ROM10x busted

[mili]

It is a sad day for the community, Snags was served in Canada with an Anton Piller order and his sites are gone. We had our differences in the past but this is not something I ever wanted to read about. A tragedy really.

ROM10x R.I.P.

mili

[kromedge]

It truly is a sad day in the testing community. Though I never really agreed with it becoming a pay site and refused to become a paying member, there were many talented people there who contributed a great deal to the testing community. I know I speak for all of us in wishing a fallen commrade support and best of luck during his time of trouble and misfortune.

[SEARCHY4]

how about the peeps names.are they in now worry of getting letters.did they get there user accounts names ect?

[Wiley-X]

Most of the "paying members" paid via Paypal (if I am not mistaken)....
Expect a LOT of letters to go out soon - Paypal gives up names and addresses without a fight.

[zhakrin]

Personally I was never much of a fan of what the 10x site turned into, however it was still one of the places few getting things done and innovated in the community.

fileshop in particular will be missed by many as a central database of testing files, if you could get on and didn't mind a slow download you could always find it there.


Snags's sites will be missed.

[Gordy420]

Most of the "paying members" paid via Paypal (if I am not mistaken)....
Expect a LOT of letters to go out soon - Paypal gives up names and addresses without a fight.Can't see how members would be affected.It legal to view infomation sites.Its what you do with the info that makes it illegal.

[fubr]

bad thing, I would not wish this on a broke dick dog or snags.
it is no surprise though, they were the biggest target and a good catcht for bev

[fubr]

ya'll see this

Quote:
[21:10] Snags: u there
[21:11] xxxx: yup
[21:11] Snags: how ya doin
[21:12] Snags: we need to chat
[21:12] xxxx: busy as hell
[21:12] xxxx: :P
[21:12] xxxx: but im here
[21:12] xxxx: :P
[21:12] xxxx: i never see you on msn anymore
[21:12] xxxx: :S
[21:12] Snags: i got busted
[21:12] xxxx: WHAT?
[21:12] Snags: yes
[21:13] Snags: on jan 24th i was servered a aton pillar order at my house
[21:13] xxxx: mrleaker rolled on yoru ass
[21:13] xxxx: man
[21:13] xxxx: because he got popped
[21:13] Snags: i have been under a court gag order
[21:13] Snags: that ran out last night at midnight
[21:13] Snags: i have to close all the site down today/
[21:14] Snags: or goto jail
[21:14] xxxxx: http://www.dssevolution.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif
[21:14] xxxx: im sorry man
[21:14] xxxx: did MrLeaker roll on you?
[21:14] xxxx: becuase i know he got busted
[21:14] xxxx: so i knew something happened
[21:14] Snags: i don't know yet but someone did
[21:14] Snags: and i don't think it was you
[21:14] xxxx: leaker rolled on you
[21:14] xxxx: i know he did
[21:14] xxxx: he had to
[21:14] xxxx: http://www.dssevolution.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
[21:14] xxxx: hes in jail right now
[21:14] Snags: JJ Gee was at my ouse when i got served
[21:15] xxxx: ow the fuck did they figure out where you lived
[21:15] xxxx: only thin i can figure is mrleaker
[21:15] Snags: i need to warn you trhey werte asking me about you
[21:15] Snags: i didn't say shit..
[21:15] xxxxx: http://www.dssevolution.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif
[21:15] Snags: you need to be very carefull
[21:16] Snags: i didn't rat on anyone
[21:16] xxxx: http://www.dssevolution.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif
[21:16] xxxx: not good
[21:16] Snags: u still there
[21:16] xxxx: that means im next
[21:16] xxxx: :P
[21:16] Snags: well you need to clean up your house and get rid of everything for now
[21:17] Snags: he asked me where you lived and contact info on you
[21:17] Snags: but as you k now i have no clue
[21:18] xxxxx: hmm
[21:18] Snags: i don't ask those type of questions to anyone
[21:18] xxxx: welp
[21:18] xxxx: time for xxxxxxx to retire
[21:18] Snags: ya you need to change your username to something else and lay low..
[21:19] Snags: i am telling you this cause you have been great to me and i don';t want anything bad to happen
[21:19] xxxx: i know
[21:19] xxxx: man.
[21:19] Snags: they are sueing me for 20 million
[21:19] xxxx: this is fucked up
[21:20] xxxx: its turning into a DTV deal
[21:20] xxxx: http://www.dssevolution.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif
[21:20] Snags: yep
[21:20] Snags: they came in my house and grabbed everything
[21:21] xxxx: the furniture and everything
[21:21] Snags: no just anything to do with the websites
[21:21] xxxx: like PCs and sat shit?
[21:21] Snags: computers irds, cards all tha stuff
[21:23] xxxx: this aint goo
[21:23] xxxx: they are most likely logging this MSN convo
[21:23] xxxx: i got a gut feeling MrLeaker rolled on ur ass
[21:23] xxxx: i know it
[21:23] xxxx: becuase hes busted and in jail
[21:23] xxxx: http://www.dssevolution.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif
[21:23] Snags: maybe
[21:26] xxxx: im scared shitless now
[21:26] xxxx: http://www.dssevolution.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif
[21:26] xxxx: they are doing this
[21:26] xxxx: because they know this tactic worked
[21:26] xxxx: at the end of dave
[21:26] Snags: u need to be carefull bro
[21:27] Snags: tale my warning very serious
[21:27] Snags: take
[21:27] xxxx: so basically
[21:27] xxxx: im on thier "watch" list now
[21:27] Snags: ya
[21:28] Snags: jj gee asked what your name was where u lived and all that other stuff.. I said i have no idea cause we do not share personal info
[21:28] xxxx: well
[21:28] xxxx: moddish has my info
[21:28] xxxx: where ive ordered stuff from him
[21:28] xxxx: and u payed
[21:28] xxxx: rememebr
[21:28] Snags: yeah
[21:28] xxxx: me, and 50 others from rom10x
[21:28] Snags: did moddish get busted
[21:28] xxxx: dont know
[21:28] xxxx: but if not,
[21:29] xxxx: he needs to close
[21:29] xxxx: get all of his data
[21:29] xxxx: and SHRED it
[21:29] xxxx: i mean absolutely crush the ahrd drives and all his backups
[21:29] Snags: all you need to do is get rid of everything and wipe your HD
[21:32] Snags: brb
[21:32] xxxx: k

[JT]

So it's official then. Bummer. Sure glad I'm not a member of rom10x now. Looks like mili's files section is going to be a bit more popular now.

[zhakrin]

He was running a sat site and had all that stuff in his house?

Did people learn nothing from Ristar?

[doeling]

Another reason to stick with Mili on everything related to this hobby. How many times has Mili said Canada is not a safe place to order shit from. Tis very sad though. Can't even imagine the stress of a 20 million dollar lawsuit.

[smart_toys]

I hope my Lifetime carp dont bite me in the ass. I hope he Destroys all info on the servers.

