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birdman24
02-19-2008, 11:33 PM
this is what i get when i try to read my 510 in jkeys

ird# R -0 0000 00001-96
Box Keys FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
build DCA8
boot XXXX
model 10s
sw p360

wtp
02-20-2008, 12:59 AM
I'm pretty new to 510's but did you do the vidmod? The fff's could be caused by a bad jtag connection. resolder the connections and try it again.

birdman24
02-20-2008, 01:17 AM
yea i did the vidmod. if the jtag connections were bad, would it still show the receiver model on jkeys?

natalian
02-20-2008, 01:36 AM
I'm pretty new to 510's but did you do the vidmod? The fff's could be caused by a bad jtag connection. resolder the connections and try it again.
5100 dont need vidmod only 5800 and 5900

wtp
02-20-2008, 02:12 AM
a 510 does need a vidmod.

birdman24
02-20-2008, 02:29 AM
a 510 does need a vidmod.

everyone knows this and its already been done; my question is why dont i get my ird info when i try to detect in jkeys. The model number of receivver comes up. but the ird # is all 0000000 and bk's FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF. When i try to write to tsop, it goes 99% and fails!!!

Bandit5906
02-20-2008, 02:58 AM
You got pm!

If it does that your vid mod or jtag has a loose wire I think!

birdman24
02-20-2008, 03:35 AM
all wires are secure.

natalian
02-20-2008, 03:56 AM
a 510 does need a vidmod.
5100 dont need vidmod !!! make sure use right jkes -(prog.) One more make sure oj1 is ground when you read with jkes

Wiley-X
02-20-2008, 04:19 AM
Are you using the correct JKEYS with the moved info??

I have had more than 20 DVR510's run through my shop and ALL of them required a VidMod to write to the TSOP. (I'm not sure that an American 510 is a 5100...I thought a 5100 was Canadien for a PVR501???)

Make sure you have the CORRECT connections for your JTAG...do not confuse this with a PVR501!

hacker
02-20-2008, 04:22 AM
5100 dont need vidmod !!! make sure use right jkes -(prog.) One more make sure oj1 is ground when you read with jkesThey are talking about a DISH 510 NOT a BELL 5100!!

birdman24
02-20-2008, 04:44 AM
all points are correct. for some reason it let me write all the way through but when i read, i still get same all 00000 and FFFFFFFF for bk'S. hmm???

chep
02-20-2008, 05:01 AM
be sure you select 508-510 at the bottom of the drop down screen in jkeys. NOT 501.

Bandit5906
02-20-2008, 12:43 PM
You are modifying and writing #2 flash?

I have posted (in the files section) a modified version of JKEYS which allows one to read/write to an IRD showing ffffff.

skinerd
02-20-2008, 01:12 PM
all points are correct. for some reason it let me write all the way through but when i read, i still get same all 00000 and FFFFFFFF for bk'S. hmm???

Not writing all the way thru indicates that a vid mod is needed.......check the chip type, if they are 323GT or 320DT, mod needed............... 323DT mod not needed.

00000000 for receiver and FFFFFFFF for boxkeys indicates wrong receiver type as mentioned above.

A 510 normally has a "moved ird info" type flash, when the flash is opened in flashedit, the receiver number and boxkeys are not in the same location as those in a 501/5100. The only jkeys option for these type flashes is the 508 setting... However, selecting 301 single tsop, just as a test, will also show the numbers correctly as the 301 single has the numbers in exactly the same location.

josh67
02-20-2008, 01:16 PM
when you jump 0j1 is it grounded or do you still need to ground it i got a moded 510 with errors when eraceing flash iam about to toss it anyway thanks josh67.

skinerd
02-20-2008, 01:52 PM
when you jump 0j1 is it grounded or do you still need to ground it i got a moded 510 with errors when eraceing flash iam about to toss it anyway thanks josh67.


One of the OJ1 pads is ground.........so just jumping it is enough.

birdman24
02-21-2008, 12:23 AM
hmm, ok so let me get this straight.
i open jeys detect, then i go to flash program pullwire from ird.turn on oj1 switch. select flash 1. turn on vid mod erase flash. turn off select flash 2 turn on erase. then turn off.

then i go to flash edit. change numbers to public numbers. fix crc. save. then i go down and save virgin epprom. (do i need to select remove private info tab as well?)

then i go to gendt08-sk v3.3. load my flash2 with public info and card image.
(do i use rsa or sk) select card rsa then calcutate sk and save both card and flash.




write new bin with vid mod off. and oj1 on. then i write virgin epprom in epprom programming???

im sure most if not all of this is wrong. Can someone point me in the right direction as i've never done this before. allways messed with married subs and older irds!!

skinerd
02-21-2008, 12:34 AM
No..........jump OJ1 BEFORE powering up.

GenDT08?? For public numbers ??

You need to do some seriuos reading, you close but are missing the boat.

birdman24
02-21-2008, 12:40 AM
ok i give it a try!! yea i know i got some serious reading to do. i wish there was a guide thats shows step by step how to do it all!! i saw the how to marry the hard drive but thats it! aww well i keep reading!!

skinerd
02-21-2008, 12:49 AM
birdman, you are using the R44 mod method??

birdman24
02-21-2008, 01:15 AM
that is correct. my chip is a 323gt. i had it done by a friend who solders. it looks really clean. he drilled 2 holes. 1 for the r44 switch and a hole for the oj1 on off switch....also, he mounted a printer port (forgot what its called) to the back so all i need to do is run a printer cable from the ird to my computer. looks real legit.

skinerd
02-21-2008, 01:23 AM
Ok, cool.
OJ1 jumped before u start and stays that way till done.

