Lights out on Dish and BEV

[mili]

Most all channels are black for Dish and BEV on any emulator system that has no ROM102 card present except the USB Atmega 256 cards (http://www.dssftp.com/xcart/product.php?productid=120&cat=0&page=1). That includes the Enigma cards, the regular Atmega 128 and/256 cards, ST and CEMU emulator systems (without AUX cards), all FTA recievers except card sharing ones. To add a cherry on top they also changed the key rolling algorythms so ROM102 cards with public and some private blockers need manual key updates. DVB cards are currently working only because they use teh PC's brute force to decrypt the signal. It seems that is why FTA coders did not implement that software into their respective set top boxes yet. Simply no horse power it seems to do the massive calculations needed and still provide menu and other functions. A PC with a 3+MHz processor can cut it but only barely. If the providers hash more bytes even a PC can't keep up with the task. All of you who say I am only bashing and predicting the demise of FTA kiss my ass. If the USB Atmega 256 cards are working it is possible for any FTA to work too IF the coders for them have the skill and knowledge to code for it. So if you wanna post here about my anti-FTA posts and Magic and AVR-X cards do us all a favor and don't. I will ban your ass in a heart beat. Instead tell your favorite FTA coder to release the fix which clearly is possible. With most emus out of the way you can expect a nice loop attack before new year on ROM cards curtesy of your friendly SI people with mean spirit. With all that being said USB Atmega 256 cards (http://www.dssftp.com/xcart/product.php?productid=120&cat=0&page=1)are wide open on both Dishnet and BEV without freeze at this time. Supplies are shaky so order yours today. At $89 a pop you wont find a better device to be safe from a loop attack and still get TV.

mili

[pookie]

Thanks Mili for the update. I have not messed with any cards in a long time, Is their a certain receiver you have to use to run the atmega 256 cards, I have not used a card since the the old I think it was rom 10' and rom 3's or something, it has been so long I can not even remember . I am now using a dvb card and have been for a while, I am thinking about getting me something different for a backup. I have 2 questions about that though, the first questions is the dvb cards and the atmega 256 usually up or down at the same times or not neccessarily. please tell me what you think I should use for a back for my dvb card. the other question I have is what is everyone using to get the dvb card up. I tried the new emmunation 3.0.0.5 and it did not bring in anything but the basics so I thought I would ask what is working with dvb, is it the new v plug or the emmunation. I did just think of something, I tried that new emmunation last night and when I checked it after i downloaded 3.0.0.5 it was not working but I forgot that it has been taking a little bit for it to take the update so let me go check it again. Thanks for your help

[mili]

All receivers that work with ROM102 cards work with the USB Atmega 256 cards. You treat them like a normal ROM card as far as tier editing goes. Please read Fubr's new How To at http://www.dssftp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75023 vplug works for DVBN for now. Please discuss them in a separate on top thread not here.

mili

[pookie]

ok, thanks for your help, sorry about that, I thought it was ok to talk about it since I was also talking about the atmega 256 but I did not know so please forgive me. I do not post a lot and I really do not know a lot about posting but if I am going to be posting often I will read up on it, again thanks for your help

[leeaman7777]