[unknowncomic]

I hope my Lifetime carp dont bite me in the ass. I hope he Destroys all info on the servers.

He cant do that, besides, I would about bet they have his servers, and friday night when the site went down probably was not Snags doing, but the providers. Who knows..best of luck to him and all that may suffer from this latest turn of events.

[empulse]

He cant do that, besides, I would about bet they have his servers, and friday night when the site went down probably was not Snags doing, but the providers. Who knows..best of luck to him and all that may suffer from this latest turn of events.

wow. takes an earthquake to get you to post lately.. :)

[pecker88]

very sad indeed. Seems that whenever the unlooper thread gets going, something goes down!! I'm sure the events aren't connected, but just a cooincidence! Sum1 said it himeslf yesterday.

At any rate, this is a huge loss of information. Their was more info there then many other sites combined. If r10x refugees are looking for a new home...theXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[empulse]

So how far reaching is this gonna be. I can't imagine the info they must have just got their filthy lawyer hands on. iicckk. makes my belly hurt thinking about it. So next mECM ol' mili's is gonna be a popular place.

[The Lizard King]

The only thing that I have registered on RTX is my e-mail account. Now, if the providers wanted to dig further into it, I'm sure that yahoo and hotmail would give up userid personal information, but I'm not sure that they're intently after the end user at this point.

So much for a "lifetime" membership! Anytime anyone or any business offers a "lifetime" membership, I always ask the same question: "Who's lifetime? Mine or yours?" :)

TLK :cool:

[unknowncomic]

So much for a "lifetime" membership! Anytime anyone or any business offers a "lifetime" membership, I always ask the same question: "Who's lifetime? Mine or yours?" :)

TLK :cool:
I dont think I would be to worried about a membership right now, and this all has a bad smell to it, reminds me of Dave Tv days..I think the end users or testers should start becoming very concerned. Best of luck to everyone from here on out. I think myself Im gonna cut and run, time to break camp. LOL..my buddy has been asking me to come down South of the border and live with him and his wife, help him with his company, seems to me like this is a good time to do it...

[JT]

I wouldn't worry about it too much if your just an end user. They're still sticking to dealers and site admin's for the moment. I have heard rumor of a few nearly end users getting letters, but by and large, if your just an end user then you should be pretty safe. Make sure you have a very good firewall and log in with a proxy and you should be fine. Also, keep it safe. It surprises me how many site admins and dealers reside in North America. It's been said at least a 1,000 times before, but that is a recipe for disaster. It's only a matter of time before some kind of legal action if the dealer or site admin resides in NA. That's why I stick with mili and basically don't even visit other forums. I know he genuinely is off shore. I mean physically. Mili does not reside in North America. However, if snags knows your personal contact information, I'd say worry and start cleaning your house right now! Not saying snags will roll over. Just saying cover your ass just in case.

[MarvinGardens]

Learning from Dave's mistake, Charlie appears to only go after end-users that he can prove has one of his IRD's.

So if your name is on one of Rom10x's/Paypal lists and you are a past or present Charlie subscriber then I would be very concerned.

[j0n3s]

I doubt very much they'll be going after or preparing legal cases against thousands of people.. I think they're happy just closing probably the number 1 sight... plus going after dealers and coders... sorry to say I hope all is well for them. I'm a member but I don't test anything.... I used to back in the day but.. now I stick around to help and out of obsession. Plus, how would they know who to send letter to and on behalf of who? For example...I may have a legit untouched bev sub but never tested it... what if I tested Dish... who send me a letter? Or if I have a legit Charlie sub and never test charlie etc...

In my first example... BEV wouldn't have a leg to stand on. They couldn't prove who I tested and simply belonging to a site doesn't implicate a user..... all the more reason I think they're just concerned with shutting down a popular site... and maybe going after dealers and the big boys.... thank God I'm much to stupid to be a big boy. I wish everyone involved all the best....

[kromedge]

The only thing that I have registered on RTX is my e-mail account. Now, if the providers wanted to dig further into it, I'm sure that yahoo and hotmail would give up userid personal information, but I'm not sure that they're intently after the end user at this point. TLK :cool:

All my personal info on Yahoo and Hotmail is bogus which is why I use those accounts when registering on any forum / board whether it be sat testing, bit torrent sites, lockpicking etc etc because you just never know when something like this can bite you in the ass. I'm also hardware firewalled on my "hobby computer" which is down right now and more often than not proxy my way in. Sure its a little slower but I feel a little better about it all and thats what matters. I always wondered about the legitimacy of RTX going strictly as a pay site in the sense that you are now profiting from it which in reality puts you in the same class as a dealer and we all know how many dealers have been busted. I'm just glad I never bought into that site and last time I checked it would no longer recognize my username.

[Bandit5906]

What exactly was or is the basis for him being served? I would think that providing the information is not the same as doing?

[Bandit5906]

All my personal info on Yahoo and Hotmail is bogus which is why I use those accounts when registering on any forum / board whether it be sat testing, bit torrent sites, lockpicking etc etc because you just never know when something like this can bite you in the ass. I'm also hardware firewalled on my "hobby computer" which is down right now and more often than not proxy my way in. Sure its a little slower but I feel a little better about it all and thats what matters. I always wondered about the legitimacy of RTX going strictly as a pay site in the sense that you are now profiting from it which in reality puts you in the same class as a dealer and we all know how many dealers have been busted. I'm just glad I never bought into that site and last ime I checked it would no longer recognize my username

This post came in while I was typing: I understand the part about the same as a dealer.

[Yongone]

Aside from shutting down the site and some dubious chat posted, is there any proof????

I am VERY skeptical about this "bust". In the past the anton Pillar raids have 5-20 people showing up at the person's place. All of a sudden this one is kept secret.

Unless I see the PDF with the lawsuit info in it, this is snaggie's way to jump ship, keeping the money and blaming it on a bogus event.

[fread]

Aside from shutting down the site and some dubious chat posted, is there any proof????

I am VERY skeptical about this "bust". In the past the anton Pillar raids have 5-20 people showing up at the person's place. All of a sudden this one is kept secret.

Unless I see the PDF with the lawsuit info in it, this is snaggie's way to jump ship, keeping the money and blaming it on a bogus event.
Echostar Satellite, L.L.C. et al v. Fahed
Plaintiffs: Echostar Satellite, L.L.C. and EchoStar Technologies, L.L.C..
Defendants: George Fahed

C&P from another site.


