St19xl 2.6.28

[pecker88]

PGM just released new st19!!!!!:
hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/93803575/st19xl-2.6.28.zip
in the file shop boot disk maker http://bellexpress.vu/forum/local_links.php?catid=64

Here is a c/p from PGM:
"I do NOT condone the use of this application for unlawful purposes. If
requests and comments pertaining to unlawful uses of this application
persist, I wil cease it's public distribution!
Hoping this isn't the last public release:"
-End c/p

Hopefully peeps STFU on xxxxxxxxxxxx or you can kiss st19 goodbye!!!!!!!!!


Up and working 100% on DN with real aux card!!!

[kjp1007]

Thanks pecker for the link!!

Thank you PGM for always coming through!! Your the best!!

Lets's hope we are lucky enough to keep getting these releases
and certain people do not ruin it!!

Thanks again PGM!!!!!!!

[bud02]

PGM just released new st19!!!!!:
hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/93803575/st19xl-2.6.28.zip

Here is a c/p from PGM:
"I do NOT condone the use of this application for unlawful purposes. If
requests and comments pertaining to unlawful uses of this application
persist, I wil cease it's public distribution!
Hoping this isn't the last public release:"
-End c/p

Hopefully peeps STFU on xxxxxxxxxxxxxx or you can kiss st19 goodbye!!!!!!!!!


Up and working 100% on DN with real aux card!!!

Bunch of F#@KTARDS just cant resist opening there pie hole.......
removing any doubt about their single digit IQ.

[Chloraseptic]

nice job, the prev version works well also with others.

[locash]

Seems to work fine on dish with no aux.

[jjs]

anyone else having issues using latest st19 and superforge 0.1.5.2? ST19 starts, see the aux is detected and then ST19 closes

[borg79]

same problem with superforge + the new st19...detects the aux and then closes...

[retiredguy]

Yes I am and I know my settings are correct as all I did was replace the st19 exec. Seems superforge does not see the aux anymore. It runs great running straight st19 with auxcard.

[indulger]

Same problem here with immediate closure of the st19. However, fyi, st19.21 is running without Aux right now

[zhakrin]

same issue here with Superforge, wonder what changed?

[borg79]

well the one guy who would know about this would be chemlab...wonder if hes around?

[OverEasy]

2.6.21 is working for D**h without auxed card or auxshare in windows haven't tryed it in dos

[jskey]

Thanks for that C&P Pecker,,,,there are appropriate places to discuss certain things and one of them is NOT the xxxxxxx or other xxxxxxxx.

[smilingjack]

in the file shop boot disk maker http://bellexpress.vu/forum/local_links.php?catid=64

it works in ST19 and CEMU

with out a card of aux

[sledmanjones]

I'm seeing the same issue with Superforge,shutting down as soon as it sees the aux card.But it's still up cardless for now.I'm sure chemlab and his crew are plugging away at a new version of Superforge right now,I hope....

And,Jack,ST19 does not use ANY files from CEMU,and CEMU does not use any files from ST19.Thay are still two very seperate programs.7500 posts,and yourr still confusing the newbies....and even us who have been around a bit....

[chemlab]

PGM made a change that broke SF and probably auxshare too. Easy fix, we'll release a new version when aux cards are needed again.

[hughnohoo]

just remove the -a from your cmd lines and it runs fine.

[badbrains]

PGM made a change that broke SF and probably auxshare too. Easy fix, we'll release a new version when aux cards are needed again.

For those that still want to use aux card, st19 .21 is working with aux currently.

[pecker88]

real aux card in pure dos and winXP here running great, even though it isn't needed.

[smilingjack]

I'm seeing the same issue with Superforge,shutting down as soon as it sees the aux card.But it's still up cardless for now.I'm sure chemlab and his crew are plugging away at a new version of Superforge right now,I hope....

And,Jack,ST19 does not use ANY files from CEMU,and CEMU does not use any files from ST19.Thay are still two very seperate programs.7500 posts,and yourr still confusing the newbies....and even us who have been around a bit....


Does that program not run with with a ST19 ?

