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mili
02-25-2008, 10:41 PM
Don't say I did not warn you. Go without TV for the next day or so if you use straight up ROM102 or 103 cards especially if you use public numbers. It is only a hunch on my part but this latest ECM feel like herding sheep to the slaughter to me.

mili

bud02
02-25-2008, 11:05 PM
I was wondering if some may already be destine for the glove box.

duffybno1
02-25-2008, 11:24 PM
i'm leaving 1 in so i will report back if there are problems
running public no roll

havok
02-25-2008, 11:31 PM
i have 9 cams so 1 lost won't hurt

wilmero
02-25-2008, 11:37 PM
I see a Cemu fix is already posted at 10x

duffybno1
02-25-2008, 11:43 PM
no keys were changed yet
has anyone got a hard copy of this latest ecm

mili
02-25-2008, 11:49 PM
New fixes are on www.bellexpress.vu (http://www.bellexpress.vu)
This was one more useless ECM but I think they will follow it up with something nasty for ROMs.

mili

duffybno1
02-25-2008, 11:53 PM
i hav'nt seen where any roms went down at all
this may have been just another attempt at fta emu etc

pecker88
02-26-2008, 12:00 AM
come on charles, try to loop my floppy drive or aux card......

harrybuckman
02-26-2008, 12:13 AM
come on charles, try to loop my floppy drive or aux card......

Stop giving him ideas, I don't have a back-up floppy drive. We would all be done like diner if he went for the drive, those things aren't easy to find these days.

wileys_farm
02-26-2008, 12:18 AM
lets see what they got!!!!! Bring it on

CrownRoyal
02-26-2008, 12:26 AM
Why is it when there is an ECM , folks encourage them to try and kill our cards & testing devices?? Would you tdare a murderer with a gun to shoot you???

Thanks for the heads up... It would be AWESOME if there was some SMS type of notifcation service for when this stuff happens


CC

ellsmako
02-26-2008, 12:26 AM
lets see what they got!!!!! Bring it on

err isn't that what George Bush said,..

wileys_farm
02-26-2008, 12:33 AM
we encourage an ECM to see how well our blockers work

EyeCan'tCode
02-26-2008, 12:33 AM
I have two rom 102's; one with codespace blocker, and another with phoenix rom102 loader which is autoroll.

The one with codespace blocker is black screen. Its not giving me nag005, its just black screen. I haven't seen any info of a new ecm so I don't know if this is what milli is talking about; I'm begining to worry!

PS My autoroll blocker is still up

ellsmako
02-26-2008, 12:38 AM
No offence to you personnally Wileys farm but I'd really prefer for them to stay dumb, but eventually things happen.
I prefer to keep my 4 102's intact having dodged the last great onslaught. But I must salute you for being able to risk.

mili
02-26-2008, 12:39 AM
we encourage an ECM to see how well our blockers work

Makes as much sense as checking if a gun is loaded by pointing it at your dick and squeezing the trigger.

mili

ellsmako
02-26-2008, 12:42 AM
Milli thanks for the Heads up anyway , I would rather be cautious then Dead besides the atemga is working anyway after all its only tv.

mofotec
02-26-2008, 02:25 AM
im with mili on this one the ecm has embedded packets .i see three thats new to me they only let one go today. the others may be bad to plastic 4 sure.

The Lizard King
02-26-2008, 02:27 AM
Don't say I did not warn you. Go without TV for the next day or so if you use straight up ROM102 or 103 cards especially if you use public numbers. It is only a hunch on my part but this latest ECM feel like herding sheep to the slaughter to me.
Which provider?