Case Number: 3:2008cv01201
Filed: February 13, 2008

Court: Puerto Rico District Court
Office: San Juan Office [ Court Info ]
County: XX US, Outside State
Presiding Judge: Chief Judge Jose A Fuste

Nature of Suit: Other Statutes - Cable/Satellite TV
Cause: 28:1331 Fed Question: Fed Communications Act of 1
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Jury Demanded By: None
Amount Demanded: $20,000,000.00
here is the link hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/93821031/puertorico_demanda.pdf.htmlhere you go sad day in the testing comm

[The Lizard King]

Echostar Satellite, L.L.C. et al v. Fahed
Plaintiffs: Echostar Satellite, L.L.C. and EchoStar Technologies, L.L.C..
Defendants: George Fahed

C&P from another site. <snip>
So, George Fahed = Snags/Snaggletooth?

TLK :cool:

[skinerd]

The file clearly states it is a civil action, so...why was his shit siezed?

[lump72]

The only thing that I have registered on RTX is my e-mail account. Now, if the providers wanted to dig further into it, I'm sure that yahoo and hotmail would give up userid personal information, but I'm not sure that they're intently after the end user at this point.

So much for a "lifetime" membership! Anytime anyone or any business offers a "lifetime" membership, I always ask the same question: "Who's lifetime? Mine or yours?" :)

TLK :cool:
i would hope who ever use'es a hotmail or yahoo account at these kind of sites "puts fake info not real info as too who you are " :eek:

[The Lizard King]

So, George Fahed = Snags/Snaggletooth?
I doubt it. Snags is/was in BC. This George dude is/was in PR.

TLK :cool:

[DB]

Echostar Satellite, L.L.C. et al v. Fahed
Plaintiffs: Echostar Satellite, L.L.C. and EchoStar Technologies, L.L.C..
Defendants: George Fahed

C&P from another site.


Case Number: 3:2008cv01201
Filed: February 13, 2008

Court: Puerto Rico District Court
Office: San Juan Office [ Court Info ]
County: XX US, Outside State
Presiding Judge: Chief Judge Jose A Fuste

Nature of Suit: Other Statutes - Cable/Satellite TV
Cause: 28:1331 Fed Question: Fed Communications Act of 1
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Jury Demanded By: None
Amount Demanded: $20,000,000.00
here is the link hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/93821031/puertorico_demanda.pdf.htmlhere you go sad day in the testing commI just skimmed over it really fast, but didn't see any mention of rom10x. The onlything that I seen what George"s satellite as the bussiness. So unless Snags was dumb enough to own that and run a forum. Maybe you can point it out for me how this ties to rom10x. Cause I am missing it I guess.


I guess hosting the keys and files at another site did nothing to help him in the end. I still feel this is just his way out and nothing more. All BS so he can take your cash and run.

[DB]

i would hope who ever use'es a hotmail or yahoo account at these kind of sites "puts fake info not real info as too who you are " :eek:Ya know. I thought that was the whole point of getting a couple of thoses email accounts. Why on earth someone would put there real info in is beyond me.

[ruciz]

They were still going after this site? Honestly thought after it went 'underground' and very few things were coming from it that would be kaput. Guess TFS was an issue for concern tho.

Best to ya snags... Hope everything works out for the better.

[kromedge]

Echostar Satellite, L.L.C. et al v. Fahed
Plaintiffs: Echostar Satellite, L.L.C. and EchoStar Technologies, L.L.C..
Defendants: George Fahed

C&P from another site.


Case Number: 3:2008cv01201
Filed: February 13, 2008

Court: Puerto Rico District Court
Office: San Juan Office [ Court Info ]
County: XX US, Outside State
Presiding Judge: Chief Judge Jose A Fuste

Nature of Suit: Other Statutes - Cable/Satellite TV
Cause: 28:1331 Fed Question: Fed Communications Act of 1
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Jury Demanded By: None
Amount Demanded: $20,000,000.00
here is the link hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/93821031/puertorico_demanda.pdf.htmlhere you go sad day in the testing comm

I don't think that Puerto Rico or the FCC has any jurisdiction in Canada. Having said that, I should add that in addition to my previous post the Canadian authorities will likely if nothing else charge him with income tax evasion considering that "Donations" were no longer optional but mandatory.

[Dragster]

I don't feel sorry for the guy,he was always asking for more donations from members crying the blues to keep the site going.You could'nt voice your opinion in threads,or they banned you.The guy was pocketing some good cash what he did.You can bet he will cutting a deal with the feds from the paid members list.They were watching him before he decided to go as a pay site,and it caught up with him.

[magnus_h]

basically he jacked charlie and he jacked his paid members?

[kromedge]

You could'nt voice your opinion in threads,or they banned you.

I hear ya on that one. I remember that fatass drunk NorHack banning me just because I pointed out a contradiction in one of his posts.

[The Lizard King]

I hear ya on that one. I remember that fatass drunk NorHack banning me just because I pointed out a contradiction in one of his posts.
I don't understand banning someone who has a "lifetime" membership. Definitely an oxymoron, like graduate student or military intelligence.

TLK :cool:

[j0n3s]

The PFG file states it's Charlie against George.... so, BEV might be appreciative for their efforts and will reap the benifits HUGE but I don't think us Kanuck have anything to worry about... I was a paying member at Rom10X but I have go there out of ebsession ever since the DTV days.... I have a legit sub and don't test my sub or my provider..... in any event I wouldn't worry -- this is a civil matter which begs the question... why not go after them criminally? It would be easier to win in civil court with a criminal conviction. I don't feel burned with respect to my $ -- I pais month to month because I was / am kinda out of the hobby but I still like to learn about what's going on.... and help a few peeps along the way.

[kromedge]

The file clearly states it is a civil action, so...why was his shit siezed?
Heya Skinerd,
I really don't believe that file had anything to do with Snaggs. If an Anton Piller was issued, criminal charges were almost certainly laid.
His shit was probably seized because the Anton Piller Order allows it. Check it out.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Piller_order#Anton_Piller_orders_in_Canada

[alsouthster]

The file clearly states it is a civil action, so...why was his shit siezed?

Anton Pillar order allows the plaintiff acces to the business to search and seize stuff before the defendant may even know there is a claim against them..

The george fahed case, meanwhile, is something totally different, George Satellite in Puerto Rico...

[scorps]

Still confused why the Fileshop is closed down. I thought it was owed by someone else not Snags or RTX

[kromedge]

Still confused why the Fileshop is closed down. I thought it was owed by someone else not Snags or RTX


No, it was all part and parcel on the same server.

[PigBenis]

So! you think theyre coming over? hehe

[j0n3s]

I'm a tad confused.... if the AP was served back in January and the civil case filed Feb 13 why were the sites up and running until Friday?

[DB]

I'm a tad confused.... if the AP was served back in January and the civil case filed Feb 13 why were the sites up and running until Friday?Maybe Dish had control of the sites at that time. It wouldn't suprise me.


As far as the fileshop there's no doubt he owned that too. Thats why it is shut down too.

[kromedge]

I'm a tad confused.... if the AP was served back in January and the civil case filed Feb 13 why were the sites up and running until Friday?