It run with a CEMU (max Mel)

in the file shop boot disk maker http://bellexpress.vu/forum/local_links.php?catid=64

[coalsausage]

That program IS ST19.

Cemu is not a max mel.

A max mel is a set of chips that allows you to interface between the ird and the pc.

Cemu is a rom 10 based program. It requires a rom 10 image (dish.bin).

ST19 is a rom 102 based program. It requires a rom 102 image. (ST19.COR)

ST19 has never been or probably never will be anything close to being CEMU.

[Stony]

That program IS ST19.

Cemu is not a max mel.

A max mel is a set of chips that allows you to interface between the ird and the pc.

Cemu is a rom 10 based program. It requires a rom 10 image (dish.bin).

ST19 is a rom 102 based program. It requires a rom 102 image. (ST19.COR)

ST19 has never been or probably never will be anything close to being CEMU.

You cleared it up a little for me. I don't test cemu.

Wow, that's an old sig. Guess it's been awhile since I've been here. Gonna change it.

It was my setup with the AVR-x, hehehe

[sledmanjones]

The only two things that the program named "CEMU" and the program named "ST19Xl" have in common is that they are both "emulators",and they both use a "max/mel" board to interface to the intended device.If I'm not mistaken,it's called ST19xl cause the chip on the 102 card is a ST19XL,but I could be wrong.As coalsausage has pointed out,"CEMU" is based on Rom10to102,and is an open-source project,and ST19xL is based on Rom102 emulation,and is not open-source,but supported by PGM.

[t160hq]

PGM just released new st19!!!!!:
hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/93803575/st19xl-2.6.28.zip
in the file shop boot disk maker http://bellexpress.vu/forum/local_links.php?catid=64

Here is a c/p from PGM:
"I do NOT condone the use of this application for unlawful purposes. If
requests and comments pertaining to unlawful uses of this application
persist, I wil cease it's public distribution!
Hoping this isn't the last public release:"
-End c/p

Hopefully peeps STFU on xxxxxxxxxxxx (even this is too much of a hint pecker) or you can kiss st19 goodbye!!!!!!!!!


Up and working 100% on DN with real aux card!!!
Yep someone let the cat out of the bag. And it's causing no end of idiots
showing up asking stupid questions.

It was posted at another site by someone, I won't mention a name, but he should know better.

The info should be gone soon and hopefully no other clowns will see it and
cause trouble.

If you already know where PGM posts keep it under your hat! If you have mentioned it in a
post go back and edit the info out!

t160hq

[pecker88]

Yep someone let the cat out of the bag. And it's causing no end of idiots
showing up asking stupid questions.

It was posted at another site by someone, I won't mention a name, but he should know better.

The info should be gone soon and hopefully no other clowns will see it and
cause trouble.

If you already know where PGM posts keep it under your hat! If you have mentioned it in a
post go back and edit the info out!

t160hq

good call, thanks for the edit!!

[smilingjack]

That program IS ST19.

Cemu is not a max mel.

A max mel is a set of chips that allows you to interface between the ird and the pc.

Cemu is a rom 10 based program. It requires a rom 10 image (dish.bin).

ST19 is a rom 102 based program. It requires a rom 102 image. (ST19.COR)

ST19 has never been or probably never will be anything close to being CEMU.

Well, if it does not run in ST19..............
.
I will just have to start posting in 2 post
.
one "PGM just released new ST19!!!!!" (whit the original files)
.
one "PGM just released new CEMU" (with the CEMU files)
.
Thanks, it always help full when members contribute

[Grizz49]

Yep someone let the cat out of the bag. And it's causing no end of idiots
showing up asking stupid questions.
It was posted at another site by someone, I won't mention a name, but he should know better.
The info should be gone soon and hopefully no other clowns will see it and
cause trouble.
If you already know where PGM posts keep it under your hat! If you have mentioned it in a
post go back and edit the info out!
t160hq
Yep. They(the idiots) are still at it posting questions at that place.

[kaibab]

Yep. They(the idiots) are still at it posting questions at that place.

