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four_sexta
01-30-2008, 11:37 PM
I have a 33" dish pointed at 119 with a 2800 receiver. The signal strength is about 115. However, I replaced the lnb that's used to catch 119, with the new lnb (10 750 circluar lnb) that's used to catch 118.7. Why is it that I can only get 118.7 and not 119 at the same time, with the new 10 750 lnb?

Thanks

Crazy1_79
01-31-2008, 12:07 AM
maybe because the dish is not intended to get them both at the same time, I have actually never seen anyone who wanted to hit the 118,

four_sexta
01-31-2008, 02:04 AM
The dish has nothing to do with it. The lnb is supposed to catch 119 & 118.7 at the same time. Is there a setting on the receiver for it to catch 119 & 118.7 at the same time, with the same lnb?

Bandit5906
01-31-2008, 02:21 AM
Beats me? I know I need to get sat 118.5, but will be interested to see how this shakes down.

Dave411
01-31-2008, 02:58 AM
I don`t have one of those lnbs, but is there just one output? Are you running FTA or a DN receiver. I`m thinking there must be an internal switch if only one output. On a FTA, would need to set up the different sats in the setup, like 118 - 22k on, 119 - 22k off. Maybe???

Dave411
01-31-2008, 03:07 AM
One other thought: might be able to do something with the frequencies if running FTA since 118 is FSS and 119 is DBS.

lumps
01-31-2008, 03:41 AM
did you try checking the alternative and the superdish checkmarks before checking switch? and theres a newer lnb out that outputs regular 11 something khz frequencies that hits both 119 and 118 that i will probably buy and try.

Crazy1_79
01-31-2008, 04:18 AM
yeah what receiver and what switch are you using?

four_sexta
01-31-2008, 12:21 PM
I'm not using FTA, I'm using a Rom 102 with a 2800 DN receiver. The dealer who sold me this lnb said that this lnb would catch 118 & 119 and asked if I prefered a dual or a single lnb. I opted for the dual since I have 2 receivers.

Anymore feedback would be greatly appreciated.

lumps
01-31-2008, 01:30 PM
are you using any switches with that lnb?

lumps
01-31-2008, 01:37 PM
oh ... and does your dish also skew...? did you try to skew your dish???

four_sexta
02-01-2008, 12:53 AM
I'm not using any switches because I'm not connecting any other dishes to my receiver. I just have a wire coming from this lnb, straight to my receiver. No, my dish doesn't skew; I have a regular 33" dish.

Bandit5906
02-01-2008, 12:58 AM
A Dish Pro is in order which will skew for you!

peter15632
02-01-2008, 01:53 AM
the reason why it doesnt work is because you have a legacy receiver, like a 2700 receiver. the real purpose of your lnb is for the fta receiver. you might try to use a 301 or 501 to get the dp channels. if you got a 301 and try it and let us know how it works. just a note, a legacy twin lnb will work with your 2700 and a sw21 switch for the 148 or 61.5 but with a dp lnb willl only get you one satellite and not both

Bandit5906
02-01-2008, 03:59 AM
A Dish Pro adaptor would help the 2800!

lumps
02-01-2008, 07:32 AM
i beleive that the lnb that he bought.. probably from ebay.. specifically only allows legacy switches and no dishpro switches or adapters. I think his problem is, is that he has no skew on his dish because the lnb was ment to replace the lnb on the 121 superdish which also had 110 on it... and i dont htink you can expect to hit 2 birds without skewing your dish, just like you cant hit 110 and 119 wihtout a skewed dish.. or different lnb levels....

I would say to try to rotate the lnb if you cant rotate the dish...

EDIT: once i finish tweaking my starchoice eliptical mod to hit the dish correctly.. im going to buy the new and "improved" hifast cb2008a lnb's and try it on my setup with a 508 and ill let you know. I hit 121 perfectly fine with a seperate lnb hooked up to a sw21 with 119.. and that worked fine.. but this lnb seems like its just pro-fta

Bandit5906
02-01-2008, 08:45 AM
I agree that he needs to skew the dish, but the 2800 still need the dish Pro adaptor to make the LNB work.

lumps
02-01-2008, 09:01 AM
i dont think the cb2008a lnb is a dishpro lnb tho... its a legacy lnb

jeston
02-01-2008, 09:29 AM
you need a dish that skews and a 34 or 44 switch, you will then have to run a line from each port on the lnb to the switch then from the switch to you recvr.

four_sexta
02-01-2008, 12:11 PM
I would like to thank everyone for their informative feedback. I don't think the reason I'm not catching 118.7 & 119 at the same time is because I have a legacy receiver, although I may be wrong. I don't have a 301 or a 501 receiver to verify this. This is the lnb that I'm using. (Replace xx with tt)

hxxp://transatelectronics.com/store/118%C2%B0-circular-10750-dual-lnb_P272?gclid=CPHA78eqrY8CFQpJYQodVX-sPQ

I believe it's a legacy lnb.