Cuz that file you read had shit to do with RTX. Some clown found it and posted the link saying it was the suit against Snaggs which of course was a load of crap. RTX was in Canada, and served an Aton Piller Order issued by a Canadian court and served by Canadian Authorities. Puerto Rican courts and the FCC have no jurisdiction in Canada period.

[leeaman7777]

Blonde_Bitch has now also been sued by the providers for the sum of $10 Million. Blonde_Bitch is a well known admin/mod from sites like FTAPeople, FTA-Newbies, & HashHu.

[skinerd]

Someone please, cut thru the BS and crap......post links to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth......stop with speculation....

[leeaman7777]

No speculation about Blonde_Bitch - she posted at satscams this afternoon - admitted to being sued.

[Crazy1_79]

damn, sad day indeed, I don't care if you liked the man or not. this is something you don't wish on anyone.

[satnutzz]

.......FUK....i guess this means no more mili/snags slagfests...damm they were a hoot.....

[j0n3s]

Cuz that file you read had shit to do with RTX. Some clown found it and posted the link saying it was the suit against Snaggs which of course was a load of crap. RTX was in Canada, and served an Aton Piller Order issued by a Canadian court and served by Canadian Authorities. Puerto Rican courts and the FCC have no jurisdiction in Canada period.


But the IM conversation stated he was served January 24 or something like that???? Is the IM conversation BS too???? Ughhhh so confused.. lol

[Ohms]

It is very sad, but hopefully he won't do any jail time.

[leeaman7777]

Snags just posted this at Satscams:



hey guys..

thanks to those who have supported me and still do..


For those that don't understand a anton pillar order. please do not guess at it..

It is court order by a judge.. You have no say in the matter.. If you do not do everything on the order you will end up in jail like Tomico is..

I did not rat on anyone, including Mr.Leaker

Mr leaker and i are friend and i would never do that to him.

I complied with the order and at the end had to close my site down.. i was in full control of the site till i closed it..

And this:

yes they raided my house.. Once they raid you and you are served there is nothing you can do.. trust me on this..

As part of the anton pillar order i was told the site had to be closed by a certain date or be pulled into court. My lawyer fought the best he could but in the end they said if it is not closed by today they would drag me into court and ask for a jail sentence.. I am not into going to jail so i had the site closed.

they did not have control of my site.. they were watching the site and if anything funny happened i would have been in jail

the press release from nagrastar should be out anyday

The gag order was pushed forward by the lawyer while the anton pillar order was inafect..

It ran out at midnight on feb 29th

[j0n3s]

Snags just posted this at Satscams:


Too bad he never mentioned anything about the identiity of his members... he did say however that he was in control until the end..... and that he didn;t rat anyone out.. I;ll have to assume that includes his membership.



Tooooooo bad snags... I for one will miss 10X.... but in the end look out for yourself.

[day_tona2]

so anyone who just visited the site should be ok if he had controle over it. anyone who sent money to him prob screwed

[j0n3s]

so anyone who just visited the site should be ok if he had controle over it. anyone who sent money to him prob screwed

It was a closed site -- you can't visit without being a paid member.

Why? The website wasn't illegal.... I paid for a few months.. I'm not worried... if going to the website was illegal everyone here would be screwed too (I presume this site isn't illegal).....

The last time they cared about end-users was when certain sites got busted and people's credit card info was seized because they bought illegal equipment.. then the letters went out.

Again, I don't know what's wrong with going to 10X... I went there and supported it because I learned how to repair my receivers... I didn;t mind paying a few bucks for that service....

[fubr]

I am not trying to rub salt in any wounds but the way the site was run was a mess anyway
50 admins and mods, thousands of members, banning at freewill with no remorse and out of control staff for the most part. Driving into usa to get mail with donations(subscription dues) was a matter of time before it got canned. How many times was the place hacked by disgruntled staff or maybe even mr leaker.

on the other hand this could be all bullshit and snaggs wanted an easy way out. I have not been there for many many months so I cant say my life will be less without it, I simply did not use it so how can I miss it.

I do hope snags has no more bad luck, I cant understand how he can post on forums or be on msn AFTER he got served.

so either way good luck to all who are involved.

[cobras1]

i wouldnt worry those letters are just scare tacktics they have no proof that if something was actually sent and delivered. I for one signed for a box that was empty and I did get a letter from DTV did not respond and nothing ever happened because they cannot prove anything ever came to my house by a mer customer list so many scams out there especially in this business NO WORRIES HERE

[Bandit5906]

So what does this all mean? I am confused as to all of this!

Nevermind I have found Snags' posts on another site which details some of this information.

[fubr]

bandit, it means rom10x is gone is the gist of it, bye bye, out of service.
unless that card coder guy buys the domain name and calls it rox10x.net or some shit LOL

[13leafs]

Exactly, ...this won't happen. But if it ever did, just scrunch it up and use it to start your next fire... The worst thing you could do would be to respond to it or follow the instructions. Funny thing is, most people are idiots and will.

Can't see how members would be affected.It legal to view infomation sites.Its what you do with the info that makes it illegal.

[13leafs]

What are you Al Capone?

I dont think I would be to worried about a membership right now, and this all has a bad smell to it, reminds me of Dave Tv days..I think the end users or testers should start becoming very concerned. Best of luck to everyone from here on out. I think myself Im gonna cut and run, time to break camp. LOL..my buddy has been asking me to come down South of the border and live with him and his wife, help him with his company, seems to me like this is a good time to do it...

[ruciz]

The game is on now.. swap the cards and shut down the sites that people use to spread info about them.

As end users I don't think there'shave much to worry about for this round. They knew about R10x for over 2 years now (its was around since Aug 05 I believe) and they are just getting to shutting it down NOW. It has virtually no impact on anyone except the owner and likely a few admins/mods.. Mainly seems the Canadian authorities were more concerned with his 'donation' scheme and since its tax-time ..... I don't think dish/bell will hit the end users, maybe if their new 240 cards are hacked - but for some reason I doubt that will happen, at least any time soon.

[j0n3s]

I think to go after end users would be so incredibly circumstantial at best.... If I test if I live in the US and have a legit Charlie sub but never tested Charlie how could Charlie give me grief? If I live in Canada and leave BEV alone how can she give me a hard time. I really doubt either provider are going to mount anything cross-border.... plus I went to 10X to play poker and learn how to fix my receiver and saved money doing so. From time to time I help some peeps by pointing out threads or things like that that they may find helpful.

in short, the evidence is very weak so I am pretty confident they're just trying to shut down sites.. who knows maybe 10X was the 1st in a line of sites yet to come....Have they ever gone after end users? OTHER than when hardware sellers got raided and people got letters because of their purchases...back in the Dave days... They didn;t get letters because of the websites they surfed... I think they got nailed because of credit card purchases.

I thought BEV was about to be sold -- I'd be surprised if they get more physical.. not that I'm teasing her though....

Man I hope nothing much happens to Snags....