When u go to he flash programming page of jkeys, dont do anything when the pop up screen says to unlug or whatever, the OJ1 jumper is taking care of all that, just click past that.

This is assuming u have a flash file prepared to write to flash 2.
With R44 switch off, erase flash 1, then select flash2. Then turn R44 sw on, erase flash 2. Then the write the new flash to flash 2. Turn R44 sw off, go back and write a virgin eeprom. U done. Unplug and unjump OJ1.

skinerd
02-21-2008, 01:26 AM
If u are setting it up for a public number box, get workmens cloner, and set up a virgin flash, FF SKs and put public info in the DT08 area.

The 510 then will detect correctly as a 501/5100 type flash, dont worry it's still a 510.

Bandit5906
02-21-2008, 01:40 AM
Skinerd is a man of remarkable patience (he helped me with my first one also).

Others would have cussed me and left, but not Skinerd!

birdman24
02-21-2008, 01:47 AM
ok so i dont have the flash file prepared yet!! do i use gendt08 sk for that or do iuse the flash cloner?

where can i find the wm cloner? did a search and found dcm bin cloner, and flash cloner 2.0?

birdman24
02-21-2008, 01:49 AM
Skinerd is a man of remarkable patience (he helped me with my first one also).

Others would have cussed me and left, but not Skinerd!

i know!! i can already tell!! hes da man!!!

Bandit5906
02-21-2008, 01:53 AM
Flash cloner 2.0 is in the files section under TSOP Utilities.

birdman24
02-21-2008, 01:54 AM
the sticker build is dc8a. does anyone have a virgin tsop and bin that i can use for public numbers?

Bandit5906
02-21-2008, 02:03 AM
Check your mail!

skinerd
02-21-2008, 02:42 AM
Did u check the files section?

birdman24
02-21-2008, 02:57 AM
yup, i dl cloner 2.0 and Bandit5906 sent me a tsop file with public numbers and a epprom bin file. how do i use these with cloner and my card image? im confused:confused:

Bandit5906
02-21-2008, 02:57 AM
I sent it to him in case he cannot access the files section at this time.

skinerd
02-21-2008, 03:10 AM
yup, i dl cloner 2.0 and Bandit5906 sent me a tsop file with public numbers and a epprom bin file. how do i use these with cloner and my card image? im confused:confused:

With Bandit's file, cloner would not be nescessary........that file should be ready to go....

birdman24
02-21-2008, 03:19 AM
ok i wrote bandits files. and everything went good. now i detect and all info shows up. What about my card image. can i just write it to card and it should work with the hard drive?

Bandit5906
02-21-2008, 03:20 AM
I had sent him the Cloner 2.0 file a while before the TSOP file not knowing which he would need at the time and then directed him to post (to help others) rather than PM me with questions.

skinerd
02-21-2008, 03:27 AM
ok i wrote bandits files. and everything went good. now i detect and all info shows up. What about my card image. can i just write it to card and it should work with the hard drive?

If it's a public bn102, yes.
Do switch check, shut it down let it update then do switch check again.

birdman24
02-21-2008, 03:32 AM
ok i will try. also, when i open up the file that bandit sent me, the crc is red as well as the app checksum...is it still good to go?

birdman24
02-21-2008, 04:08 AM
when i finished the switch test, it said a serious problem has been detected with your hard drive. then i get the your card isnt authorized nag!

i read somewhere how to program hard drive with remote and the power button. does anyone know what im talking about?

skinerd
02-21-2008, 04:21 AM
when i finished the switch test, it said a serious problem has been detected with your hard drive. then i get the your card isnt authorized nag!

i read somewhere how to program hard drive with remote and the power button. does anyone know what im talking about?
Drive didnt marry................what flash version did u use?
P080 should be ok for a DC8x box.

birdman24
02-21-2008, 04:25 AM
i used the one bandit gave me it was p401. everything else worrk good. all channels up and running. except pvr

skinerd
02-21-2008, 04:27 AM
i used the one bandit gave me it was p401. everything else worrk good. all channels up and running. except pvr

P401 will not marry the drive, needs to be p080.........

birdman24
02-21-2008, 04:34 AM
would this work?

- Menu->6->3->Info->Browse->Theme->Play->Play->Recall

* note hold the Recall button a couple seconds to activate

skinerd
02-21-2008, 04:42 AM
would this work?

- Menu->6->3->Info->Browse->Theme->Play->Play->Recall

* note hold the Recall button a couple seconds to activate

That WILL NOT fix it...............needs a VIRGIN flash and eeprom............

birdman24
02-21-2008, 04:50 AM
ok i dl the virgin flash (is p79 ok) and epprom. how do you use that with the flash cloner program so i can start over.


i wouldn't have been able to do this without you guys!!! Thanks 4 everything!!! :D

skinerd
02-21-2008, 05:30 AM
Come on man......have u looked at the program?

Has a sourse tsop........and a destination.

Source is the one with good numbers, the P401...............destination is the virgin....
pretty self explanatory really.

birdman24
02-21-2008, 05:35 AM
yea i got it already...........lmao
thanks for all your help!!! really though you guys are good. thanks for being patient!!!

skinerd
02-21-2008, 06:10 AM
No u aint got it.........black screen means u did not correctly clone the p401 to the p079. Write the p401 back now, drive is married, so should now work.


When a thread is started, and we are tyring to get u going.......PMs are not a good thing, ask here.........so we keep it continous.

Bandit5906
02-21-2008, 01:13 PM
No u aint got it.........black screen means u did not correctly clone the p401 to the p079. Write the p401 back now, drive is married, so should now work.


When a thread is started, and we are tyring to get u going.......PMs are not a good thing, ask here.........so we keep it continous.

I mentioned the same thing to him with the explanation that it would help others, too.