Is there a way to email the idiots anonymously and tell them to shut up seeing they all left there email address behind.

[sledmanjones]

Well, if it does not run in ST19..............
.
I will just have to start posting in 2 post
.
one "PGM just released new ST19!!!!!" (whit the original files)
.
one "PGM just released new CEMU" (with the CEMU files)
.
Thanks, it always help full when members contribute

Just to clear things up for you and anyone else,PGM will NEVER be releasing any CEMU programs.He does not contribute to the CEMU Project.He writes one program,ST19XL.Thats it.Other people write CEMU.The two different programs share nothing with each other except for the flash on the Max/Mel board.Think of it this way,ST19XL is like Windows,and CEMU is like Mac OS x.They are similar,but not the same.If this isn't plain enough,then I'll say no more on this subject.Just pick your own names,and we'll call it that,

[Tasey]

Yep. They(the idiots) are still at it posting questions at that place.Lol the providers and competition will be all over this to piss PGM off.

[smilingjack]

,ST19XL is like Windows,and CEMU is like Mac OS x

ST19XL is like Window millennium,and CEMU is like XP-PRO

ST19XL is like ROLL ROYCE,and CEMU is like FORD

my $10 cemu is up as often as you $300 St19

And all I did was to add some files to get it to work

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[OverEasy]

ST19XL is like Window millennium,and CEMU is like XP-PRO
ST19XL is like ROLL ROYCE,and CEMU is like FORD
my $10 cemu is up as often as you $300 St19
And all I did was to add some files to get it to work
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

ST19XL is like XP-PRO
CEMU is like DOS

and there both FREEWARE the max/mel is the only thing that cost.

[sLaShEr]

ST19XL is an ST19XL processor emulator.

CEMU is not.

Both are good - but they should not be compared.

[Scoobydooo]

ST19XL is like Window millennium,and CEMU is like XP-PRO

ST19XL is like ROLL ROYCE,and CEMU is like FORD

my $10 cemu is up as often as you $300 St19

And all I did was to add some files to get it to work

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


:confused:


:eek:

I thought it was St19 for Cemu? ;)

Scoob:rolleyes:

[sledmanjones]

All I'm trying to say to smilingjack,is to please stop labeling stickys and files improperly.For example,the sticky in this forum named PGM ST19XL 2.6.28-ST19-CEMU no card. In reality,ST19XL has nothing to do with CEMU,and it is both confusing to newbies to EMU,and dis-respectful to the people who work hard to make these programs work.As sLaShEr ponts out,both are good,and they should not be compared. And I feel they should both be applauded as creative, ingenious pieces of software.I give up,and will say no more,call things whatever you want.

[harrybuckman]

All I'm trying to say to smilingjack,is to please stop labeling stickys and files improperly.For example,the sticky in this forum named PGM ST19XL 2.6.28-ST19-CEMU no card. In reality,ST19XL has nothing to do with CEMU,and it is both confusing to newbies to EMU,and dis-respectful to the people who work hard to make these programs work.As sLaShEr ponts out,both are good,and they should not be compared. And I feel they should both be applauded as creative, ingenious pieces of software.I give up,and will say no more,call things whatever you want.

Neither should ever be compared, pgm is a one man run away freight train.

CEMU is very good as well.

[Tasey]

Well contrary to what has been posted cemu is not rom10to102 emulation. Yes it can and does perform that function but it can be made to emulate rom102 also. Cemu ran rom 3,10,11,10to101, and now 10to102. Who here knows exactly what PGM is using to compile his work? Perhaps it is cemu...

[Scoobydooo]

All I'm trying to say to smilingjack,is to please stop labeling stickys and files improperly.For example,the sticky in this forum named PGM ST19XL 2.6.28-ST19-CEMU no card.

Good luck with that.

Some people are just stuborn and set in their ways.

Scoob

[JT]

All I'm trying to say to smilingjack,is to please stop labeling stickys and files improperly.For example,the sticky in this forum named PGM ST19XL 2.6.28-ST19-CEMU no card. In reality,ST19XL has nothing to do with CEMU,and it is both confusing to newbies to EMU,and dis-respectful to the people who work hard to make these programs work.As sLaShEr ponts out,both are good,and they should not be compared. And I feel they should both be applauded as creative, ingenious pieces of software.I give up,and will say no more,call things whatever you want.

