*V. then D shut us off and we have been off. then B*V went spot light.
i've been away from it for a couple of years, was living on a boat; but, am back on land and a friend gave me a FTA, game on again.
now to answer the question do i know something no else knows, NO absolutely not. its all here on the net, just spend thousands of hours and thousands of dollars. also, be prepared to fu*k things up and throw them away. a subscription with all the porn pay-per-views you wanted would be cheaper, but not as much fun.
if D is hacked i will have no choice but to accomplish it. thats why i was here.
thanks for asking though.
regards
aj

Thanks aj for sharing that info with us.I am familiar witm cemu on d*ve since h cards days, i also remember dealers were selling those 100mhz cemu setup( ooh the memories). I also started on Ch*rlie back then when Avr,rom2 was the deal rom3 was just coming out. Impressed by you building rvrtyhing yourself,true tester.

[lefty]

i had an ati all-in-wonder card that could display like 9 channels at once

WHAT?

Details on that please?

[Ohms]

Yup, but it was not pratical to watch that way. You could however look to see what was on each one and then pick one. Also, it was not full motion video by any means.

ATI All In Wonder.. I have owned everu model of those since the very first one, right up until ATI got bought and the driver support went in the toilet.

[aj7769]

Yup, but it was not pratical to watch that way. You could however look to see what was on each one and then pick one. Also, it was not full motion video by any means.

ATI All In Wonder.. I have owned everu model of those since the very first one, right up until ATI got bought and the driver support went in the toilet.

never got to that, would have never worked, but that's what made me search the net for D tv multiple channels. even with pitou, and 8 ird's, you would have to convert each to it's own frequency, then combine them, and then send them to the ati card.

you are right.

[lefty]

and the driver support went in the toilet.

Now THAT's an understatement.

Mine worked fine until the first driver upgrade. Hasn't worked since. Still use it for main video, but now use a Hauppage TV card next slot over.

[scorpion]

I don't get why people don't believe in miracles?

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/328/mpeg4testchannels4c5438gi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[dickched]

HAHAHA
All that tells me is that you probably work for Dave...


DH

[scorpion]

And that tells me that you should do a little more homework before you are wrong yet again.

[spanky macdouga]

perhaps he is a purchaser for Dave just to get the cards off the market.....

but why would dave do this assuming it is dave?

[jamrock1]

Spanky the answer is in the quote from JT.If there's say 100,000 cards out there and D*ve buys up 60,000 that makes a difference in his pocket,you're not gonna stop everyone just slow em down and lessen your loss.If these guys aren't working for d*ve, they"re being watched by him.they are not doing nothing illegal but knowing how d*ve operates he has his eyes on this.

[spanky macdouga]

But if it is dave, why buy these cards all of a sudden? You're reply assumes that there's some kind of a hack and dave is trying to (in your words) slow 'em down.

[jamrock1]

But if it is dave, why buy these cards all of a sudden? You're reply assumes that there's some kind of a hack and dave is trying to (in your words) slow 'em down.

Exactly.What i have noticed lately is that nobody is calling Bullshit to these latest rumors.Also its RUMORED the ASIC has been cracked in asia. what would you do being the provider.hmmmm you have the H*ck but i have the cards,this does not stop it going cardless but like i said minimizes the market.D*ve is pitbull so he would be going after that too if it goes that way.all this is just speculation not fact.

[Twostep]

If there's say 100,000 cards out there and D*ve buys up 60,000 that makes a difference in his pocket

I don't know any more than the next guy (Scorpion's screen shot looks interesting though) but I'd say as far as Dave buying up cards - don't think so. 100,000 of them? More like 100 million. They have what, 15 or so million subscribers, factor in the multiple receivers in each household and the replacement cards that have been mailed out and you'd need two freight trains to haul 'em all off....it would be a lot cheaper for Dave to develop an entirely new method of encryption than to buy all his cards back...

I think it's fun to speculate and discuss a possible Dave hack - and it is indeed possible, although probably not without an incredible amount of technology, money, and a few bribes, payoffs and leaks thrown in for good measure. As long as no one starts throwing money at some upstart website offering a 'fix' - no harm, no foul.

[jamrock1]

I don't know any more than the next guy (Scorpion's screen shot looks interesting though) but I'd say as far as Dave buying up cards - don't think so. 100,000 of them? More like 100 million. They have what, 15 or so million subscribers, factor in the multiple receivers in each household and the replacement cards that have been mailed out and you'd need two freight trains to haul 'em all off....it would be a lot cheaper for Dave to develop an entirely new method of encryption than to buy all his cards back...