[The Lizard King]

Has anyone heard the rumor about the unlooper.
Dude. Start your own damn thread about an unlooper, and quit trying to hijack this thread...

TLK :cool:

[Yongone]

Puerto Rico to my knowledge does not have or use Anton pillar. So there's something real fishy about seize orders from a P.R. court.

Secondly, can someone explain how someone in Canada is sued in Puerto Rico?

[The Lizard King]

Puerto Rico to my knowledge does not have or use Anton pillar. So there's something real fishy about seize orders from a P.R. court.

Secondly, can someone explain how someone in Canada is sued in Puerto Rico?
Other than they deal with satellite piracy, these are two completely unrelated events.

HTH.

TLK :cool:

[j0n3s]

Puerto Rico to my knowledge does not have or use Anton pillar. So there's something real fishy about seize orders from a P.R. court.

Secondly, can someone explain how someone in Canada is sued in Puerto Rico?

I seriously doubt the AP that you`re refering to is legit (as it pertains to Snags). Apparently Snags got served January 24... the legal document that someone posted as a PDF is dated Feb 13..... not the same thing I would imagine.

[ge2]

So basically he new on Jan 24 that he will be shutting his site down and still was accepting "donations" up untill end of February ... Btw when did he start "Am I a dickhead" thread - about January 24?

[Bandit5906]

Why not fill us in with the "Am I a DH" for those of us who did not go there?

[bclinton79]

Snags started a poll to see what people thought of him and allowed users to comment without penalties. This poll started somewhere around middle to late Jan. if I'm not mistaken.

[Bandit5906]

Any thoughts as to why he would do that? Sort of odd I think.

[Morphius]

That Puerto Rico document has nothing to do with the case against Snags, or the Anton Pillar that was served upon him.

The AP was served on Jan 23. He was issues a Gag order and could not speak of it on his site or to anyone or he would have violated terms and been in jail for contempt.

As soon as the Gag was lifted on Feb29 ( midnight ) he had already arranged for its shutdown.

The bigest issue here is that they want to put the TheFileShop and Rom10X into one ownership scenario making the amount of laws broken quite large.

Revenue Canada will have their way with him AFTER the discovery is released by SI and then whatever facts JJ Gee seems to input about cash intake.

I'm quite sure Moddish has some issues of his own related to this as well.

As far as end users..... I doubt you have any worries, unless you were an intrical part of some hack or program release or creator of a GUI, ect.

The part that sux if that timeframe from Jan 23 to Feb 29 when members knew nothing and SI was sitting around reading posts and reading everything. trying to see if they could get some more info on people. Also some of the higher up ADMINs didn't have much time or notice to prepare themselves and its those guys that are worried.

Also FYI the new ROM was said to have been compromised along with the public release of the VIP IRD hack. Those were true slaps at the provider who already had their man but still watched technology advance..... Now for sure those usernames you wont see again, and those guys are deep deep underground until the dust settles.

I wonder if Snags has his passport or if they took from him.

I hear extradition from Venezuala ir really tough, and when you arrive they give you nice cold glass of sweet crude oil and say Welcome to Caraccas.

So now that facts are pretty clear STOP posting that silly Puerto Rican document all over it is NOT related.

Laterzzzz Ya'lllll :cool:

[spanga]

what was the point of a 38 day gag order?......aye, that's the rub

[retiredguy]

The AP was served on Jan 23. He was issues a Gag order and could not speak of it on his site or to anyone or he would have violated terms and been in jail for contempt.

As soon as the Gag was lifted on Feb29 ( midnight ) he had already arranged for its shutdown.

The bigest issue here is that they want to put the TheFileShop and Rom10X into one ownership scenario making the amount of laws broken quite large.

Revenue Canada will have their way with him AFTER the discovery is released by SI and then whatever facts JJ Gee seems to input about cash intake.

I'm quite sure Moddish has some issues of his own related to this as well.

As far as end users..... I doubt you have any worries, unless you were an intrical part of some hack or program release or creator of a GUI, ect.

The part that sux if that timeframe from Jan 23 to Feb 29 when members knew nothing and SI was sitting around reading posts and reading everything. trying to see if they could get some more info on people. Also some of the higher up ADMINs didn't have much time or notice to prepare themselves and its those guys that are worried.

Also FYI the new ROM was said to have been compromised along with the public release of the VIP IRD hack. Those were true slaps at the provider who already had their man but still watched technology advance..... Now for sure those usernames you wont see again, and those guys are deep deep underground until the dust settles.

I wonder if Snags has his passport or if they took from him.

I hear extradition from Venezuala ir really tough, and when you arrive they give you nice cold glass of sweet crude oil and say Welcome to Caraccas.

So now that facts are pretty clear STOP posting that silly Puerto Rican document all over it is NOT related.

Laterzzzz Ya'lllll :cool:

And you are stating these as facts or believed to be true statements. I dont know what to think because I dont believe a thing that he types and he is now posting like crazy at satscams among other fishy things about all this

[Bandit5906]

RG what do you really think is going on here? Something just doesn't seem right, but that is just me.

[retiredguy]

I honestly do not know but, I do know that Snaggs does not always tell the truth. He has been caught in many lies and things just dont add up with him having a gag order and today he is posting like crazy and they seem to me like the same lame "im broke and need your money" answers he would always give. Im not saying that it didnt happen, im just want to see some proof other than Snaggs word.

[spanga]

with the amount of ching collected via "donations" (reports are at somewhere around half a million $'s......probably less) and the banning of anyone who even hinted at being against the idea while these were being solicited, my instincts call bullshit!......unless i see a verifiable report of an order or at least a bev or dn release about this, that wil remain my call.....if i'm wrong then i wish snaggs all the best of luck in his situation.......if i'm right, well, what can we say......the lemmings got doinked....i'll add that right when the site went down someone posted at another site that a message came up about contacting the server's financial departement.....that message didn't last long.....end of the month and all.....who knows whassup..... i have my own thoughts on the matter and sure won't be the first around here to eat crow if i'm wrong.......lol

[Bandit5906]

I remain hopeful that it is just more BS, but then we will have to wait and see! I remember Risestar and just shake my head at it all!

Spanga has been around and I respect his voice! Still there is a lot of other voices suggesting otherwise. In this case I hope it is BS.

[ggjayjay]

I do wonder how much had to do with the new 102 unlocker also the Rom 206 hack Vip receivers and that they just about had the Unlooper done for the Rom 102!!!! Sounds like enough to really piss dish and Bev off!! Too bad it was not let out befor the bust went down!!

[pecker88]

its pretty good that if the bust is real, and 3rd party was in control of the site that vip hack gets released, and major progress on an unlooper unfolds. Taking down the biggest site and progress is still made. What a slap in the face for SI dept.