Thanks, guys

Bandit5906
02-01-2008, 12:43 PM
That LNB works fine with my 301.010!

Dave411
02-01-2008, 07:24 PM
I would like to thank everyone for their informative feedback. I don't think the reason I'm not catching 118.7 & 119 at the same time is because I have a legacy receiver, although I may be wrong. I don't have a 301 or a 501 receiver to verify this. This is the lnb that I'm using. (Replace xx with tt)

hxxp://transatelectronics.com/store/118%C2%B0-circular-10750-dual-lnb_P272?gclid=CPHA78eqrY8CFQpJYQodVX-sPQ

I believe it's a legacy lnb.

Thanks, guys
I think I will order one of those LNBs, but I`ll set mine up with a SW64 since I run 4 receivers. Thanks for the info on the lnb.

I think you have done everything correctly. I can see how an FTA receiver could get both sats, but just don`t believe an actual DN receiver can with one lnb. When the 2800 sees the default frequency for the 118 sat, it will only see that 118 sat at 10750, but not see the 119 sat at 11250. I would put up a dish500 with legacy twin lnb, then combine the 118 sat and 110/119 feed with a SW21.

jeston
02-02-2008, 02:09 AM
what you need is a 34 switch. you have to run a line from the 1f port and 2d port. the 1f port is the 118.7the 2d port is 119 you have to run to a 34 switch then to your recievr. you will get both sats then. ther is also brackets that mount to either side to get the 110 & 129 sats also. it will work on your recvr if you get a 34 switch you will also need a super dish or a new 1k.2 dish

four_sexta
02-02-2008, 01:36 PM
I would like to thank everyone for the great feedback and the willingness to help. I'm going to re-install my 20", that was pointing to 119, which I had removed thinking that my 33" inch dish, along with the new lnb, would catch 119 & 118, at the same time. I guess I was wrong and so I will have to, once again, install my other dish for the 119 sat.

Thanks to everyone again!

Cheers

bhc123us
02-24-2008, 04:01 AM
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this is what I got.

i am using superdish with 301.

I replace the LNB that gets 21 & 119 with this one but I am only getting 118 and 110!

I sqewed the LNB 1/4"

any help please

lumps
02-24-2008, 04:07 AM
are u using it with a dp34?

bhc123us
02-24-2008, 09:34 AM
yes, I am using a dp34

if I choose superdish and alternative in setting, only 110 and 118 shows up but yet I cannot get signal strengt for 118!:confused:

lumps
02-24-2008, 09:42 AM
its because the lnb is legacy.. it says on thepage you cant use dish pro switches...

bhc123us
02-24-2008, 04:08 PM
That LNB works fine with my 301.010!

Bandit, what is your dish setup?

Lumps, thanks for insight there!

So guys, what can I use?

I have a superdish, a dish300, dish500, dp34 sw, sw21 and oh, that 118 LNB.

What combination can I use?:)

lumps
02-24-2008, 06:07 PM
just try it with the sw21 with the 110 in one input and the CB2008A lnb (118 & 119) in the other switch input

bhc123us
02-24-2008, 11:15 PM
Thanks Lumps!

I will try it and let you know how it goes

bhc123us
02-25-2008, 03:23 PM
I should know...dp110 will not work with sw21 (dp301 recvr) :-)

I used the dish500 and the CB2008A LNB (from the Superdish) into a sw 21 and bingo! got them ALL!!!

Thanks guys a million!!!

lumps
02-25-2008, 07:19 PM
damn.. i just hooked mine up last night and all i got was 118 and 110 with a sw21... damn.. maybe i will switch around the switch inputs

kala
04-21-2008, 05:29 AM
I have 510dvr w/32" dish w/o skew & have this same LNB that has two out puts. for 118.8/119

I've tried my best but I can't get more than 50-52% signal on any transponder & when I do the switch check it doesn't detect any sat.

but with the FTA receiver i get good signal.

For now I'm not putting any switch(sw21 or dp34 etc..)

What could be my problem?

amitsekhon
04-21-2008, 07:32 AM
I have 301.10 rec and i am getting all 3 sats using 2 dishes.One is dish500 with 110 and 119 and other is 33" for 118.I connected 110 and 118 to sw21X and then 119 to SW21 and then did check switch selecting superdish.

bigj91
05-02-2008, 04:25 AM
the way i got mine to work was to unplug all coax cables from my dp34 then run a check switch, after it runs you will get the message, then run check switch with just the reciver reciever hooked up, then follow the normal procedures for alligning.