I think it's fun to speculate and discuss a possible Dave hack - and it is indeed possible, although probably not without an incredible amount of technology, money, and a few bribes, payoffs and leaks thrown in for good measure. As long as no one starts throwing money at some upstart website offering a 'fix' - no harm, no foul.
True enough Two Step.I don't know Sh*t either but there has been more positive talk this time than negative.I 've read somewhere that there was someone in asia with big money getting it done and out come was positive.again not fact.

[jamrock1]

Twostepp you are a member of other sites what the word there? And yes Scorpion screen shot does look interesting

[mrdon2]

I don't get why people don't believe in miracles?

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/328/mpeg4testchannels4c5438gi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What this tells me is that you have the HD service and your B Band Converters are hooked up, not sure if they are broadcasting on the new birds yet, but you are ready to go if they are. Nothing more to it than that, even non-activated HD units will show these channels in the guide.

[JT]

What ever is going on, be on the lookout for a new rash of Dave hack scams. Don't beleive it until you hear from at least three reputable folks that have seen it first hand. All we know for sure are that there are a 4-6 guys on fleabay buying up a lot of Dave cards. It's important to know the difference between what we know for sure and what we think we know.

[Twostep]

Twostepp you are a member of other sites what the word there? And yes Scorpion screen shot does look interesting

Not much different than we're discussing here...the FleaBay buying, the 1M Chinese payout and a member at the revived CardCoders.org site suggesting that members donate their P4's for further testing (their admin deleted the thread)

JT is correct, whether or not there's a genuine breakthrough the scambags will take advantage of the publicity and ream your ass good. Vigilance and common sense is the key here.

[Soundguy]

The funny thing to me is that there are 4 buyers on felch bay that have been buying every card they can get their hands on for 90 days + ... and they are not competeting with each other if you look at the history

Two guys in the great white north and two in the states. Between them they have bought a shit load of cards some for peanuts and some for more then $5 each and even more when you figure in shipping.

Somethings happening and I wish it would break to the public !

[scorpion]

What this tells me is that you have the HD service and your B Band Converters are hooked up, not sure if they are broadcasting on the new birds yet, but you are ready to go if they are. Nothing more to it than that, even non-activated HD units will show these channels in the guide.

Well, first, they have been in engineering test mode for some time.

And if you think you can get these to appear magically by just removing or adding the B Band Convertor, why not go to Best Buy tomorrow and pick up a HR20/H20, connect it up with and without the B-band convertors - trying to get those channels to show up.

After you discover you are wrong and can only pick up the 95xx XM Channels and the 99xx Game Channels regardless of whether the B Band Convertors are installed or not, just take it back and return it for your money back - and make sure you come here to tell everyone how wrong you are.

[Bushwackers]

This thread has covered some very interesting things regarding Dave. My take on it, for anyone that give a rats a$$.

1. I would have to say that there is some kind of hack, is it a total wide open hack, who knows. I say this because Dave has done some hashing over the last couple years and performed what I would call ecm's. I did not log this, I'm stating things from memory and reading various forums over the years.

2. I have to say that Dave is buying up P4/P5 cams. I would think that some dealers have been keeping an eye on this and as soon as they picked up offers for cards they have jumped in just in case and thats why you see known names making offers for cams.

2. The recent court loss in the U.S. that Dave had has in the short tern set a limit or the illusion of what Dave can or will be going after on the legal front. I still deeply believe that Dave will ignore the court and continue the aggressive letter and legal actions agents anyone attempting a hack.

In any event, I have enjoyed the thread. It has been informing and in a weird way the best technical discussion on Dave I have seen in a very long time.

So!!! With that. IF THERE IS A HACK, GET IT OUT TO THE MASSES ASAP. TWO HEADS GO A LOT FARTHER THEN ONE AND 200,000 WILL INSURE DAVE IS SO BUSY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW, THEY WILL HAVE NO TIME FOR LEGAL ACTION.


Bushwackers

[spanky macdouga]

just think aloud here (this usually gets me in trouble with da wife):

if there is a crack and it's made public, who is to say that it wouldn't open the door to other cracks, methods of getting into the card?

[brjak]

The problem is if there is a hack..How do u release it and make money? Its all about money, Y release it if you can recoup your money spent cracking it.

[Bushwackers]

The problem is if there is a hack..How do u release it and make money? Its all about money, Y release it if you can recoup your money spent cracking it.


