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smilingjack
02-14-2008, 07:55 PM
st19xl-2.6.26

THIS NEED A 102 CARD
IN THE FILES SHOP

By: Pierre G. Martineau
pgm@usa.net


Disclaimer
==========

I do not accept responsibility for any effects, adverse or otherwise,
that this programme may have on you, your computer, your sanity, your
dog, and anything else that you may think of. Use it at your own
risk. You have been duly warned

This software is intended for educational purposes ONLY!


History:
========

V2.6.26 - 02/14/2008 - Happy St-Valentines day!
V2.6.24 - 02/12/2008 - A few more refinements
V2.6.21 - 02/04/2008 - Fixed another minor bug.
V2.6.19 - 01/29/2008 - Fixed the serial I/O booboo from the last
release.
V2.6.17 - 01/24/2008 - The remodel isn't over yet.
V2.6.14 - 12/27/2007 - Still a work in progress...
V2.6.09 - 12/15/2007 - A work in progress. Many minor corrections.
More to come when time permits.
V2.6.08 - 12/05/2007 - The reset bug *SHOULD* be fixed this time!
V2.6.06 - 12/02/2007 - Hopefully the reset bug that was introduced
in the last release is fixed.
V2.6.05 - 11/23/2007 - Happy Turkey days!!!
V2.6.01 - 10/31/2007 - Happy Halloween!!!
V2.6.00 - 10/28/2007 - Major re-structuring of code to improve
performance and enhance stability. May have
broken some things that use to work!

eyeless
02-14-2008, 08:11 PM
Nice! Thanks PGM!

lattman
02-15-2008, 02:30 AM
Is this up on B3V?

badbrains
02-15-2008, 02:49 AM
Is this up on B3V?

Yes, but you must be using a real auxed card for it to function.

satsatsat
02-15-2008, 03:15 AM
What is the diff between this and 2.6.24? 24 seems to work fine.

ruciz
02-15-2008, 03:24 AM
I think its just a reason to release a verson on all holidays (halloween, thanksgiving, valentine day.. lol) Either way more development is always good development.
PGM claimed to Fix an obsecure bug. No clue what bug, I don't recall seeing a single post on any bugs with his .24 software.

OverEasy
02-15-2008, 03:41 AM
I think Bev was down with ST19 so I would say it's a fix for Bev.

1high4by
02-15-2008, 03:51 AM
is st 19 dish still down?

sledmanjones
02-15-2008, 04:00 AM
B*v wasn't down at my house.I think I'm still running .19 revision,

1high4by
02-15-2008, 04:04 AM
I believe d*net and b*v are different st19 programs? i am running d*net still down?

OverEasy
02-15-2008, 04:09 AM
d is running fine with 2.6.21

ruciz
02-15-2008, 04:11 AM
oop.. appears so. wasn't reading at the right places :P
looks like his previous version .17 is still workin on b3v...

seems like it must have only affected .24

pecker88
02-15-2008, 04:12 AM
I think their was another minor freezing bug, but not sure?
That is what I call f#$%# awesome support!!! A new version is released, supposidly fixing a bug that hardly anyone noticed.

Beats the hell out of owning a -------------
Fill in the blank w/ what ever testing platform you want casue their ALL inferior compared to st19!!

dssexpert
02-15-2008, 04:17 AM
pecker88 agreed! O there was a bug? no one noticed and it still got fixed? cool

scottie
02-15-2008, 05:22 AM
Damnit I need to get an aux card going - anyone want to trade an Bev S01 card for a 102???? - lol! No sign of a new auxshare?

harrybuckman
02-15-2008, 06:09 AM
2.6.26 is freezing on dish for me with an aux.

ruciz
02-15-2008, 01:17 PM
getting any ! in your window? snoopin can be off and this will still show up. If so increase your aux delay...

pecker88
02-15-2008, 04:44 PM
2.6.26 is freezing on dish for me with an aux.
then use a proper DishNet ISO w/ 3.6848 crystal.

harrybuckman
02-15-2008, 05:01 PM
then use a proper DishNet ISO w/ 3.6848 crystal.

this setup is with a proper 3.68 and it is a known good setup that has run for months
just switching the exe.

Video come in and you can watch it for a while then some freezing and an error 20 SNIC

I did see a couple !!! just before it bit the dust, which I have never seen before with this setup

I an going to start messing with it short and most likely trie what ruciz posted about the delays.

I am going to give my other setup with the 3.58 iso that runs in dos a whirl and see it I have the same problem.

harrybuckman
02-15-2008, 05:50 PM
just tried the dos with the 3.58 iso (which I will add reads and writes rom 3, 10 ,11 and 102's perfectly).

This setup worked with .17,.21 etc perfectly but does the same thing (gets video but then freezes and goes SNIC) with .26\

I am going to try some delays and maybe a new core.