Yep. Just because it runs off a boot disk doesn't mean it's Cemu. We've talked to SJ about this a couple times already. Might be time to bring it up again. As long as they work auxless, who cares, but there is a big difference between Cemu and ST19xl even if they both run off a boot disk and cardless.

[JT]

Well contrary to what has been posted cemu is not rom10to102 emulation. Yes it can and does perform that function but it can be made to emulate rom102 also. Cemu ran rom 3,10,11,10to101, and now 10to102. Who here knows exactly what PGM is using to compile his work? Perhaps it is cemu...

Cemu uses a rom10to102 dish.bin. ST19xl uses a real rom102.bin. PGM is most certainly not using cemu to aid him in his coding. It's most likely the other way around. The cemu fixes in almost every instance come out 24-48 hrs after the st19xl fixes from PGM.

[Scoobydooo]

my $10 cemu is up as often as you $300 St19


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Cemu has not been up as much as ST19.

A large amount of the time, you have been using ST19 cardless.

Who paid $300 for ST19?

Scoob

[Scoobydooo]

Who here knows exactly what PGM is using to compile his work? Perhaps it is cemu...

That is an absolutely ridiculous statement. It only shows that you really have no idea what you are talking about.

Scoob

[90rn10v3r]

ST19XL is an ST19XL processor emulator.

CEMU is not.

Both are good - but they should not be compared. I could not agree with you more.

[Tasey]

That is an absolutely ridiculous statement. It only shows that you really have no idea what you are talking about.

ScoobWell motermouth educate us. Tell us what PGM is using in his compilation. I thought so.:rolleyes:

[Scoobydooo]

Well motermouth educate us. Tell us what PGM is using in his compilation. I thought so.:rolleyes:

Isn't it way past your bedtime?

Scoob

[johnnyjam]

Smiling Jack has it stuck in his head that the max/mel is an emulator, like the atmega or enigma is an emulator. He does not understand the difference between an emulator, and an interface. I and several others have tried to set him straight... But he doesn't get it...

It seems that the way some flashes for the max/mel (or single chip) are named have confused him. As many of the flashes are labeled st19 or cemu, only because certain flashes transfer packets slightly differently....

I have tried to explain to him that the max/mel, or single chip emu interface(depending on your setup) isn't even required... Both emulator softwares ...can... be connected directly to your pc, with no interface... No other hardware... Except a serial cable, and a different crystal on your PC's serial interface...

Yes, jack, you are right... Both st19 and cemu flashes for the max/mel can be used interchangably, with both emu's (in nearly every case).

Once again...

1->St19 is a software program authored by PGM that emulates a st19 processor (rom 102/103). You can tell this because the executable program is called ST19.exe.

2->Cemu is a software program authored and maintained by many people, that currently emulates a 6805 processor (rom10), which runs a rom10-102 bin. If you are issuing a Cemu emulator disk, it will ALWAYS contain a file named CEMU.EXE.

3->A max/mel is just an interface to allow a pc to talk to a receiver, because the pc and receiver talk at different speeds. The PC does all of the work. It is acting just like a real smartcard. If you change the crystal in your computer, you can throw the max mel, and cemu flash and st19 flash in the garbage bin, and still watch tv using st19, or cemu...

4-> Thanks for making these boot disks. But please label them according to the .EXE that they contain. If the disk uses ST19.EXE with a .COR file, please label it ST19 Boot Disk. If it contains the CEMU.EXE executable please label it CEMU Boot Disk. The flashes for most purposes are all the same, so please forget about them...

...Clockspeed...

[johnnyjam]

Well contrary to what has been posted cemu is not rom10to102 emulation. Yes it can and does perform that function but it can be made to emulate rom102 also. Cemu ran rom 3,10,11,10to101, and now 10to102. Who here knows exactly what PGM is using to compile his work? Perhaps it is cemu...