I would say, spend 3 to 6 months buying ever cam you can get your hands on then release the hack and sell the cams at a very hi price. Hell I know people that would pay through the nose for it. As mili would put it!!! What lemmings would pay hehehe

Any way thats would I would do, but what do I know LOL


Bushwackers

[Soundguy]

Can they do anything about it if its coming out of China?

[jamrock1]

Can they do anything about it if its coming out of China?

exactly my thoughts,even better how about Cuba? and i know some is gonna think abot views*t, but they were located here in cali

[Soundguy]

Now thats an idea ? All those poor people in Pureto Rico getting threat letters from the local cable companies about their dishes may need to look to Cuba soon if their GOV bends to the cable companies.
We on the other hand may have a hard time with mail order from Cuba. Maybe Mili can develop a Cuba connection for more then Cigars !

[jamrock1]

90 miles from key west,somebody will get creative.if enogh money is involved.

[Soundguy]

Yeah those swift boats can carry things other then blow !
Good point !

[Warcraft]

there are ways do distribute, via protect countries, the $ flow is what they want to protect and move around safely to other countries and finally at thier access.

as Mili stated and alot of peep know if you dare a task like this again ole Dave is ruthless and getting bumped off may not be out of the question, as for those that go way back will remember the rumour of tron. scarry stuff.

change is good as far as developers/coders that do it for the $ are concerned, and they will create change, do not ever be so closed minded to believe it does not or has happened.

fta has no or little value to a developer/coder/, other than when shite hits the fan like (map) they sold the fix. hey these guys have to eat too, the only real $ being made was the main importers of ftas, and the dealers that are hustling them. fta is there threat they know it, as was the Arm that is why they wasted no time pouncing on the arm guys.

i sit back and really wonder why charlie has not wacked them off the charts>it is there, they must be fn blind or thier sig intell group arre tryong to protect thier job lol
unless they have something up there sleave. they may get a handout sent to them from whomever makes the next big move in the industry, happen before, developers fighting the providers , also fighting other developers trying to steal thier hard work, the free ware eveloution that happened way back with the release of the hex code way back started the whole thing in a big way, rumour has it it was murdouch that did it to drive the stocks down and cripple the value of dave as it was so wide spread and providers were dropping dave, oh amazing he did buy the company hmmm" lol

as far as dave buying up the cams possible but i doubt it,
when the huey was jsut getting ready for release and the big guns put up or ready to pay up for Hupro they were buying every card /system they could get thier hands on, history may be repeating, the hack may be thier time will tell"

but on spec i will buy a few thousand cards(bulk) if you have them at a buck,

Warcraft

there is so much more ah just my little view, beer time

[mikepr]

Is Direct signal videoguard?? Could you (if there was ever a hack) add it to FTA???
What is globecasts encryption ?

[mdeven]

What ever is going on, be on the lookout for a new rash of Dave hack scams. Don't beleive it until you hear from at least three reputable folks that have seen it first hand. All we know for sure are that there are a 4-6 guys on fleabay buying up a lot of Dave cards. It's important to know the difference between what we know for sure and what we think we know.
JT,
Do you really think you can find three "reputable" folks in this "hobby"?
That's as funny as "extra money" :D
Mark

[JT]

Well, you do have a point there.:p

[flybyu]

Either way something is going on?
Be it Dave buying up all the cards on Fleebay that are floating around or some
dealers on the inside buying them up because they know something is going down.
It would not be any harder to distribute then the old Hu hack that was in the
hands of only a few people that setup in Canada and programs piles of dealers
cards from hotel rooms.

I would love to see/hear some more from "Scorpion" on this matter if he feels like
feeding us any more information?

[Budreaux]

Just don;t jump at the first hint of a hack folks.
I'm always skeptical when it comes to Dave hacks, and for good reason.
I'd love to see Dave testing back again, but I'm not optamistic about it happening, but I'm always open to it happening.

Keep this in mind.... there are some really really smart scammers out there..these folks buying up these cards could be preparing for just that..... may be a bit much, but ya just never know.


Budreaux

[havasu]

The problem is if there is a hack..How do u release it and make money? Its all about money, Y release it if you can recoup your money spent cracking it.

If the rumor about the asic being hacked in China is true then they could manufacture an FTA there and recoup their $$$ in a hurry. No other option if you want dirtv. Look how Viewsat really took off once they had the map fix 1st.

