New MECM killing us [Archive]

mili

12-06-2007, 06:49 AM

After last week's timer ECM Dish and BEV both paunched a new timer ECM. Without going into tech details (something I got no clue about anyway) it is now good bye PPV and Porn for both providers if you are using any kind of an emulator setup. I am sick of explaining what emulators are and if you got no real ROM102 card then by definition an emulator is what you got. WHen a fix is released it will nto be kept a secret, you will read about it right here. YES LEMMINGS YOUR FTA RECEIVERS ARE ALSO EMULATORS.
so try to stop begging for fixes and take it up the butt like the rest of us who use Atmegas, Enigmas, ST emus etc. etc....

mili

wasteospace

12-06-2007, 11:26 AM

What is a lemming? Does it get a decent picture?

Bushwackers

12-06-2007, 01:33 PM

What is a lemming? Does it get a decent picture?

It's in reference to you ROFLMAO

pecker88

12-06-2007, 05:11 PM

well, I'm using an emulator and getting everything...with an auxed rom that is!!!!! Isn't a Lemming also someone who runs out and buys the piece of hardware that has the fastest fix?? Like all the peeps who were told to buy enigma and usb atmega's??

mili

12-06-2007, 06:51 PM

Then you do have a fucking rom102 don't you?

mili

bored2def36

12-06-2007, 06:53 PM

Lemmings are them guys in a game that follow everything you do.. Best part about it is giving them a bomb and watching them walk into a group and explode :-P

bud02

12-06-2007, 06:56 PM

Point well made Mili they have us over a barrel with out plastic, and their reaching for one of snaggs big black toys LOL.

Bandit5906

12-06-2007, 06:58 PM

mili, you seem to have misplaced the Christmas spirit! Why not send the lemmings to another site where they can waste the bandwidth?

mannybeef

12-06-2007, 07:22 PM

lol, bud

pecker88

12-06-2007, 07:26 PM

Then you do have a fucking rom102 don't you?

mili

yeah, but its still an emu; a reliable emu!

greypower

12-06-2007, 10:39 PM

FTAs with auxed card should be capable of handling new mapcall, should they not?

newbee

12-06-2007, 10:40 PM

hey can anyone here tell me what the hell is going on with the coolsat 6100 private the last fix only lasted a few hours

BadMonkey

12-06-2007, 10:45 PM

hey can anyone here tell me what the hell is going on with the coolsat 6100 private the last fix only lasted a few hours Read the first post of this thread. It's in big bold letters.

nonamer66

12-06-2007, 11:22 PM

nfusion is running just fine on IKS. Channel changes may be slow but at least I have a picture vs the other boxes.

nevwar

12-06-2007, 11:36 PM

nfusion is running just fine on IKS. Channel changes may be slow but at least I have a picture vs the other boxes.

What is IKS ? .

nonamer66

12-06-2007, 11:49 PM

What is IKS ? .
IKS stands for Internet Key Sharing.

its a card server somewhere overseas so it requires your box to be connected to the net to receive all programming. When there is no stand alone fix for emulation then we switch to IKS as a backup.

jskey

12-06-2007, 11:50 PM

hey can anyone here tell me what the hell is going on with the coolsat 6100 private the last fix only lasted a few hours

Sure, I'll try to tell you what's going on.

IT'S NOT FUCKING WORKING LEMMING.

Also, IKS is nice way to give your address to Dish' attorneys for legal action. Oh, BTW you'll have TV until you receive the notice of legal action against you.

nonamer66

12-07-2007, 12:04 AM

Also, IKS is nice way to give your address to Dish' attorneys for legal action. Oh, BTW you'll have TV until you receive the notice of legal action against you.
fta haters like yourself can continue giving people that crazy line, but realisticly you have no standing. As if Dish/Bev would ever take the time to go after little guys like us by invading our privacy in a way that could get themselves in deep shit by rights organizations. If they were to do anything to IKS they would go after the head of the snake and thats the server itself or retailers selling these units. Be realistic and quit bashing something just because its not a rom102.

Take for instance a situation like this. Someone next door to you is feeding off your open wireless broadband connection to keep their nfusion box on IKS. If you say legal action will be taken on that person for accessing the iks server then who is really at fault. Exactly!!! Legal action could never be taken because they can't actually pin it on anyone.

zevon6666

12-07-2007, 12:08 AM

Anybody ever see that Vincent Price "Scream Scream and Scream Again".... LOL
Crap hits the fan and people cry - END OF FTA - END OF R102......
This is a joke - get the coders off their butts and the games on.

Z~

zevon6666

12-07-2007, 12:10 AM

fta haters like yourself can continue giving people that crazy line, but realisticly you have no standing. As if Dish/Bev would ever take the time to go after little guys like us by invading our privacy in a way that could get themselves in deep shit by rights organizations. If they were to do anything to IKS they would go after the head of the snake and thats the server itself or retailers selling these units. Be realistic and quit bashing something just because its not a rom102.