Both setups get the previews with no freezes or SNIC

web_to_go
02-15-2008, 06:07 PM
Witch 102 BIN to put on plastic card going with the latest xt19xl..?
( B3V )
Thanks...

havok
02-15-2008, 06:50 PM
just tried the dos with the 3.58 iso (which I will add reads and writes rom 3, 10 ,11 and 102's perfectly).

This setup worked with .17,.21 etc perfectly but does the same thing (gets video but then freezes and goes SNIC) with .26\

I am going to try some delays and maybe a new core.

Both setups get the previews with no freezes or SNIC


you need a 3.68 crystal. the reason its freezing is because you are using a different crystal speed. 3.58 is for dave.

Little Kenobe
02-15-2008, 08:03 PM
harry you need to do the pin1 mod for your maxmel .. many experience same problem as your having .. pgm incorporates the reset in some releases but not all .. do the pin1 maxmel mod and problem solved for any st19 release
doesnt matter which crystal cause i use both types and they both work perfect

hope this helps

t160hq
02-15-2008, 08:11 PM
Had two setups with netsigna programmers and was experiencing freezing. changed them out with standard mili dn programmers and freezing gone. So if you don't have a accruate (3.68) reliable stable programmer in use with your aux cam expect freezing. Especially now that timing is so critical. t160hq

harrybuckman
02-15-2008, 08:24 PM
harry you need to do the pin1 mod for your maxmel .. many experience same problem as your having .. pgm incorporates the reset in some releases but not all .. do the pin1 maxmel mod and problem solved for any st19 release
doesnt matter which crystal cause i use both types and they both work perfect

hope this helps

I thought you didn't need the pin 1 mod with a 301.10? Maybe that is it, thank you.

The 3.58 iso I have works just fine (it is a slightly different build than any other iso I have seen) with everything for dish even st19xl. I am having the same exactly problem with the 3.68 iso, I even switched the two but no go still freeze and reboot. Neither setup has the pin one mod though.

Do you need it on a 301.10?

pecker88
02-15-2008, 09:18 PM
I thought you didn't need the pin 1 mod with a 301.10? Maybe that is it, thank you.

The 3.58 iso I have works just fine (it is a slightly different build than any other iso I have seen) with everything for dish even st19xl. I am having the same exactly problem with the 3.68 iso, I even switched the two but no go still freeze and reboot. Neither setup has the pin one mod though.

Do you need it on a 301.10?
I can assure you that the "pin 1 mod" aka "reset mod" is NOT NOT your problem. Their is ABSOLUTLY no need for this mod on a 301.xxx ird.

If both ISOs (3.58 and 3.68) are freezing for you, what is your pc speed? Are you running in pure boot disk dos? The new mecm requires pc to do much more difficult processing, thus the minimum 133mhz processors are not cutting it anymore.

You could try removing some of the crap out of your command line to get the most juice outa your pc. Assuming emu is com1 and aux is com2, all you need is: st19xl.exe /m /a

You should note that st19 was originally designed to run in pure dos or linux mode, NOT winblows. A later release added a win version. With all the crap running in the background of winblows, the processor occasionally hickups, causing st19 to not run smoothly.

good luck

Little Kenobe
02-15-2008, 09:41 PM
pecker your knwledge is awesome but i was getting that problem on a 301.010 with 392 firmware but it worked perfect at 248 firmware .. i couldnt figure it out .. my emu boards are the same except my first board i bought .. its little different meaning it has a few more chips on it than ones i bought from same place here more recently .. i had to do the pin1 reset on the new ones to make work for 392 firmeware .. while my older board worked flawlessly on any ird i used it on .. this problem dogged me for awhile but this was my solution and it works perfect now

harry you can test this by going back to 248 firmware and see if it corrects problem .. if it does then do pin1 mod and go back to 392 firmware if not then we try something else

lk

harrybuckman
02-15-2008, 09:47 PM
I can assure you that the "pin 1 mod" aka "reset mod" is NOT NOT your problem. Their is ABSOLUTLY no need for this mod on a 301.xxx ird.

If both ISOs (3.58 and 3.68) are freezing for you, what is your pc speed? Are you running in pure boot disk dos? The new mecm requires pc to do much more difficult processing, thus the minimum 133mhz processors are not cutting it anymore.

You could try removing some of the crap out of your command line to get the most juice outa your pc. Assuming emu is com1 and aux is com2, all you need is: st19xl.exe /m /a

You should note that st19 was originally designed to run in pure dos or linux mode, NOT winblows. A later release added a win version. With all the crap running in the background of winblows, the processor occasionally hickups, causing st19 to not run smoothly.

good luck



OK I have got one of the going on the 3.68 in winblows with a shortened command like pecker88 suggested. It still freezes. I am going to try the dos one next (it is on a 700 mhz computer with 256 meg ram. If that doesn't work I am going to try some delays because I am seeing a !!! right when it goes SNIC.