[Warcraft]

so true about the lenghts scammers will go to, and how many peep fall for them, remember the ole "Mandork unlooping scam that alot fell for lol.

view finally coughed up the $ for the map fix, it was done way before, they along with others (freeloaders) were wating for a freebee to copy, hey coders needed to eat too.

the dave ird thing in china is interesting, "if" this ird unfolds it has been in the works for a year, i heard rumor there was a guy traveling there a bit starting over a year ago hmm, lol laughing to myself that ole sob just maybe lol

Warcraft

[flybyu]

If the rumor about the asic being hacked in China is true then they could manufacture an FTA there and recoup their $$$ in a hurry. No other option if you want dirtv. Look how Viewsat really took off once they had the map fix 1st.

Dont hold your breath on the hacking of the ASIC.
If that China rumor was true then there would be no need for a access card at all
so why would people or Dave be buying up all the cards on Fleebay if one is not
needed anyways.

Look for a conventional hack of the card, if we are really lucky an Aux'd card in
a FTA unit just using the ASIC and then the FTA for EMU, that would be the cats
ass with no looping of the Cams then.

"Scorpion" are you going to post back with any additional information/screenshots?

[alkasecond]

Dont hold your breath on the hacking of the ASIC.
If that China rumor was true then there would be no need for a access card at all
so why would people or Dave be buying up all the cards on Fleebay if one is not
needed anyways.
Look for a conventional hack of the card, if we are really lucky an Aux'd card in
a FTA unit just using the ASIC and then the FTA for EMU, that would be the cats
ass with no looping of the Cams then.
"Scorpion" are you going to post back with any additional information/screenshots?

My sentiments exactly.
On the other hand , if they succeded in dumping p4/5 ,using fab in china
, what prevented them from dumping ASIC also?
The whole thing doesn't hold any water so far.

[mili]

THere is so much bullshit in this thread that you need rubber boots to wade through it all. All are speculations and nobody knows anything. Be very very sceptical of any P4 hacks unless someone with a rock solid reputation confirms its existance based on first hand experience.

mili

[Twostep]

THere is so much bullshit in this thread that you need rubber boots to wade through it all.

Yes but at least it's GOOD bullshit. :)
Anything that draws Mdeven and Budreaux out of the closet can't be bad, can it? Oh, for the glory days of Dave......

Good to see you, Mark, Buddy. Lots of memories here. ;)

[Ohms]

I don't think it's ALL bullshit this time.

[elperro]

Let the scamming begin. I believe the way we all know when a true h@ck is out several well known mods from here or elsewhere receive a sample of the h@ck.

hxxp://www.dishe3m.com/
LATEST DSS BUZZ
"dss p4 scripts, dss 3m scripts, p4 software Yes! We have P4 files for your P4 cards! Working with our partners, we have successfully hacked the P4 Cards!"

[aj7769]

Dont hold your breath on the hacking of the ASIC.
If that China rumor was true then there would be no need for a access card at all
so why would people or Dave be buying up all the cards on Fleebay if one is not
needed anyways.


because if its hacked, people that want an easy fix by just changing or programming their cards will explode the market. whereas, people willing to dedicate a computer, get an emu card, or whatever, is a much smaller market.

regards

aj

[Soundguy]

Let the scamming begin. I believe the way we all know when a true h@ck is out several well known mods from here or elsewhere receive a sample of the h@ck.

hxxp://www.dishe3m.com/
LATEST DSS BUZZ
"dss p4 scripts, dss 3m scripts, p4 software Yes! We have P4 files for your P4 cards! Working with our partners, we have successfully hacked the P4 Cards!"


Man that site has been there for years with the same krap on it.

At least this thread is in the right section for krap !

[jamrock1]

THere is so much bullshit in this thread that you need rubber boots to wade through it all. All are speculations and nobody knows anything. Be very very sceptical of any P4 hacks unless someone with a rock solid reputation confirms its existance based on first hand experience.
mili
but Mili this is the bullshit thread, so you should be prepared and its in the right place.lol

[mdeven]

Yes but at least it's GOOD bullshit. :)
Anything that draws Mdeven and Budreaux out of the closet can't be bad, can it? Oh, for the glory days of Dave......

Good to see you, Mark, Buddy. Lots of memories here. ;)

Thanks man....
If this shit is coming from China, be prepared to have your equipment fouled by lead....;)
Mark

[spanky macdouga]

Thanks man....
If this shit is coming from China, be prepared to have your equipment fouled by lead....;)
Mark

ha! now that's funny!