Take for instance a situation like this. Someone next door to you is feeding off your open wireless broadband connection to keep their nfusion box on IKS. If you say legal action will be taken on that person for accessing the iks server then who is really at fault. Exactly!!! Legal action could never be taken because they can't actually pin it on anyone.

And I wouldnt be surprised to see Bev Charlie and Mr Coolsat in Bed together.
It seems they are the only manufacturers who arent being sued at this given time.

Z~

old school

12-07-2007, 12:42 AM

Careful now, watch what you say... there's a lot of sensitive members on this site. If they don't get there fixes or their spoon feeding, they will lash out!

t160hq

12-07-2007, 01:13 AM

Take for instance a situation like this. Someone next door to you is feeding off your open wireless broadband connection to keep their nfusion box on IKS. If you say legal action will be taken on that person for accessing the iks server then who is really at fault. Exactly!!! Legal action could never be taken because they can't actually pin it on anyone.
And once they bust the neighbor with no sat dish it's a simple matter
of walking outside to see who is close enough and has a dish.

Course they may have to wait on a warrent. But in the meantime they will
check the IP's hooked up while they are waiting.

I don't think it's likely anyone using IKS will get busted. But to save a
FTA system or to save a few bucks on getting a standalone setup with
no chance of being detected is not worth any risk IMHO.

I'm not dissing FTA systems. Have one myself. But at some point you have
to cut your losses and move on. After all with the writers on strike there's
nothing worth watching anyways.

t160hq

garysam

12-07-2007, 01:21 AM

fta haters like yourself can continue giving people that crazy line, but realisticly you have no standing. As if Dish/Bev would ever take the time to go after little guys like us by invading our privacy in a way that could get themselves in deep shit by rights organizations. If they were to do anything to IKS they would go after the head of the snake and thats the server itself or retailers selling these units. Be realistic and quit bashing something just because its not a rom102.

Take for instance a situation like this. Someone next door to you is feeding off your open wireless broadband connection to keep their nfusion box on IKS. If you say legal action will be taken on that person for accessing the iks server then who is really at fault. Exactly!!! Legal action could never be taken because they can't actually pin it on anyone.

Well said. If that were to ever have happened, I'm sure we would all have heard about it by now. Kinda like Microsoft taking me to court for using a copied version of Windows ME.

spanga

12-07-2007, 01:34 AM

And once they bust the neighbor with no sat dish it's a simple matter
of walking outside to see who is close enough and has a dish.

Course they may have to wait on a warrent. But in the meantime they will
check the IP's hooked up while they are waiting.

I don't think it's likely anyone using IKS will get busted. But to save a
FTA system or to save a few bucks on getting a standalone setup with
no chance of being detected is not worth any risk IMHO.

I'm not dissing FTA systems. Have one myself. But at some point you have
to cut your losses and move on. After all with the writers on strike there's
nothing worth watching anyways.

t160hqa little naive there t160hq......i can access open wifi from like 2 miles away.....at the end of the day ip gives away nothing more than downloading files from any site......you're ip is out there

brjak

12-07-2007, 01:37 AM

From my understanding the server is off shore, and uses a sort of redirector..nothing is 100% safe..Bur i do think the chances of getting caught are less than .01%

jskey

12-07-2007, 01:53 AM

fta haters like yourself can continue giving people that crazy line, but realisticly you have no standing. As if Dish/Bev would ever take the time to go after little guys like us by invading our privacy in a way that could get themselves in deep shit by rights organizations. If they were to do anything to IKS they would go after the head of the snake and thats the server itself or retailers selling these units. Be realistic and quit bashing something just because its not a rom102.

Take for instance a situation like this. Someone next door to you is feeding off your open wireless broadband connection to keep their nfusion box on IKS. If you say legal action will be taken on that person for accessing the iks server then who is really at fault. Exactly!!! Legal action could never be taken because they can't actually pin it on anyone.

I recall my neighbor saying the same thing "invading our privacy" before Dave came after them hard and they finally settled for $10,000 rather than facing charges. My advise to you is, be careful what you advocate. IKS is NOT secure. Don't kid yourself. BTW guess what after they went after "everybody" retailers, developers, coders, end users That ended they days of Dave being hacked. Don't think they won't go after the end user and unless you live on "foreign" soil without estradiction or cooperation rights with the USA you are fair game.

mili

12-07-2007, 01:53 AM

Fab5 says he got the ECM figured. He is coding the software for the USB Atmega256 cards now.

mili

MIKEHAWKISLARGE

12-07-2007, 02:22 AM

Fab5 says he got the ECM figured. He is coding the software for the USB Atmega256 cards now.