Actually, the 101 and 101.5 versions ran a real 101 bin, they didn't need a penga rom10-102 bin to do the conversions... Rumor has it that a real 102 cemu exists as well.

As well, the basis of cemu is still the 6805 emulator, with several frankenstein add ons to do the math for the mapcalls. For instance, arm code from viewsat was incorporated into cemu, and that arm code was borrowed from emunation sources...

[johnnyjam]

Well motermouth educate us. Tell us what PGM is using in his compilation. I thought so.:rolleyes:


Well, logic dictates that seeing as how it uses a real st19 ROM file, and a real st19 eeprom, and emulates them perfectly, it would have to be one fuck of a workover to incorporate all of the st19 opcodes, and have it perfectly update a bin in the stream and perfectly emulate all of the commands. Remember, when st19 goes down, its due to mapcalls (to a separate processor in the cam), not flaws in the st19 emulator itself.

However, i wouldn't be surprised one bit if the cemu/emunation/sasc sources were a valuable resource to him... Just like none of this would have ever been possible without Stuntguy and his infamous Faq.


...clockspeed...

[t160hq]

Who paid $300 for ST19?

Scoob

Anyone who is running with a aux card that had to buy the aux card,
programmer, and interface. More if you have to buy a unlocker as
well.

Even if you DIY what you can and get a cam cheap. You still have
to buy the unlocker and programmer. Very few have the skill and
equipment to build those on the cheap.

t160hq

[pecker88]

$300 what a rip off!!!!

add in local newspaper: $5
numerous calls from people with ex-sub ird's w/ rom102's: $30
ISO 400 programmer: $25
M24C 3-chip emu design parts list: $15
OR
C@ncom smt2008 emu board: $20
Self modded T-911: $25
Old PI/PII PC at surplus auction: free

Total: maximum $105
minimum $100

Just picked up 3 ex-sub 311 ird's last week for FREE!!!! Its amazing what people are willing to give you just to clear out the garage.

Anyone who is running with a aux card that had to buy the aux card,
programmer, and interface. More if you have to buy a unlocker as
well.

Even if you DIY what you can and get a cam cheap. You still have
to buy the unlocker and programmer. Very few have the skill and
equipment to build those on the cheap.

t160hq

[t160hq]

Where is the cost of gas and shipping for all that stuff?

Missed the price for the soldering iron.

Solder

com cables or db9 connectors if wiring your own.

looped cams assuming they are new to this and don't get it right
first time. Or being inexperienced at this fail to mod the t-911 correctly.

Sure you and me pecker can and do it that cheaply. We are talking newbies here.


t160hq

[pecker88]

Where is the cost of gas and shipping for all that stuff?

Missed the price for the soldering iron.

Solder

com cables or db9 connectors if wiring your own.

looped cams assuming they are new to this and don't get it right
first time. Or being inexperienced at this fail to mod the t-911 correctly.


t160hq

hey man, don't want to turn this into a contest. The point of my reply was to exemplify that it can be done for a LOT cheaper then $300 if u wanna put some effort into searching for cheap parts, and are willing to assemble some of the components. Some peeps enjoy this sort stuff, and are less concered about TV unlike the freetver's searching for a plug-n-play solution.

[Tasey]

Actually, the 101 and 101.5 versions ran a real 101 bin, they didn't need a penga rom10-102 bin to do the conversions... Rumor has it that a real 102 cemu exists as well.

As well, the basis of cemu is still the 6805 emulator, with several frankenstein add ons to do the math for the mapcalls. For instance, arm code from viewsat was incorporated into cemu, and that arm code was borrowed from emunation sources...Well it was past my bedtime and limit lol. Let me clarify my position. I agree that my using the term cemu was perhaps confusing however that is what the few called it when they completely rebuilt emulation using DJGPP(like cemu) for a real rom102 and 3 emulator. The only reference to the existance of this publicly that I know of was from a thread just before PGM made his first release of st19xl and it slipped out by accident in a heated debate with Rotten and someone else over the source code of some other device. And yes the old sources were of great value:)