[spanga]

who the hell, under total court control and about have his ass sued off and/or go to jail, would post in open forums and public chat rooms, that all his cronies who are possibly going to suffer his fate, destroy their records and lay low.....might as well tie the noose and kick out the chair himself...right after firing his lawyer.....lol......this reeks until i see a deoderizer

[retiredguy]

and think of as money hungry as Snaggs is, he would wait until the last possible second to take the donation money and run. Why did the phoenix team change homesites a few days before 10x closes. why is snaggs posting like crazy at satscams and they sound so similar to hi BS answers when money begging. but only time will tell. he got the gag order and the authorities had control of the site but they continue to release files. wouldnt that be some sore of entrapment.

[Bandit5906]

Yup!

[MoFo]

Why did the phoenix team change homesites a few days before 10x closes.

must have missed that what site they goto?

[simon1]

i pity all the people that sent money with paypal to that money hungry sob
beware of where you buy from
n those that bought from snags sponsors gl to u2
ba safe pay a few xtra $$ n buy from mili
i'm not endorsing mili but n00bs need a safe place for testing hardware

[kromedge]

I agree that things are starting to look a bit fishy. If all of this "speculation" and I use the term loosely somehow translates into truth, then ol Snaggs just pulled off one of the biggest scams in the history of the internet. The guy was always bitching about not having fast enough servers or enough bandwidth yet had sponsors coming out the ying yang and if that wasn't enough decided to go as a pay site under the guise of going underground and somehow never ever upgraded his equipment or bought additional bandwidth. So the real question remains - where is all the money?

[simon1]

I agree that things are starting to look a bit fishy. If all of this "speculation" and I use the term loosely somehow translates into truth, then ol Snaggs just pulled off one of the biggest scams in the history of the internet. The guy was always bitching about not having fast enough servers or enough bandwidth yet had sponsors coming out the ying yang and if that wasn't enough decided to go as a pay site under the guise of going underground and somehow never ever upgraded his equipment or bought additional bandwidth. So the real question remains - where is all the money?

lol ask snags where he hidin it lol
his lawyers gonna take a nice chunk
i'm sure he gave some to his pets @ 10x

[kromedge]

Here is a C&P of a thread from another site. I read this a while back and find it somewhat noteworthy.



I rarely start bullshit but would like to discuss this situation to see what others think.

Today Snags posted this at Rom10X


Quote:
Getting Tired Of The BS

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A month back i told you all that we have a no BS policy here and if you break it you will be removed from the site.

I'm getting really sick of all this...Rom10x is gonna get cut down to a small group of coders and testers..

At that time i will move the site to one server and send it deep underground where no one but the members will ever find it..

If you want to be a part of that then you need to stick to testing and stop posting this BS on my site...

The ban button is on and all staff can use it at anytime for any BS post..

Don't matter who you are.. If you wanna spread rumors do it somewhere else.. Your only posts here should be about testing..

Thank you

Snags
Now.. not sure if you guys remember but back in October Snags created a LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP for $200 a pop. This membership was supposed to be limited to 150 members thus generating $30,000 in revenues. Members were promised that he would use this extra cash to purchase new servers so that he would no longer have to beg members for $$ every month to pay the bills.

Here are a couple quotes where he says this in his own words.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaggletooth
Thanks guys for the support... In the long run this will keep rom10x open forever. Once the money is raised and we buy our own servers... this site will be so fast and the server bills will be so low... I won't be stressing out at the end of the month..

Remember we only have so many lifetime memberships
and


Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaggletooth
The money is going to buy our own servers... Since we opened rom10x we have been renting them and let me tell ya they cost alot..

So the plan is to buy our own.. and set them up and ship them oversea's to a hosting center where we rent a rack..

Doing this we can get faster more powerfull servers and higher speed bandwidth..

Once this is done we will be looking at saving over 2,000 per month on server rentals...

We limited the amount of lifetime members to what we feel it will cost to get this whole thing done and setup..

So far it's been a big hit... but there are still some spots left...
As of today Snags has now cancelled 1 server and plans on dropping another server in the near future. Some Rom10X members appear to be very upset over this decision because they are now wondering .. where did our 30K in donations go ?

My question to the members/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Would you not consider accepting 30K from members and not providing them with what was promised a scam ? While these funds were considered a donation and donating members are not actually out a service I beleive these funds were collected under false pretenses.

Comments ?

[kronicSJ]

It is a sad day for the community, Snags was served in Canada with an Anton Piller order and his sites are gone. We had our differences in the past but this is not something I ever wanted to read about. A tragedy really.

ROM10x R.I.P.

mili


a very stand up post,
I have read the "KIND WORDZ" LOL you and snags have shared with eachother in the past, and I know there's NOT much love lost between the two of you,
but on your part Mili it shows TOP SHELF INTEGRITY to set aside your differences and show ppl that despite ppl's differences with eachother in the dss community as a whole it's STILL sad to see a fellow tester go down,
there are some problems I have with snags also, but to see him OR ANYONE get busted, well it's just sad,....

a very top shelf post Mili.,....

[kronicSJ]

Echostar Satellite, L.L.C. et al v. Fahed
Plaintiffs: Echostar Satellite, L.L.C. and EchoStar Technologies, L.L.C..
Defendants: George Fahed

C&P from another site.


Case Number: 3:2008cv01201
Filed: February 13, 2008

Court: Puerto Rico District Court
Office: San Juan Office [ Court Info ]
County: XX US, Outside State
Presiding Judge: Chief Judge Jose A Fuste

Nature of Suit: Other Statutes - Cable/Satellite TV
Cause: 28:1331 Fed Question: Fed Communications Act of 1
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Jury Demanded By: None
Amount Demanded: $20,000,000.00
here is the link hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/93821031/puertorico_demanda.pdf.htmlhere you go sad day in the testing comm

that is NOT snags,

the C/P, you posted was posted at another site by a dood that was looking for info on recent sat busts to see if anything came up on snags, (I know the dood that found and posted it), he DID'NT find any paper on snags but found that paper on Geroge Fahid and he posted it ASKING if ANYONE knew WHO George Fahid was, I imagine to warn ppl that if they knew fahid that he was busted so they could be cautious, (that's the kind of person the ORIGINAL poster is, he cares about ppl in the dss community),....

[garysam]

Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think Anton Pillar search orders are a Civil measure, not criminal and sometimes accompanied by a Mareva Injunction, which is where the siezure part comes in. Past cases in Canada have dealt with trademark and copyright infringements, which certainly applies here. The only way anyone is going to jail would be for a contempt of court issue.

[Sikorsky]

Quote:
Originally Posted by unknowncomic
I dont think I would be to worried about a membership right now, and this all has a bad smell to it, reminds me of Dave Tv days..I think the end users or testers should start becoming very concerned. Best of luck to everyone from here on out. I think myself Im gonna cut and run, time to break camp. LOL..my buddy has been asking me to come down South of the border and live with him and his wife, help him with his company, seems to me like this is a good time to do it...

What are you Al Capone?