Most all channels are black for Dish and BEV on any emulator system that has no ROM102 card present except the USB Atmega 256 cards (http://www.dssftp.com/xcart/product.php?productid=120&cat=0&page=1). That includes the Enigma cards, the regular Atmega 128 and/256 cards, ST and CEMU emulator systems (without AUX cards), all FTA recievers except card sharing ones. To add a cherry on top they also changed the key rolling algorythms so ROM102 cards with public and some private blockers need manual key updates. DVB cards are currently working only because they use teh PC's brute force to decrypt the signal. It seems that is why FTA coders did not implement that software into their respective set top boxes yet. Simply no horse power it seems to do the massive calculations needed and still provide menu and other functions. A PC with a 3+MHz processor can cut it but only barely. If the providers hash more bytes even a PC can't keep up with the task. All of you who say I am only bashing and predicting the demise of FTA kiss my ass. If the USB Atmega 256 cards are working it is possible for any FTA to work too IF the coders for them have the skill and knowledge to code for it. So if you wanna post here about my anti-FTA posts and Magic and AVR-X cards do us all a favor and don't. I will ban your ass in a heart beat. Instead tell your favorite FTA coder to release the fix which clearly is possible. With most emus out of the way you can expect a nice loop attack before new year on ROM cards curtesy of your friendly SI people with mean spirit. With all that being said USB Atmega 256 cards (http://www.dssftp.com/xcart/product.php?productid=120&cat=0&page=1)are wide open on both Dishnet and BEV without freeze at this time. Supplies are shaky so order yours today. At $89 a pop you wont find a better device to be safe from a loop attack and still get TV.

mili I didn't think Sonicview FTA STB had a "3+MHz processor". Seems like a 256 MHz processor will do just fine but probably just barely right???

[Beavervillain]

My computer is not a 3MHZ processor either but I believe what Milli says does ring true. The providers and starting to throw multiple algorythms at he same time and learning how to use their encryption system to its fullest. And because they have the processor built right in their system, be it a rom 102/103 card or a imbedded chip in the reciever. And since a FTA box does not have this chip a table has to be built and code has to be written to mirror the function of the map calls as they are created. And sooner or later a lot of FTA boxes on the market just won't have the ablity to handle the space requirements for the fixes as well as complete the handling of the encoded data in a timely manner(Micro secs in most cases is required). And a sad fact is All good things come to an end. So enjoy the ride for as long as it lasts. Could be today or it could be years away, Time will tell. So I guess its Happy Holidays in the mean time

[gallo55]

You have no idea what your talking about. Two fta's are up right now. The reason we have been down for the last couple of days it that the real programers are pissed at fta guys and have been holding the source code. That has ended and they have RELEASEd the code.

I would not buy a fta right now and if you're thinking on getting anything
Fab5 has this thing working great right now. Get a card from Milli and support this site and Fab5

[Crow 492]

Temp fix still for FTA units give them some time they will get it under controll.

C & P

Here is the SV4000_V0185P Charlie & Beverly ECM freeze FIXED for SONICVIEW SV-4000, we are still working on for more stable full solution, thank you for your being patient. Sorry about the freeze, we just don't feel right for you to staring at the black screen during the holiday while we are working on a more stable full solution. Temp fixed might only last for hours/days, but you have something to test on and it showing that we are constantly working in the background around the clock.
We don't talk or promises, we just deliver. Happy holiday to all, now we can take a little time off to do last minute Christmas shopping .
enjoy

[Beavervillain]

You have no idea what your talking about. Two fta's are up right now. The reason we have been down for the last couple of days it that the real programers are pissed at fta guys and have been holding the source code. That has ended and they have RELEASEd the code.

I would not buy a fta right now and if you're thinking on getting anything
Fab5 has this thing working great right now. Get a card from Milli and support this site and Fab5

Thats pretty Bold talk. Sounds as if you may know one of the real programmers yourself. Or maybe you know some guy who knows one. And I am not sure if you are responding to me or the post over mine where someone is merely stating that he was up with a fix for his box with a little sarcaism.
In any event I did not claim to know everything or anything for that matter. I was merely stating my opinion.

I do know however that,
I don't own a FTA box, i mainly use a DVB platform. And except for the MAP57 fix that Viewsat alledgedly payed for the FTA community has been relying on the DVB coders to release their(DVB) open source fixes and have their(FTA) coders write fixes for their(FTA) hardware. It has been like clock work in the past few weeks. Hours after Emunation release a fix the FTA fixes start poping up. I know this because I load FTA boxes for frends that are just looking for TV and can't handle the completity of a DVB setup.
Power to them all I hope coders continue to support the FTA stbs. Really why should anyone have a monopoly on hacking sat tv. The whole point is to stick to the man isn't it
I do keep a rom102 handy however and should the DVB system I have become obsolete I would go to milli first for anything i needed. Cause everything becomes obsolete sooner or later. I got a whole drawer of it with h cards, hu cards, loaders, unloopers, bootloaders and whatnot. Its the journey I enjoy not the destination.