Thanks for your help I will post back what fixes the problem.

Little Kenobe
02-15-2008, 09:55 PM
after rereading the posts i dont think the reset mod is your problem .. are you using usb for anything in your emu setup?
when you see the !!!! then you need some type of delay usually

rg6a
02-15-2008, 10:15 PM
[quote=smilingjack]st19xl-2.6.26

THIS NEED A 102 CARD
IN THE FILES SHOP

By: Pierre G. Martinea*
pgm@usa.net

That site is for commercial email hosting and in the USA and for a moment don't believe the real PGM would either use that or offer that adress up.

I have corresponded with PGM years ago and he always used Phil Zimmerman's encryption on ALL email correspondence!

So if it's someone else, sounds like he's doing a good job!!!

Sorry, not attempting to hijack this <T>hread.....so continue and I'll keep learning.

harrybuckman
02-16-2008, 03:34 AM
OK after much testing here is what I came up with.


3.57 mhz iso doesn't work in windows or dos on a 3 ghz dual or a 700mhz p3 running all by itself with every delay. Previously it worked flawlessly with either.

3.68 mhz works in dos (perfect no freeze for 3 hrs+) but not in windows with either PC even if set to "realtime" running all by itself with no interruption even mouse or keyboard. Previously it worked with either.

There is a thread over at id with a few people having the same issue.

cancom
02-16-2008, 07:35 AM
I can assure you that the "pin 1 mod" aka "reset mod" is NOT NOT your problem. Their is ABSOLUTLY no need for this mod on a 301.xxx ird.

If both ISOs (3.58 and 3.68) are freezing for you, what is your pc speed? Are you running in pure boot disk dos? The new mecm requires pc to do much more difficult processing, thus the minimum 133mhz processors are not cutting it anymore.

You could try removing some of the crap out of your command line to get the most juice outa your pc. Assuming emu is com1 and aux is com2, all you need is: st19xl.exe /m /a

You should note that st19 was originally designed to run in pure dos or linux mode, NOT winblows. A later release added a win version. With all the crap running in the background of winblows, the processor occasionally hickups, causing st19 to not run smoothly.

good luck

Hi there pecker88

Exactly! 3.5795 Mhz is not working with this one....better swap Xtals to the real McCoy 3.6864 Mhz.

You now not only need the horsepower but the architecture for PGM's latest. There must be a lot of extensive routines running in this 2.626 ver even with the fixup from the day before. I put 4 perfectly good emu computers aside yesterday....just wouldn't keep up. I also tried different DOS formats and upper memory handlers. Some faired better than others but any freeze can be a pee off when recording to the PVR.

Hopefully it can eventualy be streamlined enough to include most 400Mhz+ DOS rigs.

Keep well
cancom

Tasey
02-16-2008, 08:37 AM
I'm still using Pentium MMX machines the fastest being 200mhz in dos and never a problem on any of them.

justanotherjoe
02-16-2008, 05:04 PM
Same here. My machine is a PII 266mhz 128mb ram running windows XP. never had a problem, and still no problem with 2.6.26. I don't know if this helps, but at least it shows that you don't have to throw a lot of horsepower at it.

sledmanjones
02-16-2008, 05:16 PM
I also have a 233mhz 64mb running win98 and superforge over the net with STxl2.6.26,with no issues,yet,

Dnk
02-16-2008, 06:20 PM
Lol that makes 4 of us with p2 running fine.
233 with 96megs running microxp.

harrybuckman
02-16-2008, 10:50 PM
Anyone have any problem running .26 in windows.

My 3.6874 mz iso will run in dos but not in windows even with a 3.0 ghz dual core 512mb of ram just running st19xl with no other programs. Previously it worked just fine with either

badbrains
02-17-2008, 01:02 AM
Running newest st19xl with celeron 400mhz 396mb ram no problems. This is with bev. We'll see when bev implements new mecm...

CharlieChazem
02-17-2008, 05:52 AM
My friend says he is still using a staight Pentium 133 in dos, 16mb ram,no ramdisk, stl .24 - no issues. If there are issues, it may be in serial port. Just what he said.

luap50
02-18-2008, 11:10 PM
Just turned on system and getting freezing/black screen using 2624. So would 2626 fix this? (P2-450 dos, d***)

pecker88
02-18-2008, 11:15 PM
Just turned on system and getting freezing/black screen using 2624. So would 2626 fix this? (P2-450 dos, d***)

why don't u try it out and report back? Why always make other peeps do the work?

some peeps amaze me.