TLK :cool:

mofotec
02-26-2008, 02:30 AM
i see packets in both logs

alsouthster
02-26-2008, 03:02 AM
Makes as much sense as checking if a gun is loaded by pointing it at your dick and squeezing the trigger.

mili

LOL good one, up there with cookie monster analogy!

mili
02-26-2008, 03:54 AM
Well they got two more triggers to pull without needing a new MECM update. There can be more Emu harassment payloads or a card killer ECM. I figure they will activated them before Thursday when they will send a new MECM wiht mupltiple payloads again. Nothing to stop FTA only minor inconvenience.

mili

spanky macdouga
02-26-2008, 04:03 AM
minor unless you own a coolsat :(

willham
02-26-2008, 05:13 AM
minor unless you own a coolsat :(
your right about that I must say thay suck about now

riverman
02-26-2008, 07:55 AM
your right about that I must say thay suck about now
Coolsat new fixes are out already

mili
02-26-2008, 09:05 AM
Everything was back up in record time. A big nothing ECM.

mili

eric keri
02-26-2008, 09:16 AM
Wait whats going on? I have 3 rom102 going and haven't seen anything change..

Crow 492
02-26-2008, 10:32 AM
Interesting C/P from emulation site

Just so you know, the provider does not have to issue a new $9f/B1 for them to stream a new provider key now. They can do it at will , unexpectedly. This is the way it works... the key is part of the cmd07 itself, plus some constant bytes. There are sub-modules embedded which they can decrypt at will, instantly, done all in the cmd07.

bud02
02-26-2008, 10:48 AM
seaboard18 posted that same thing here yesterday
good info
http://www.dssftp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77270

kromedge
02-26-2008, 09:11 PM
Interesting C/P from emulation site

Just so you know, the provider does not have to issue a new $9f/B1 for them to stream a new provider key now. They can do it at will , unexpectedly. This is the way it works... the key is part of the cmd07 itself, plus some constant bytes. There are sub-modules embedded which they can decrypt at will, instantly, done all in the cmd07.

After looking at this, other posts and the logs, I'm not entirely sure that the providers are willing to execute any kill packets as there is great potential to bring down legit subs. What this does look like is another atempt to force everyone back on autoroll which everyone knows has proven to be the only effective weakness to allow an effective ecm. The ability to stream new provider keys at will along with multiple daily key changes just may be enough for many people to risk running an autoroll program. Just my thoughts on this.

rg6a
02-26-2008, 11:43 PM
Stop giving him ideas, I don't have a back-up floppy drive. We would all be done like diner if he went for the drive, those things aren't easy to find these days.

FYI, your floppy drive is a dumb device & no chance of said Providers effin' with it.

Sleep Well Tonight.....;-)

rg6a
02-26-2008, 11:48 PM
[quote=mili]Don't say I did not warn you. Go without TV for the next day or so if you use straight up ROM102 or 103 cards especially if you use public numbers. It is only a hunch on my part but this latest ECM feel like herding sheep to the slaughter to me.


My Wife watched the Academy Awards Sunday night and thought of 'Black Sunday' and figured perhaps the other Providers would attempt a Dave, guess not.

She watched it on Cable. ;-)

fubr
02-27-2008, 12:00 AM
at least the fuckin usb-a and the enigma are working right now as an option to help in the plight to save the whales. or plastic whatever that is

spanga
02-27-2008, 12:44 AM
Red Alert?.......more like yellow or perhaps a dull orange.....i mean what colour would we hear if a loop is actually active in the stream?.....flourescent or flashing red and blue i suppose....lol

fubr
02-27-2008, 03:09 AM
he is not saying one is in the stream, it is looking like perfect timing though.
If they were ever going to send kill code this would be the time.

like I said I am glad the usb and the enigma are working right now.

actually it would be smarter to kill those then kill the plastic. anybody who is running plastic instead of emu or the de-vises like enigma id not to bright.
now if they dint work then yes ofcourse, use plastic, my point is why not use the one that cant get looped till it dont work.

jgould
02-27-2008, 03:37 AM
why would they attempt to loop plastic this weekend with UFC 82 on saturday. Huge risk wouldn't you say?? They don't want to take out subscriptions when they decide to drop the hammer. Just sounds stupid to even risk it.