[hammer2002]

Sonicview fixes were released on TotalFTA. I got spanked at Al7bar for touting my USB Atmega's. My Viewsats are shelved for now. I was literally about to buy a Sonicview HD FTA when all this shit hit the fan. I do think that the FTA companies won't give up because of the revenue to be had, but you have to wonder why it is taking so long for a fix. Again, with multiple testing platforms one doesn't need to be in the dark.

Hammer

[Crow 492]

FTA will be all back up soon so just chill

[gallo55]

Beavervillain (http://www.dssftp.com/forum/member.php?u=44727) I don't own a FTA box, i mainly use a DVB platform.

Then you should know who fixes the DVB-S for you these are the guys everyone is waiting on for the open source.

[spanky macdouga]

FTA will be all back up soon so just chill

and crow's word is golden IMHO. I'm being totally sincere.

[Beavervillain]

I know what site that they use.
I don't want to start a mudslinging event here so I will be to the point.
You said that the reason FTA was in the dark was because the coders were pissed at the FTA guys. I find this to be an untrue statement. The reason is because they did not have an offical realease ready. Most if not all DVB users were getting some TV with a fix posted by a member who wrote a temp workaround into an older version of emunation(3.0.0.2). which worked fine except some minor freezing until the offical one was released. Now FTA didn't get fixes because when the member who released the fix did not release his source file.
Thats another thing i like about DVB. there is no pissing contest the authors expect and understand that FTA manufactures will take the source and use it to their advantage. As I am sure that Charlie and Bev use it to. But what they don't like and have threaten to pull the plug over is people demanding fixes.

[Sulten]

All i want for x-mas is a box with a build in USB256 already done. and all i have to do is use a program on it, i dont want to mess with alll the time of soldering or anything.

so where can i get a box already done from santa?

[spanky macdouga]

All i want for x-mas is a box with a build in USB256 already done. and all i have to do is use a program on it, i dont want to mess with alll the time of soldering or anything.

so where can i get a box already done from santa?

that's an interesting proposal for santa's elves

[tinhorse7911]

FTA will be all back up soon so just chill
This is a rough one with the hash timer involved & capability of changing within seconds

[Fr33TVr]

This is a rough one with the hash timer involved & capability of changing within secondsLOL im sure he knows this.

[tinhorse7911]

LOL im sure he knows this.
How sure my friend??
Do u see any fixes out there (besides sonicview)the minute viewsat releases b7v is ready. I know Crow is a good guy BUT there is ONLY SPECULATION of a permanent fix, lol, of course coders will say their close but soooo is christmas lmao, they want sales!!

[mili]

New timer hash is in the works, expect a good day or two uptime on FTA.

mili

[tinhorse7911]

New timer hash is in the works, expect a good day or two uptime on FTA.

mili
Mili your being a tease you arse. We havent had more then 4 hours, so stop it with ur promises of a day or 2 lol.

[greektycoon]

Mili your being a tease you arse. We havent had more then 4 hours, so stop it with ur promises of a day or 2 lol. lol ................:D

[fxsp]

:cool: :D :D :D Can you say Sonic View, well sorry mili. But wide open on FTA...................Oh ya! MERRY CHRISTMAS to all, and a special thanks to all the coders

[tinhorse7911]

:cool: :D :D :D Can you say Sonic View, well sorry mili. But wide open on FTA...................Oh ya! MERRY CHRISTMAS to all, and a special thanks to all the coders
enjoy tonight my friend, will u be saying the same thing in the morning??