[JT]

Let the scamming begin. I believe the way we all know when a true h@ck is out several well known mods from here or elsewhere receive a sample of the h@ck.

hxxp://www.dishe3m.com/
LATEST DSS BUZZ
"dss p4 scripts, dss 3m scripts, p4 software Yes! We have P4 files for your P4 cards! Working with our partners, we have successfully hacked the P4 Cards!"

Pretty darn sure that website is listed as a well known scam site at satscams.com.

[Soundguy]

This is the longest thread I have seen here in a while ! Lots of interest !

[asgard]

What if all the cams are going to china and installed in new fta type ird's that will get dave right out of the box??? now that would be worth a lot too someone.

[Fluffy]

I agree with a possible P4 Hack.
It explains why after just a very short period, Dtv swapped out the P4's for P5's.
It was during that time when General Motors was desperatly trying to sell Dtv to help meet Corporate Bond Holders Dividend and Retiree's Pension obligations. Rupert Murdach tried before to buy Dtv but failed. This time he wanted to pay less than he was willing before, and wanted the pirates gone. GM didn't have faith in NDS (the card maker) anymore. So they made the new cards (P5) themselves to get the sale of Dtv.

I think the P4 is more hackable then any other Dtv card. Question is, when a hack is made ready for the public, who's willing & brave to stick their head out to offer it?
I have a few cards ready in the drawer. When it comes to satellite equipment, I'm Fred Sanford of Sanford & Son. :) I keep everything because it seems to come back in style eventually!

Fluffy.

[Budreaux]

Yes but at least it's GOOD bullshit. :)
Anything that draws Mdeven and Budreaux out of the closet can't be bad, can it? Oh, for the glory days of Dave......

Good to see you, Mark, Buddy. Lots of memories here. ;)
Thanks man.... it is good to see some old faces, but I still miss the good ole days myself.

Magic Card days weren;t too bad.... it allowed me to get in some good arguements in with Hillybilly and his dad, Dig D....but even that didn;t match the fun we had of the DTV days.

I'll be checking in... I've actually been paying for my tv...yikes.. jsut too much going on to spend time on this right now... think I might get teh Enigma card soon though.

Budreaux

[Darkbob]

Lots of interesting ideas but very very few facts.

Actually the only fact is that a few people have started buying cards. Has anyone bothered to ask them WHY they are buyng cards?

I'd bet they are investing a few thousand dollars on spec. Worst case they are driving the market a bit higher and they can turn around and re-sell those same cards at a small profit. Best case a hack is released in a few months and they cash in big time.

--DB

[jocko50]

I would Guess if this is not bullshit any ways ,that it would have to do with a Aux Card share with FTA. Reason being is that FTA is Legal to Begin with(for now anyways). So you don't have to worry about selling hardware.(even if its for some type of new FTA box) If its going to work with exsting Fta boxes even Better for them. So next step is you need to sell Cards to everyone that doesn't have one.(that can be done under the radar). But what if only the cards they have will work with this new system? Like maybe they Clean them (because now they know how) and so everyone who has cards sitting in thier drawer will be useless anyways. Anyways im done shovelling for now!

[slenz]

if im not mistaken,i heard on the news that the fcc has pushed that date back from 2009 to 2012.

[buslady]

Hey guys, that is a pretty good rumor. Maybe we will have a good
Christmas. If you see a huge dust cloud rising, it's me dustingthem off!!!!

buslady

[Reabo]

Hey guys, that is a pretty good rumor. Maybe we will have a good
Christmas. If you see a huge dust cloud rising, it's me dustingthem off!!!!

buslady
Buslady, now that's a name from the past. How you doing,Darlin? Good to see your still kickin, lol......:cool:

[Dry]

Hey maybe EyE is back in town eh? Suplex

[Twostep]

Tainted with lead.....hehehehe :)

I'd say the FTA boys may be dipping their toes in Lake Dave since their Charlie days may be a bit rough in the days to come. Somebody's most likely speculating a little and buying up some cards. If nothing pans out they've lost a few thousand. If it does - they've made hundreds of thousands or more. I guess this is how you 'play cards' in the 21st century. And look at all the exposure Dooda got as a result - they gotta be lovin' it.