Pick me up a taco when you reach the border LMAO :D

Paranoia has settled in once again

[spanga]

if this reported gag order was only lifted friday, chances are that the pilar order filing wouldn't be available for viewing until the next business days (today being the first).....we'll see what surfaces over the next coupla days

[gooding]

Pretty cut and Dry //

We dont see a APO.. or Court Doc.# then Slags took the $$ and shud down ..plain and simple //

WE wait till then ..all this will come out in the Next few days ..

anyone can make up a MSN convo.. and say what they want ..we wait till papers are posted ..

and Slags Real name with RTX attatced with the 3 other sites under Vbull ...

:rolleyes:

[NYSE]

Pretty cut and Dry //

We dont see a APO.. or Court Doc.# then Slags took the $$ and shud down ..plain and simple //

WE wait till then ..all this will come out in the Next few days ..

anyone can make up a MSN convo.. and say what they want ..we wait till papers are posted ..

and Slags Real name with RTX attatced with the 3 other sites under Vbull ...

:rolleyes:

Exactly right!

[hughnohoo]

we, I'm like jOn3s...I don't even have a tv...I just stopped there to ask directions to disneyworld....

[rg6a]

very sad indeed. Seems that whenever the unlooper thread gets going, something goes down!! I'm sure the events aren't connected, but just a cooincidence! Sum1 said it himeslf yesterday.

At any rate, this is a huge loss of information. Their was more info there then many other sites combined. If r10x refugees are looking for a new home...theb4dro5620124crn

Man, you've got nerve or are just plain fucking stupid to suggest some other site!!

This is the place to be, those Bastards have been trying to bust Mili for years and didn't even get the sweat off his balls (or even a whiff>!

This is the Safe Haven and hopefully others will now join in, as we can't let the bastards win without a fight!!!

[DB]

Pretty cut and Dry //

We dont see a APO.. or Court Doc.# then Slags took the $$ and shud down ..plain and simple //

WE wait till then ..all this will come out in the Next few days ..

anyone can make up a MSN convo.. and say what they want ..we wait till papers are posted ..

and Slags Real name with RTX attatced with the 3 other sites under Vbull ...

:rolleyes:I 100% agree with you. I think this is all one big scam by Snags. I really need to see some kind of evidence other then what Snags posts to beleive it.

[alsouthster]

Well I see a lot of knowledgable people saying they think it is all a Snags scam but that seems like conspiracy theories to me.
Do you really think he would lie that he got served an Anton Piller? And he would lie that they were after him for $20 million?
Surely he would realize those kind of claims, if false, would catch up to him when no evdience of either came through lol....
And if he was going to take the money and run, why even bother to come up with a story? (unless of course the person making the claims isn't really him LOL)
But IMHO it is more likely that the legal evidence will soon come out ...and then we'll see what the further repercussions will be....
Basically I agree with Mili, who I think was being serious, that it is a tragic story....i.e. a good thing gone bad and turned into a mess

[Bandit5906]

The evidence will either come out or not: we have to wait on it. Don't know which to hope for, but I suppose it will be best (for the community) if it is a scam.

All we can do is wait and speculate.

[dork1]

Well I see a lot of knowledgable people saying they think it is all a Snags scam but that seems like conspiracy theories to me.
Do you really think he would lie that he got served an Anton Piller? And he would lie that they were after him for $20 million?
Surely he would realize those kind of claims, if false, would catch up to him when no evdience of either came through lol....
And if he was going to take the money and run, why even bother to come up with a story? (unless of course the person making the claims isn't really him LOL)
But IMHO it is more likely that the legal evidence will soon come out ...and then we'll see what the further repercussions will be....
Basically I agree with Mili, who I think was being serious, that it is a tragic story....i.e. a good thing gone bad and turned into a mess

I agree. If your gonna cut and run, cut and run. No need for an elaborate story, that only muddys the issue.

[fubr]

I still hold firm to my initial thought...
I could give a shit, either way it is bad,,,if he got served very bad....if he cut and run very bad so anyway you look at it it is a bad thing for lots of people.

I put my ear to the ground and things I heard was he did indeed get served but as stated who has documents or press releases confirming.

I cant get past the fact he posted after the fact and a temp gag order...hmmmm

another testing mystery it seems

[Bandit5906]

Until we see proof otherwise I have to agree with you: too many unusual things posted to ignor.

[j0n3s]

we, I'm like jOn3s...I don't even have a tv...I just stopped there to ask directions to disneyworld....

As a matter of fact I think I saw you asking for directions when I was getting board schematics to fix my 3100 I bought online as 'not working'. Good thing I fixed my receiver for free (well a buck for a fuse).

I trust to got to Disneyland OK? I trust the weather was great?


Cheers.

[stereoman]

Pretty cut and Dry //

We dont see a APO.. or Court Doc.# then Slags took the $$ and shud down ..plain and simple //

WE wait till then ..all this will come out in the Next few days ..

anyone can make up a MSN convo.. and say what they want ..we wait till papers are posted ..

and Slags Real name with RTX attatced with the 3 other sites under Vbull ...

:rolleyes:
True....................

[Morphius]

If you want Evidence all you have to do is call the nearest Court Clerks office near Abbotsford, B.C and start asking questions.

You could also call SI directly or JJ Gee directly from a payphone and ask questions if you were intelligent enough to get him to talk to you ...... Like several others already have that have had their sites name and URLs posted over at SatScams and were clearly told if they were on the " list " or not .

Instead of accusing or guessing, take 15 minutes out of your day and find out some facts.

AP Orders are a matter of public record after the fact..... so there ya go.

Why doesn't everyone call tommorow and ask ..... just to have fun with the Court Clerk.

and if you Google JJ Gee, you can find him and his cronies phone numbers quite easily.

[spanga]

ya right....i'll get right on that...."Yes, I'm calling to research any court orders involving Snaggs".........lol.......i'm sure that the snoops are on it and we should know one way or the other by the end of friday

[mlee222]

Man, you've got nerve or are just plain fucking stupid to suggest some other site!!

This is the place to be, those Bastards have been trying to bust Mili for years and didn't even get the sweat off his balls (or even a whiff>!

This is the Safe Haven and hopefully others will now join in, as we can't let the bastards win without a fight!!! good 4 you!! ive been on many sites and YES mili's is the best & safest by far! come on guys lets see some pride, and loyalty to mili...

[breakinpar]

first names Andy last name is ahhh well who was he in the covo with on the famous msn log?

heh

I will hold comment until the APO info is pulled out of goodings rum bottle

[alsouthster]

bates, no?

[gooding]

first names Andy last name is ahhh well who was he in the covo with on the famous msn log?

heh

I will hold comment until the APO info is pulled out of goodings rum bottle

lmfao .. Par atleast my Dog barks when he wants the rum cap.. :p

EDITED my post I wait till The Slags Smoke and Mirror show is over .. :eek:

[MarvinGardens]

If you want Evidence all you have to do is call the nearest Court Clerks office near Abbotsford, B.C and start asking questions.