[greektycoon]

enjoy tonight my friend, will u be saying the same thing in the morning??:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :eek:

[fxsp]

Good morning ya now my Ultra is wide open................................Thanks

[mili]

You FTA fanatics are truly retarded. You come here to brag that your shitbox is open after an 8 day downtime? Wow what a fucking performance.

mili

[HCCAfan]

i agree somewhat with u mili, kinda like they did something for the cause, eh? however u do bring it on when you post "sky is falling" kinda stuff, like the end of fta. I think we both can agree that fta will try to be around as long as it can, with the money and resources it has backing the support, it might be awhile before fta is fully outta the game. Thats more than anyone can say for other testing devices like the armulator and such..

[tvdick]

well put HCCAfan, soon there will be a post the world is end from mili

[natalian]

You FTA fanatics are truly retarded. You come here to brag that your shitbox is open after an 8 day downtime? Wow what a fucking performance.

mili
HAHAHA this is goodone Mili

[fxsp]

Just Stirring The Pot Milli just like you do, but I to have other testing methods I use. That's why its called testing and not free all the time t.v.
Thanks! fxsp:D

[asclc9]

I have Armulator. Do you think this is it for Armulator

[fxsp]

I don't believe so, just look at ATmegas. A lot of people thought they were dead. e.g Ice scrappers, doorstops. book weights.........
It all depends on the coders.
Keep the faith alive.
fxsp

[asclc9]

I don't believe so, just look at ATmegas. A lot of people thought they were dead. e.g Ice scrappers, doorstops. book weights.........
It all depends on the coders.
Keep the faith alive.
fxsp

I am New with all of this so don't quite understand all of the "Lingo" Is there anything for the Armulator yet. Big UFC Saturday Night!!

[LocoMex]

THREE DAYS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everything is up and wide open on most all FTA's.

YESTERDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Opps, everything down again. That's OK though because the more they do this, the closer we come to a full permanent fix. Be patient, we'll have a new fix in a couple more days.

This pattern seems to be repeating itself. How long will this bleeding continue??? If you own a FTA like I do, it might be time to consider an alternative testing method. I think the days of four and five months of hands free operation for FTA is history. Hopefully not, but if the thought has not slapped you upside the head yet, it probably never will. Long live FTA and plastic.

[natalian]

THREE DAYS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everything is up and wide open on most all FTA's.

YESTERDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Opps, everything down again. That's OK though because the more they do this, the closer we come to a full permanent fix. Be patient, we'll have a new fix in a couple more days.

This pattern seems to be repeating itself. How long will this bleeding continue??? If you own a FTA like I do, it might be time to consider an alternative testing method. I think the days of four and five months of hands free operation for FTA is history. Hopefully not, but if the thought has not slapped you upside the head yet, it probably never will. Long live FTA and plastic.
full permanent fix lol.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

[trew]

y a tu quelque chose dans coolsat qui fontionne

[greektycoon]

You FTA fanatics are truly retarded. You come here to brag that your shitbox is open after an 8 day downtime? Wow what a fucking performance.

mili lmao mili who lafing now as of today . i love my 102 . not a glitch from the bitch lol .

[ceelo]

You know I am the last person to ever comment on these threads....but I read a lot and I enjoy everything that goes on in these threads...... personally I use FTA....as someone mentioned above its easy....and I see how there could a grudge could arise between ppl who go through the time consuming effort of coding cards vs the punks like me who wait around like vultures to eat the scrap of someone elses hard work...but I think why some ppl stay faithful or 'fantical' with fta is because the other testing is hard...and there are some really helpful ppl out there but there is also a lot of ppl who become very annoyed with question that are asked, that for some are easy and for others just does not compute...some ppl become real p*icks...so we result to the easy ways...so that we can escape the segragation of the real coders...I would love to try plastic but I have been treated harshly some times....but its all good...this isn't for everyone...at the end of the day its all about the journey...we are all in it for one common goal...just different ways...but as long as there is a sat signal...a computer and a code there will always be piracy!!!!!!!!

[ceelo]

man I should have proof read that before I submited it...sorry for the grammer errors guys..!