Don't get excited about some website hawking "Get yer P4 hack here". Geezus, I think I've said that maybe, oh, 500 times in the last 4 or 5 years..:rolleyes:

[mdeven]

Tainted with lead.....hehehehe :)

I'd say the FTA boys may be dipping their toes in Lake Dave since their Charlie days may be a bit rough in the days to come. Somebody's most likely speculating a little and buying up some cards. If nothing pans out they've lost a few thousand. If it does - they've made hundreds of thousands or more. I guess this is how you 'play cards' in the 21st century. And look at all the exposure Dooda got as a result - they gotta be lovin' it.

Don't get excited about some website hawking "Get yer P4 hack here". Geezus, I think I've said that maybe, oh, 500 times in the last 4 or 5 years..:rolleyes:

Couldn't agree any freakin' more!!!!
Anybody want to buy some old OJ football cards? :rolleyes:
Mark

[stubidass]

Couldn't agree any freakin' more!!!!
Anybody want to buy some old OJ football cards? :rolleyes:
Mark

I would buy those cards...but I'm afraid OJ would come and "jack" them from me.......Thanks for thread - made for an interesting read this afternoon.

[ge2]

As I understand this ... there is no dave hask. This is just very smart marketing trick. Nobody will send his card to him when they see such an add - everybody holds on them. But now every site tolks about dooda. He doesn't have to be a sponsor and pay for advertisement. He became famous in one night.

[jocko50]

And what about the guys on FLEA BAY buying as many cards as you have for at least the past 6 months? Same Guy????

[Doobiedog]

Did you ever really wonder why Dave went from his "Unhackable P4", to a P5, then to a new "D" series...?

Something tells me that there is a flaw in the "P" series, and Dave knows it....I intend to snach up ever "P" series I can get my hands on...!

[Budreaux]

P4, P5, and D cards are all basically the same card.
P4 and 5 were developed by NDS.... the D series were established because Dave developed their own card in-house..which was teh only way to to get around their contract with NDS.
This is old news and should be common knowledge by now.

[mrdon2]

Let the games begin, lady in my offices says to me this morning - "is it true?", had no idea what she was talking about, so then she says - "that the hack for DTV is out", I tell her that I haven't heard of anything that is legit or been verified, but she believes that its real, I warned her not to spend any money on anyone offering a card that's been programmed but I think her greedy ass will buy into it and then when it goes wrong come and ask me what to do. In the meantime gonna see if I can find out any more about it, who she heard is doing it, what is actually being done, how much etc.

[HJMcDuck]

I won't be getting rid of mine anytime soon. I've been around for a long time and seen many things happen. If someone is buying up all these cards, There's a reason for it.

[bumhead]

has dssdooda traded for anyones cards
how do u guy like my avatar

[aj7769]

i'm jonesing to etch some circuit boards.

seems this thread has died again, stuff.

i volunteer anyway i can, i'd love to be instrumental in the "hack". of course i'd instantly change my id. pm only please.

regards

aj

[A-Team]

My girlfriends asshole has the P4 hack in it and boy it's been takin' a lickin'.;)

[lefty]

My girlfriends asshole has the P4 hack in it and boy it's been takin' a lickin'.;)

Just a little too much information, there. lol!

[iczer01]

My girlfriends asshole has the P4 hack in it and boy it's been takin' a lickin'.;)

no wonder the P4 hack hasnt gone public

[slenz]

we'll be needing to check her ass and see if we can tweek the hack.

[mdeven]

That one's just a little too easy!
Let's try a bit harder to keep on subject, huh?
Mark

[Bushwackers]

That one's just a little too easy!
Let's try a bit harder to keep on subject, huh?
Mark

So???? Are you saying we should play hehehehehe.


Let me know!!!!!! You just may say!!! I Love You Bushwackers.......


BTW: I'm in the market for some P4/5's


BW

[llurkin]

And Bre-X had gold. Just ask any of the people that sunk their savings in that stock. Amazing what a little salting of a mine will do for you.. ;)

[aj7769]

and some guy said we were hijacking the thread when we talked about the ch*rlie card!

just checking in. again i'm down for anything i can offer for a hack, and, again PM only.

regards

aj

[ersatz]

So someone is buying p4 cards on fleecebay. Either it's DSSDOODA or some other dealer or possibly Dave. Would Dave really spend the money to buy the millions of cards out there? Wouldn't it be easier to send replacement p5 or D cards to their current subscribers than trying to buy all the P4?

I also remember the old dave days. Everyone was glitching the cards, but was there other testing methods like emu or atmega type products? The card always needs to be compromised before any other forms of testing can commence. At least this is what I have observed but I could be mistaken.