mili

The only thing with that is how long will it last 1 day 2 or less

spanga

12-07-2007, 02:25 AM

I recall my neighbor saying the same thing "invading our privacy" before Dave came after them hard and they finally settled for $10,000 rather than facing charges. My advise to you is, be careful what you advocate. IKS is NOT secure. Don't kid yourself. BTW guess what after they went after "everybody" retailers, developers, coders, end users That ended they days of Dave being hacked. Don't think they won't go after the end user and unless you live on "foreign" soil without estradiction or cooperation rights with the USA you are fair game.ip is alot different than credit card numbers and mailing address....IKS can be just a secure as you posting and downloading files from here .....how many times does that have to be said for it to make sense.......GOOD NEWS about fab5 getting ready to go at it again.....respect

t160hq

12-07-2007, 02:42 AM

ip is alot different than credit card numbers and mailing address....IKS can be just a secure as you posting and downloading files from here .....how many times does that have to be said for it to make sense.......GOOD NEWS about fab5 getting ready to go at it again.....respect

Can be secure is ok.

I would sleep a lot better at night if I was using it and was told it is
secure.

t160hq

mili

12-07-2007, 02:44 AM

Yes you can use proxies to hide your IP and who knows how long it will be up.

mili

Crow 492

12-07-2007, 07:53 AM

Fta bin's are starting to come out once again. Keep your eye out in the file section here at milis for any updates for your receivers.

fLXO41pH

12-07-2007, 06:05 PM

Can be secure is ok.

I would sleep a lot better at night if I was using it and was told it is
secure.

Easy to make it relatively secure. Bang together a PC from old spare parts & throw a Linux distro on it. Set it up as your router, and chuck that Linksys brick in the closet. Install iptables, a proxy server, & Tor client. Proxy server redirects through the router's Tor client. IKS box has to go through the router to talk to the ouside world.

leeaman7777

12-07-2007, 06:09 PM

B€V's already changing things up.

Crow 492

12-07-2007, 07:36 PM

B€V's already changing things up.

Hope you ant talking to me Still have TV

Ohms

12-07-2007, 09:37 PM

Easy to make it relatively secure. Bang together a PC from old spare parts & throw a Linux distro on it. Set it up as your router, and chuck that Linksys brick in the closet. Install iptables, a proxy server, & Tor client. Proxy server redirects through the router's Tor client. IKS box has to go through the router to talk to the ouside world.

This is the first time I have actually heard someone come up with a secure way to do it. If you pipe it through the TOR network, your traffic will be obfuscated. Hard to say until someone tries whether or not the latency will be to great. Very good suggestion fLXO41pH!

brjak

12-07-2007, 09:42 PM

nfusion is up with stand alone bin..no IKS needed to watch tv.

spanga

12-07-2007, 09:58 PM

"nfusion is up with stand alone bin..no IKS needed to watch tv."
hmmmmm.....no sign of that being true anywheres yet that i can find.....without IKS only some dish channels here........the 141 bin is to turn your computer into PVR

leeaman7777

12-08-2007, 01:12 AM

Hope you ant talking to me Still have TV
Read that new MECM in the stream - just not activated yet.

spanky macdouga

12-08-2007, 01:19 AM

Read that new MECM in the stream - just not activated yet.

You're not telling us anything we don't already know. Dish will keep sending MECM's until the day they stop broadcasting.

12-08-2007, 02:01 AM

Read that new MECM in the stream - just not activated yet.

Bev has rolled out another new MECM60 today. Back to back new ECM's coming with Bev. If it works out for them, expect Charlie to follow suit.

Crow 492

12-08-2007, 02:36 AM

Bev has rolled out another new MECM60 today. Back to back new ECM's coming with Bev. If it works out for them, expect Charlie to follow suit.

Is it active Jt on the Bev side yet??

12-08-2007, 02:47 AM

Is it active Jt on the Bev side yet??

I'm not running Bev right now, so I can't say from first hand experience, but I have read there was a new MECM60 and that it was active for at least a few minutes earlier today. I don't think it's been implemented full on yet. The dump was posted over at CC.

jerry1

12-08-2007, 03:00 AM

I'm not running Bev right now, so I can't say from first hand experience, but I have read there was a new MECM60 and that it was active for at least a few minutes earlier today. I don't think it's been implemented full on yet. The dump was posted over at CC.
What's CC? :confused:
TIA..

badbrains

12-08-2007, 03:02 AM

What's CC? :confused:
TIA..

cardcoders dot com i believe

jarmster

12-08-2007, 03:10 AM

Back on the sub....Oh well....least im watchin tv for more then 3 hours.
I had to sacrafice a virgin 102 to get the image up and going. Sorry milli, i needed it more then you. :D

garysam

12-08-2007, 03:40 AM

My FTA (CW800S) grunted and groaned a few times this afternoon, but it's working great right now.

Crow 492

12-08-2007, 07:37 AM