luap50
02-18-2008, 11:22 PM
Hey pecker! It was working fine with 2624 up until this a.m. SO why not now if there hasn't been any reports of ecms. In addition, the new file ain't accessible at the moment as it appears to be only in the files section. Gaad it never ceases to amaze me!

pecker88
02-18-2008, 11:24 PM
Hey pecker! It was working fine with 2624 up until this a.m. SO why not now if there hasn't been any reports of ecms. In addition, the new file ain't accessible at the moment as it appears to be only in the files section. Gaad it never ceases to amaze me!

just caus u havn't heard repots of ecm doesn't mean anything. In fact...right now, DN has activated an old mecm from December. Older versions of st19 should work. However, I THINK the latest .26 version is working. Why dont' u test it?

luap50
02-18-2008, 11:30 PM
I'm going to when I find it.
An older one, eh? Was it the one released after dec4 or something?

retiredguy
02-18-2008, 11:30 PM
just caus u havn't heard repots of ecm doesn't mean anything. In fact...right now, DN has activated an old mecm from December. Older versions of st19 should work. However, I THINK the latest .26 version is working. Why dont' u test it?

I was getting a lot of freezing and !!!!!!!!!!'s with the st19xl-2.6.24 so i switched back to the december 5th release st19xl-2.6.08 and its working fine.

pecker88
02-18-2008, 11:38 PM
I was getting a lot of freezing and !!!!!!!!!!'s with the st19xl-2.6.24 so i switched back to the december 5th release st19xl-2.6.08 and its working fine.

reports say that 2.6.19 also works fine.

luap50
02-18-2008, 11:38 PM
Thanks for the info, Retired Guy! I will try to find that one too.

bud02
02-18-2008, 11:44 PM
Was running 2.6.26 lots of freezing rolled back to 2.6.17 all up
about 45 min ago

Tasey
02-19-2008, 12:40 AM
Anyone have any problem running .26 in windows.

My 3.6874 mz iso will run in dos but not in windows even with a 3.0 ghz dual core 512mb of ram just running st19xl with no other programs. Previously it worked just fine with eitherTry a 3.6864mhz crystal.

bigeee
02-19-2008, 01:17 AM
Try a 3.6864mhz crystal.
Still freezing with 3.6864 here on a 522 and 510 / latest ST19xl 2.6.24

z80
02-19-2008, 01:20 AM
Version 2.6.19 is working for me w/aux and 3.57 iso.

Also "CEMU 10c v2.07c AR" is working! I haven't tried it but auxshare should probably be up again since cemu is working.

Take Care, z80.

pecker88
02-19-2008, 01:21 AM
Still freezing with 3.6864 here on a 522 and 510 / latest ST19xl 2.6.24

2.6.17, 2.6.19, 2.6.21 ALL work great with proper 3.6864 ISO, perk 1.23 aux, running in prue dos.

hasn't hickup'd in over an hour.

OverEasy
02-19-2008, 02:03 AM
2.6.08 with Auxed card working for 2hrs in windows no freezing.

harrybuckman
02-19-2008, 02:18 AM
Try a 3.6864mhz crystal.


yeah thats what I meant, I don't think they even make a 3.6874 LOL

bigeee
02-19-2008, 02:20 AM
2.6.17, 2.6.19, 2.6.21 ALL work great with proper 3.6864 ISO, perk 1.23 aux, running in prue dos.

hasn't hickup'd in over an hour.


pecker88, I have tried all the listed st19's in dos - with proper 3.6864 iso
Still freezing on 522, 510 and also 301-10

I also switched to a pent 3 from pent 2 emu pc

ziguan
02-19-2008, 02:43 AM
here's what I am getting.
on a C2D 2 G with 2 G ram running xp. tried .26 .24 .21. all getting !!! and freez/reboot every 2 minutes.

on a p-450 mhz runing dos boot disk. all working including the latest .26.

good luck,

Dnk
02-19-2008, 03:00 AM
This is just a guess but everyone double check your serial port settings, if they are correct then try a different com port. On my newer setups the com ports seem to not work so well. it seems random but it will desub, snic, reboot, freeze (not all at the same time, but i see at least one of these at some point) within 24 hours of having it running then I must reboot the computer(even in dos) in order for it to not repeat the problem. I have tried everything from software to hardare to get these troublesome computers to work right, in the end my p2 233 works the best.
maybe the rs-232 xtals in these troublesome computers have something wrong with them causing our "hickups"?!

sierra99
02-19-2008, 03:48 AM
2.6.08 with aux is up....auxless not up....

captmorgan
02-19-2008, 06:30 AM
ST19 v2.6.27 is up and running flawlessly on two P1-133Mhz clients running W2K, on a wireless LAN connected to an AMD1800 Athlon Aux Server running win2003 Server with the SuperForge 1.5.2 installed as a service and a PK1.23'd ROM102 in a 3.68 ISO.