does stl19 work at all

[day_tona2]

does stl work at all with card sharing sence it sends all the commands to the card?

[pecker88]

does stl work at all with card sharing sence it sends all the commands to the card?

have no clue WTF your trying to say but yes, st19 2.6.01 and 2.6.05 are working fine. Just no ppv/porn/premium

[MIKEHAWKISLARGE]

Many other channles are gone now to. some in the 200's i think all the 300's
i assume all will be gone soon

[day_tona2]

i thought the purpose of this program was it receves the command from the stream send the commands to the card and the card back to the recever with out a write to the card? if so only think that would needed to be done is the new changing bites would just half to be added into the st19 to alot it to change it? on the card? or the auxshare cor file?

Just trying to understand a little on how it works......

[IamBigFish]

Does this mean CEMU is having the same issues? Or is it just ST19?

[t160hq]

i thought the purpose of this program was it receves the command from the stream send the commands to the card and the card back to the recever with out a write to the card? if so only think that would needed to be done is the new changing bites would just half to be added into the st19 to alot it to change it? on the card? or the auxshare cor file?

Just trying to understand a little on how it works......
The aux card is just to supply info that map calls are looking for.

No program execution is carried out by the aux card. Think of it
as a memory card that the st19 program calls to get specfic data.

As to the ST19 program it is a emulator but is not a complete emulator.
It is designed to carry out commands that are currently in use by Di$h.
But not all commands. Many are not used or will never be
used.

So when charlie starts using a new command, a never used before command,
or changes the way a currently used command is excuted. The software has
to be changed to excute the command properly.

Programming the software for every way a command can be used is
just not a option. They can run into thousands of possibilities.

Plus this is not something that usually is easy to set up. This sort
of change can take charlie weeks or months to set up. This current
trouble is from the new 10c update to the cams. That update took
charlie months to set up. And allows him to change things on the
fly so to speak.

Even with this new ability it can still take two weeks or more to
set up the hit. Add to that the fact that parts of the OS of the card
are still unknown means in a lot of cases nothing can be done until
the hit is actually in progress. On the plus side more is learned
every time charlie does a hit. Which means the ST19 software becomes
more bullit proof every time he reveals a previously unknown operation.
Or uses a known command in a way that nobody knew could be done.

So until he runs out of tricks in his bag and everything that can be
done is known. A fully functional emulator cannot be coded.


t160hq

[pecker88]

The aux card is just to supply info that map calls are looking for.
No program execution is carried out by the aux card. Think of it
as a memory card that the st19 program calls to get specfic data.
As to the ST19 program it is a emulator but is not a complete emulator.
It is designed to carry out commands that are currently in use by Di$h.
But not all commands. Many are not used or will never be
used.

So when charlie starts using a new command, a never used before command,
or changes the way a currently used command is excuted. The software has
to be changed to excute the command properly.
Programming the software for every way a command can be used is
just not a option. They can run into thousands of possibilities.
Plus this is not something that usually is easy to set up. This sort
of change can take charlie weeks or months to set up. This current
trouble is from the new 10c update to the cams. That update took
charlie months to set up. And allows him to change things on the
fly so to speak.

Even with this new ability it can still take two weeks or more to
set up the hit. Add to that the fact that parts of the OS of the card
are still unknown means in a lot of cases nothing can be done until
the hit is actually in progress. On the plus side more is learned
every time charlie does a hit. Which means the ST19 software becomes
more bullit proof every time he reveals a previously unknown operation.
Or uses a known command in a way that nobody knew could be done.

So until he runs out of tricks in his bag and everything that can be
done is known. A fully functional emulator cannot be coded.

t160hq
great explination. Hopefully that will clear the air as to why emu is down.

[ruciz]

so even with a true auxed 102 card, ST is not up?

[mannybeef]

thats right, but it also means

that st19 will be back up !!!

[day_tona2]

ok But know with thos auxshare program where it does not require you to have the aux card couldent we emulate the card and have the program do fully writes to the cor file? so when somthing dish sends down to the sub people we get also writen to our cor? or is this stuff thats locked into the card witch we can't get and see.......

[ruciz]

ok But know with thos auxshare program where it does not require you to have the aux card couldent we emulate the card and have the program do fully writes to the cor file? so when somthing dish sends down to the sub people we get also writen to our cor? or is this stuff thats locked into the card witch we can't get and see.......
You explained exactly why ST19 don't work right now. So what was your question?

ST19 is an EMULATOR reliant on the ROM102 card cryptic functions. Auxshare by itself does not incorporate many of these functions, especially MAP related ones. It is coded in a way to accept known functions of the ST19 emulator. As more info is available on the ST19 processor functions the emulator can be updated to handle that particular situation.

[McLovin]

i think what he is asking is why are platforms like the Dreambox and Nfusion FTAs up with auxshare and why cant st19 perform like that with a locally auxed card.

[ruciz]

ST19 can, but it needs an update to do so. It may also be that perky's aux is also incompatible or needs work along with or instead of the ST19 program.

I don't keep up on FTA, but I presume a new/updated bin and/or IKS server was released for this to work with the new MAP.

[McLovin]

the last nufusion fta iks update was one week ago, about three days before the latest ecm.

since their system did not go down with the new ecm, are they passing along more card info through their iks than st19 does with a local aux?

[ruciz]

not more information, maybe just the right information.

Without source to either, all we can do is speculate.
You can put a network logger on the nfusion and see what exactly is being communicated.

[Ohms]

You can put a network logger on the nfusion and see what exactly is being communicated.

Good point. And so can anyone else in the line of transmission between you and the card server. And if you think proxys will save you, think again.

[joesnuffy]

ST19 is up and rolling. You might have to update your cor file.


Joe