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MichaelT
11-14-2007, 09:09 AM
OK planning on playing with a DP311 and using a BGA card. As I did searches to find out what I had to do. I ran across a post where someone said you should unlock the chip before removing it from the board, is that true or does it matter?

Also I was under the inpression that if you put the chip on a BGA board thats all you had to, then I found another post said something about you have to rewire the onboard card reader. If that is the case Can someone point me in the right direction for wiring the card reader.

What is the lastest rom and rev that can be opened?

OK now my holy cow idea: if I were to leave the chip in the reciever and go the route of a passive interface card could you bypass using the actual interface card and run a wired connector to the back of the reciever and then mod my unlocker to hook up to the connector. I belive that part would work but would there be an issue with the wire length between reciever and unlocker. Also I'm only talking about 8" or less of wire. I could mount the connector ontop of reciever place unlocker ontop reciever maybe 4" of wire needed. I ask about wire lenght only because in my search I read a post and someone said not to mount passive interface card to far from chip. In the pictures I have where someone glued a passive interface card inside reciever looked like two inchs or so of wire but take in acount the card lenght thats about another four inches using about six inchs I'm guessing.

I realize putting chip on card would be easier on the programming side due to you take card to computer instead of reciever to computer. Just looking at what I already have, and I have plenty of connectors strips and plugs and wire I dont have any BGA or passive interface cards. I can see spending money on BGA card but not on a passive interface card.

thanks for any help

The Lizard King
11-14-2007, 03:05 PM
OK planning on playing with a DP311 and using a BGA card. As I did searches to find out what I had to do. I ran across a post where someone said you should unlock the chip before removing it from the board, is that true or does it matter?
There is a lower loop rate if you remove the icam first and then glitch it from a BGA wafer board.

Also I was under the inpression that if you put the chip on a BGA board thats all you had to, then I found another post said something about you have to rewire the onboard card reader. If that is the case Can someone point me in the right direction for wiring the card reader.
The cardslot is not activated, so, yes, you have to rewire the cardslot:

hxxp://digitalclinic.tv/tomek/instructions/default.asp

What is the lastest rom and rev that can be opened?
Rom 102 rev 289 (or earlier) can be glitched/unlocked, but rev 286 and earlier is best.

I have to ask why are you even bothering with trying to hack the 311? It's just an icam-version of the 301. Same SD IRD, for the most part. The 301s are MUCH easier to work on, since they already have a rom 102 card and the cardslot is already active.

TLK :cool:

MichaelT
11-14-2007, 03:51 PM
Because I have a 311 actually have 4 and never done one, I've already done a 301. Plus the fun part isn't watching tv its playing with the card and reciever. Im bored and its a new reciever (new to me not litarelly new). Something to play with. A change. Plus if I can find my unlocker and programmer it will not cost me anything except a BGA card if I go that route.

skinerd
11-14-2007, 04:19 PM
Because I have a 311 actually have 4 and never done one, I've already done a 301. Plus the fun part isn't watching tv its playing with the card and reciever. Im bored and its a new reciever (new to me not litarelly new). Something to play with. A change. Plus if I can find my unlocker and programmer it will not cost me anything except a BGA card if I go that route.


I have done a ton of 311s, have glitched on board, pulled chip and wired card slot, but most I pull chip and toss box.
Higher revs definately open easier on a BGA board, as that eliminates the wire length problem.
A 311 has to use it's own numbers, you can't have 4 311s up on the same numbers, well you can but that's another thread.

MichaelT
11-15-2007, 04:44 AM
I have one last question when removing chip from board with hot air are you guys using a hot air smd gun or got it from the parts store hot air gun for removing decals?

Also all 4 boxes are 102 rev 283

Just ordered blue nexus and programer and bga card witch sucks because I have lost over $700.00 in loaders unlockers and programers and that nexus unlocker II was bad ass. It seems every time I come back to play with recievers it cost me more money lol oh well hard earned money easly spent. I bet now that I bought new stuff I find my old stuff lol I thinks there's a Murpheis law about this one.

skinerd
11-15-2007, 04:58 AM
either or......I have a Wagner heat gun for removing wall paper, works fine. Gets plenty hot, just be careful not to melt away that you don't want melted.

MichaelT
11-15-2007, 05:34 AM
thanks skinerd you've helped me many times

Dnk
11-15-2007, 05:44 AM
I have a little burnzomatic butane 3n1 torch, and it is perfect for this stuff while using the heat gun attachment small effect zone and doesnt get too hot (unless you need but just use the torch then) either plus its mobile

skinerd
11-15-2007, 02:13 PM
I have popped 283s on board, but seems like they are much quicker to open on a BGA board. Like DVD says, use a rev 103/105 script, adjust pot for good responces, it will open.
I have an abundance of 301 boxes, so the 311s I do for myself go straight to trash. But I have done several for others that want to keep the box.

atony
01-31-2008, 03:49 AM
where do i get some how tos on the 311 s
i just order 3 BGA cards from milli
wut i dont know how to do this so iam looking for some how tos
the boxes are all rom 102s at rev 281
iam i newbee on this so i need all the help i can get
and how tos from removing ,to unlocking ,to programming
thanks

skinerd
01-31-2008, 04:02 AM
where do i get some how tos on the 311 s
i just order 3 BGA cards from milli
wut i dont know how to do this so iam looking for some how tos
the boxes are all rom 102s at rev 281
iam i newbee on this so i need all the help i can get
and how tos from removing ,to unlocking ,to programming
thanks

Do some seroius reading, there is more than a ton of 311 info.

A rev 281 could very well be a virgin chip, box never subbed, in which case it makes sense to pull chip, use a BGA and turn it into a rom 102 rev 103 and use in another receiver.

atony
01-31-2008, 04:39 AM
thanks
all i need now is the BGA cards from milli