St19 and d*** 811

[boatman00]

Hi:
Have been trying to get st19 with aux card running on a 811 receiver that has been running atmega, Have been working at this for a couple of days now and what-ever i try i cannot get the receiver # to show up on the acquiring sat screen, the Cam id shows but not the rec #. It will eventually acquire signal but all of the channels are either in red or green, whatever tiers i use. The cor file has been stream updated to 10c. am using a external max/mel flashed with 102-10b hex. This rec. doesnt use any different flash does it? Am not asking to be spoon fed, Just a little push in the right direction.
Thx.

[Mezlo]

I have the exact same setup on my 811 and might just have some info to solve your problem. I had put my 811 in the closet for just the reason you stated in your post. Couldn't get the 811 to boot with s#. Last night decided to play around again after 3 months or so. I got it up and running and this is how I did it. The instructions I had been using stated to leave the emu board out of the ird until the pc boots up then insert the max/mel into ird. When I did this it would never show the s#. Last night by accident I didn't do it in that sequence. I left the emu in the 811 and rebooted the pc. Because of the time involved for pc reboot the 811 came back with internal error because it could not read the info and therefore it did not recognize the chip. Normally I would have pulled and reinserted the max/mel board at this point. Instead after the pc completed booting up with st19 and I got the error message I left the max/mel board inserted and I hit ok on the 811 and that caused it to reboot itself. It then recoginized the s# and loaded correctly. I wanted to see if this was a fluke so I tried it again. It booted up with s# a second time. I went back to the original instruction method and it would not recoginize the s#. Went back the the above method and it booted up properly again.

Don't know if this will work for you but my 811 will boot up everytime now. Hope the above directions aren't confusing. Basically just leave the emu board in the 811 all the time and reboot the pc and when needed hit ok to reboot the ird without removing and re-inserting the max/mel board

[boatman00]

Thanks i am still working with it, I had changed flashes with the same results, What flash are you using?

[Mezlo]

the latest flashes at 10c and I am also using perky's 1.22 instead of 1.23

[boatman00]

Will download them and give it another try in the morning, Am about burned out with working on this today. will post results when i get to try the other flashes.
Thx.

[boatman00]

well tried it again this am. with the 10c flash and still have the same problems, Any way i boot the pc or rec. it still doesnt show a s# on the acquiring sat screen only the r#'s. am about ready to give up on this setup. Any other suggestions?
Thx.

[Mezlo]

The only other thing I can suggest is a real pain. I would take the cover off the 811 an make sure that the card slot and the max/mel are aligned up properly. You might have to shave a little off one side of the max/mel to get it aligned properlly. Sorry but that is all the suggestions I have

[sdeens]

you probably have a shorted card slot that is why the S# is NOT showing up...clean up all those contacts again and do a contintuity check on all those pins again....somethign went wrong when you re-activated the card slot in your cardless 811...

[boatman00]

I will pull the cover and check the alignment of the max/mel card, Dont think there is anything wrong with the card slot as it works fine with atmega.
Thx.

[cufarley]

I have a similar problem with a 301-010. We have almost identical setups. I am using:

External Ma&Mel with the 102-10b flash
st19xl 2.6.08
aux'ed 102 card

I can't for the life of me get around the red/green channels in the guide. Some people say it is a tier issue. I've tried updating the tiers with MR-tierworks, but with no joy. Updating the COR with the 10C patch gets me a "wrong card" nag. I think it might be a flash issue for both of us. Either a 102-10C max&mel or a bad TSOP NoRSA flash. Sorry I'm not much more help, but hopefully someone will notice a trend and figure it out.

[boatman00]

I finally gave up on the 811, pulled out a 4900, redid the .cor on the same disk to private, and it ran great. So i know all my setup is working, Will have to figure out why it wont work with the 811 later.

[boatman00]

Still working with this 811, Anyone know best place to get the 5v to the cardslot for vcc?. Or should i try a external 5v to run the external max/mel?
Thx

[ruciz]

take your IRD and plug it into the wall.
Short your one lead to ground, and with your postive lead probe some caps until you hit a 5V line.
Now turn on your IRD and see if you still have 5V. It shouldn't flicker at all, if it drops momentarily while powering up find another point.

Be careful not to short or bridge anything while doing this.. fat leads are NOT suggested, but caution is.

[boatman00]

I guess the more i research and study this the more confused i become, Here is my question, The external emu i am using is a 2 chip i built, I used an interface card to go into the ird. I assumed the 5v from the cardslot vcc powers the emu is this correct? Is there anything different about the interface card wiring and wiring to the cardslot for an internal? sorry for so many questions, just trying to understand.
Thx

[yomamma]

I got my 811 running a few days ago... using current 10c flash, two chip 1489-2313. I used pathfinders guide to the 811 to allow leaving the cam onboard, and used a 16 pin dip socket as the header to the board, so can put another 16 pin dip over it with 4 jumpers to reconnect the onboard cam, or another 16 pin socket wired to a piece of an avr board to program the onboard cam with an iso, or to glitch it initially with a kickass clone modified loader.

made up another 16 pin socket with the three wires going to the internal emu board. data was already on the added mobo socket, and added wires to the clock and reset lines to extra pins that were available. (per the 811 internal socket activation mod article)

so now, can still get to the onboard cam if want to program or play with it, or can do internal emu, without any soldering.

word to the wise is that if you did the pathfinder mods, three of the four jumpers normally used to reactivate have to be connected for the emu to work, the one that does not get connected is the one that re enables power to the cam - which shows as a cut trace on the 811 card slot activation instructions. once adding these three jumpers, mine then took off and worked perfectly. no cam id with emu running without these jumpers installed.

I have no wiring to the internal card slot, but could just use another dip socket with three jumpers, then three wires to data, reset, and clock on the card slot, and have that available too.

read the 811 bin's numbers with gen8, and wrote those to the st19 cor file to make private, and clicked on sk. all still running fine as of today.

[T_Tronix]

Where can I find all the info regarding using 811? I got the 4700 but wanted to play with HD as well...

[Mezlo]

The 811 gets very few hd channels now since most have migrated to mpeg4. Not even sure if it gets any at all. I still use mine as a regular ird because it is setup and running. I bought a sonicview sv8000 fta ird and get all mpeg4 hd on both providers. If you want HD you will need to look at another solution such as this.

[boatman00]

Yeah, I finally gave up on the 811 and went exactly the same route you did with the SV8000.

[qrubim]

did you guys get the sv8000 modded or did you do the mod yourself?
Just asking because I may end up using that option if we never get a real IRd going with HD.

[Mezlo]

I bought a version 1 sv8000 and a clone board for decoding HD. There are 2 boards needed that are plug and play in this setup. Took about 10 mins to open and install. Very easy. You can buy them already installed if you don't want to do it yourself, but anyone can do it. Fixes are very quick, Usually the first to be releasd. Of course this is not all the time, but always very quick. I still use plastic and a st19xl setup, but love my sv8000 for HD. Very easy solution and it has been very reliable. Got my setup off fleabay. The version that you will get now comes with an internal fan to keep the heat down. Some had a problem with heat on the version I have. I have read of no complaints with the version 2 model.