The following is quoted from a 10/11/07 post on this site: http://www.dssftp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=454112


Originally Posted by Soundguy
C&P from Scams !

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http://www.satscams.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif News
Eric, you're next bro. No, they didn't forget you and your silly new legal disclaimer won't help any either. Freetech Inc. lawsuit coming to a California court near you. Captiveworks on the hit list. Ariza and Fortec will be served by Bell. DF, they are pushing for criminal charges against you. R Jr. is going to jail, R Sr. will lose the house. Pretending it was someone else is real dumb, bro. Just ask L, who is now ratting out all the players and cooperating fully. Stay away from Hash folks - you won't believe who it belongs too, not even TDG knows. Speaking of seizures, seems they won't settle for nothing less than G's house on F. Sorry S, JJGee is a real asshole and so are the lawyers.
JJGee knows about the email intercepts by TDG (aka R W), L, K, and the Russian. You guys are now facing wiretap charges too. As for W, there is only one thing JJGee hates more than a satellite pirate and that's a heroin dealer poisoning Florida's kids. Geez, the stuff they uncover when tracking down someone.
And now for the bad news. Up and coming raids or legal action:

14 Rue Des Plaines
Trois Rivieres, QC

Brookland St
Sydney, Nova Scotia

2485 Hill-Tout St
British Columbia

437 Danforth Ave.
Ontario

424 Heath St. E
Ontario

45 Esandar Drive
Toronto, Ontario

2570 Bourquin Cres E
British Columbia

60 Industrial Parkway
Cheetowaga, NY

942 East Summit St.
North Vernon, IN


fta-newbies and dss-newbies under investigation in Lubbock, Texas. 2 yr. old CC investigation reopened. totalfta is also under investigation. If you are on this list, destroy any evidence IMMEDIATELY.
It seems they are moving on legal action against M. M is now using a "piracy disclaimer" which leads me to believe he knows about the
investigation. Bro, you are in deep shit and no disclaimer is going to save you. STOP posting on the forums and destroy your hard drives. Everything you post is documented. They have information about you from yahoo, coperating with paypal and gmail. They have also approached an ISP provider in Cincinnati for your records. And your phone (812) ***-**18 North Vernon may be under surveillance. You have been emailing files to a Nagrastar informant using tommykman for some time. They will charge you criminally under the DMCA. Bro, I have seen all the affidavits.
HUSC3/4 is now active. Prepare for extended downtimes once the injunctions are in place against Viewtech and Panarex. They will take this thing all the way to Korea to bring charges against the designer/manufacturer.

The two British Columbia addresses listed above are located in Abbotsford, BC. One of them could be the address of the raid...

[Twostep]

Do you really think he would lie that he got served an Anton Piller? And he would lie that they were after him for $20 million?


You wouldn't think so. You also wouldn't think anyone who had been served an APO and a 20M lawsuit would be goofy enough to post about it all over the internet, even going as far as to solicit donations on his own pirate site after being served.

There's a shifty motherfucker somewhere in this woodpile...:eek:

[Bandit5906]

When he was on Scams last night someone posted to him to give us more info and he logged right off. It was mentioned that "he" might be the law?

[Benleo1]

Mili proved that he has some integrity no matter what some people say about him. I am 90% sure that Snags has pulled off one of the biggest scams the testing community has ever seen. You would be shocked if you knew the kind of money Snags was pulling out of 10X. Not thousands, think millions.

[greenie-monster]

All my personal info on Yahoo and Hotmail is bogus which is why I use those accounts when registering on any forum / board whether it be sat testing, bit torrent sites, lockpicking etc etc

Hey kromedge, what are some good lock pickin sites?

[rg6a]

Just a thought and no one has commented about this.


A A.P.O. is requested when there is danger or a high likelyhood of the Evidence being destroyed and Time is of the Essence!

He was running his site(s) and collecting donations and banner monies, so was content with the status quo and not going anywhere. They could get a search warrant for signal theft and whatever found inside is a bonus.

They didn't need an A.P.O., sounds fishy but if true....a good Lawyer could argue that said Warrant was fraudulently obtained ,hence return everything and see ya' later guys.

Another member pulled up an old post about predictions of coming busts and many of them were accurate. Also two B.C. addresses that are in or near Abbotsford.

I remember RTX users bitching about mailing their M.O.s and still didn't receive their membership . Snags complained that it's a 40 minute drive each way and he only goes to the P.O. once a week.

Call up mapquest.ca, and will give you the mileage and drive times (unless Snags was lieing again) of those two addresses.

He could of received Cease & Desist letters and his Lawyer could of advised him, it would be prudent to pull the cord.??

PS wonder if his servers will end up on eBay? LOL

PPS Just reading a review of SuperMicro's new SuperBlade , it's a 7U Rack and an entry-level 10-server system can be built for $10K!!

Yes 10 blades for $10K, so where did that $30K go for one server???? ;-)

[lefty]

Hey kromedge, what are some good lock pickin sites?

Just google youtube for that term. plenty stuff out there.

it's a hobby of mine.

[HCCAfan]

you will see alot of bump-lock stuff on youtube also, very efficient on most locks out there.... matter of fact, nbc i think did a big report on tv about people bypassing the tumblers in locks by use of bump-locks.

[eFish]

ROM10X was great, I was a member without paying a penny. Every site has its faults becuase itnrun by peeps...all trying to have a fun time breakin' things.

[pecker88]

ROM10X was great, I was a member without paying a penny. Every site has its faults becuase itnrun by peeps...all trying to have a fun time breakin' things.
same here, was a member from day1 and never gave a dime. Guess that it pays to actively help other members.

no matter what is said about 10x, it was the center for all info. Any question you had was already answered, an absolute plethora of information, more then many many sites combined.

[Dazzler]

Sorry to get off topic, I'm a locksmith and lock bumping doesn't work, I could key a lock to be picked easily and bumped easily, doesn't mean it work in real practice. It also only works with high end locks where the tolerances are tight and the energy transfer from bumping is directly passed to the pin tumblers. It won't drive them high enough to meet the sheer line if they are short pins. I'm a professional and have attempted it many times, just doesn't work in real world practice. Just my 2 cents.

[shadow_8282]

I for one have been around these sites for a long time, from rom 10x to kc to about any other sites, i belive this is a hobby and the people that visit should use this info as personal knowledge.

If snags is a good guy or not, if he took the cash and ran or not is besides the point, the only point is when shit hits the fan everyone crawals out of their whole and bashes everyone, cant imagine what people would say about mili if site ever goes down, just like snags and everyone else

goodluck luck snags with whatever your doing, and thanks for rom10x while it lasted

[JT]

http://www.dssftp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77455

Looks like the rom10x bust was, well, a bust. ;-)

[fubr]

although we had doubts we still acted like gentlemen to see them off,,,,,,,well boys the wake is over LOL