BigAlBlues
02-27-2008, 04:07 AM
I would think that the ufc is no concern to the providers at this point. It's not a big name main event other than to the real mma fans anyway. And there are so many other ppv's that would have had huge numbers watching that they could have gotten us then. If it's coming, it's coming there's not much else to say, it could be anytime...

whitestuff
02-27-2008, 06:22 AM
seems like it would be perfect timing when plastics all that's running. those that rely on plastic as backup will be using it if there's nothing else. talk about herding sheep..

althor123
02-27-2008, 03:15 PM
Well you say they wouldnt hit with UFC coming up. They might not do a loop before UFC but they have triggered an ECM on UFC night. I know because i missed the fight that night. And yeah i think the UFC fan base is more than a few hardcore MMA fans. Id be suprised if the UFC didnt get more viewers then the last PPV boxing match.

kromedge
02-27-2008, 08:25 PM
What is the UFC??? Is it some kind of cartoon fighting thing??? No, wait I know - it's the Universal Fishing Challenge!!! Never heard of it but definately watch all the boxing PPV.

alero1
02-27-2008, 08:36 PM
Makes as much sense as checking if a gun is loaded by pointing it at your dick and squeezing the trigger.

mili


RLMAO.................:D

loafer62
02-27-2008, 10:29 PM
What does RLMAO mean?

rdj
02-27-2008, 10:48 PM
RLMAO = Really Laugh My Ass Off

ruciz
02-28-2008, 02:00 AM
After looking at this, other posts and the logs, I'm not entirely sure that the providers are willing to execute any kill packets as there is great potential to bring down legit subs. What this does look like is another atempt to force everyone back on autoroll which everyone knows has proven to be the only effective weakness to allow an effective ecm. The ability to stream new provider keys at will along with multiple daily key changes just may be enough for many people to risk running an autoroll program. Just my thoughts on this.
err, with a pending cardswap I doubt killing subs is of any issue to them.. just gets the swap done faster.

shouldn't RLMAO be 'Really Laughing My Ass Off' - just to be grammar'ly correct?
I like LMFAO.. RLMAO is just weird to type. :P

scottie
02-28-2008, 04:04 AM
What is the UFC??? Is it some kind of cartoon fighting thing??? No, wait I know - it's the Universal Fishing Challenge!!! Never heard of it but definately watch all the boxing PPV.

What have you been sleeping under a fking rock for the last ten years??? MMA kicks the shit out of boxing on its worst day! Boxing will be a thing of the past in a couple of years.

Sorry Mili - not trying to hijack - just had to comment!

whitestuff
02-28-2008, 06:50 AM
man i love ultimate falatio

kromedge
02-28-2008, 07:56 AM
What have you been sleeping under a fking rock for the last ten years??? MMA kicks the shit out of boxing on its worst day! Boxing will be a thing of the past in a couple of years.

Sorry Mili - not trying to hijack - just had to comment!

Time to chill out dude. Of course I know what the UFC is. I was only poking a little fun at the hype in here but I gotta admit that "Ultimate Felatio Championship" was far better than anything I could come up with.

LMFAO

BTW, I to apoligize for hijaking this thread.

loafer62
02-28-2008, 07:56 AM
Thanks for replying RDJ and ruciz. I believe I got what LMFAO stands for.


LMFAO

kromedge
02-28-2008, 08:19 AM
err, with a pending cardswap I doubt killing subs is of any issue to them.. just gets the swap done faster. :P

Like I said - just my thoughts. BTW, has anyone actually received a new card from Bev??

kya100
02-28-2008, 05:11 PM
hey guys any updates on possible looping rumors,fact or speculations

natalian
02-29-2008, 02:15 AM
hey guys any updates on possible looping rumors,fact or speculations
running 102 no loop yet .lol:D

kya100
02-29-2008, 03:40 AM
thanks nat didn't know the subject moved to here & now lol,just tryin to keep up on things don't want to crash & bash . oh by the way milli if you didn't bring it into range here be some real crap hittin the fan [cheers mate]

kromedge
03-03-2008, 08:44 PM
Ok peeps, maybe time to move away from the snags diversion. Anyone been logging the stream? I can't cuz my desktop is waiting parts and I'm down to an old laptop............:mad:

kya100
03-04-2008, 09:49 PM
well that was the last shot in the 4 shooter mecm ,does any one think it's safe[not that it ever is in this game] to take a chance with rom 102 ?private or public i've been on hold test'in both [appreciate any opinion]