USB 3rd Party Software Acknowledged

[keithsindiapale]

Posted at CC:
Posted by Fab5 last night:
It seems someone or some group claims to have developed 3rd party software that works on the USBAtmega256 card and wish to take over support for the card.

Whoever you are, you picked a damn fine time to take over support. Sigh.

As to how I would feel about all this? Well, I would be delighted!

Please upload your software here.

If nothing materializes, well then, I guess I will have to upload something myself.

Fab5
Posted by Neikas this morning:

The Hitec Team has developed a third party software solution for the USB Atmega. We are requesting feedback from the dedicated users here at CC. The software contains the same user interface as Fabs. We are currently working out the bugs. Thanks for the support PKD.

[Silence77]

About dam time, now mabe this little card will go on to impress the masses! I mean look at the 128 tha thing just will not die lol, I've got more than my moneys worth out of that device, but time will tell if these people are serious hopefully they're linked to the humex team

[rob24_365]

I am not at all interested in a "Third Party" solution, which (since it has the same interface) is probably just copied-reversed-engineering-based-on-Fab5's work.

I would rather have the card die than use something like that.

Keep on pluggin', Fab5, I'm willing to wait!

rob24_365

[Cwazy Guy]

You ain't heard tha worst of it, this new "third party" support group will be asking for everybody to PAY for their support of tha USB ATmega cardz! I for one will NEVER PAY for their support when there are too many other FREE testing devicez I can uze! Tha regular ATmega'z are already back up now, thanks to Team Phoenix or "The Unknownz" or whoever they are, and they have ALWAYz worked better than tha USB'z! Tha Max & Melz (ST19XL EMU platform) haz BEEN back up and still iz and it's also a very good platform to uze! Hell, I'll even buy an FTA receiver before I'll pay anybody to support a card that I expected to get FREE support for when I bought it! I'll even BURN it before I'll pay to get any further support for it! LOL!

[fubr]

hmmm, New software and coder with Fab5 blessing.......

fuck that, I would not pay shit, I will burn mines as well before I pay for the new guys shit.

Surely Fab5 is not saying he wants people to use it so he can stop.

[smilingjack]

Maybe he want a bigger cut

[JT]

This is disturbing news. I saw Fab's original post over at CC. Yesterday was the first I'd heard of third party software. You guys know what this move is going to provoke if Fab5 totally ducks out don't you? That's right, more MC/AVR-X etc. BS. This is going to get ugly if Fab5 walks away and the device goes to strictly pay support. It's going to be really hard to continue defending Fab5's excellent reputation if he cuts out now. One of the things that bothers me the most is that Fab5's post hinted that he had at least a temp fix for the current map(s), but because of this third party software issue, it seemed as though he decided not to release it.

Please Fab5, do us all a favor and continue the outstanding support you have provided thus far.

[JT]

I have yet to see a website or further information on this Hitec group. Anyone have a link to check it out further?

[robm661]

hes looking for a out ,no money in the usb when phoenix comes out first with a fix for 25 $ cards ,he should at least let people get a yr out the card or to card swap is done just my thought i own a few of just about all testing devices, so just my 2cents so keep your negative comments to yourself they the usb suck in 301.010 and work great in 501 /3900,and whos the third party person ?

[mlee222]

yep, it seems a little fishy that we hear nothing on this 3rd party s/w until Fab5 makes his post about it?? and he is o.k. with this....... there is more to this story i'm sure. just my opinion.

[Stockwell_Day]

say bye bye to your support. pay or not, its gonna go away. guess we all got screwed on this one. Maybe someone will actually become a third party support that is freeware. lord knows fab5's support has been sketchy at best.

my money is this new groups support will include fab5 and continue to be sketchy up until they fall off the face of the planet. than low and behold a new device will appear about a month later with a new paint job and we will all line up to buy it. they will be praised for their great support and wonderful "new" device. . .

SWD

[mannybeef]

could be attributed to lack of hope regarding nagra3.

because if sales are gloomy at best, why keep up the support for free
unless you are like the arm team and really determined to prove your vision.

its a crazy notion how it was brought to everyones attention.
its not the character of a fellowship coder ill tell you that much
maybe we are all jumping to conclusions.....

i never tested the device but its a shame to those that do.
wish the best to fabulous5!

[lobogobo]

mmmmm. No word from Fab 5, then a "3rd" party wants to supply support for the USB atmega at a cost. I realy wonder.

[blazin6969]

Just buy an arm, just seems like someone is trying to cash in for new fixes can ya blame him though? Welp hope everything works out for the best

[wtp]

no disrespect to fab5 cause he does do great work for free but if he might have put out temp fixes while he prefects a good fix people wouldn't have got so mad. a temp fix is better then waiting days or even weeks for a fix. no disrespect to anybody, just my thoughts.

[capt_peo]

Sounds way too fishy. I paid $89 for this damn card. Most probably this is fab asking for money in disguise. Don't get me wrong, I admit he should get paid but this card was supposed to include free support.

[robm661]

You ain't heard tha worst of it, this new "third party" support group will be asking for everybody to PAY for their support of tha USB ATmega cardz! I for one will NEVER PAY for their support when there are too many other FREE testing devicez I can uze! Tha regular ATmega'z are already back up now, thanks to Team Phoenix or "The Unknownz" or whoever they are, and they have ALWAYz worked better than tha USB'z! Tha Max & Melz (ST19XL EMU platform) haz BEEN back up and still iz and it's also a very good platform to uze! Hell, I'll even buy an FTA receiver before I'll pay anybody to support a card that I expected to get FREE support for when I bought it! I'll even BURN it before I'll pay to get any further support for it! LOL!u wont pay say30 $ for six months sensesales are down to fab5 which is the one whos really behind all this i would if it went through milli onllyand i'm sure others would also

[geejay1945]

There is definitely something "scammy" going on with this third party.

[rg6a]

I don't use said device but reading shit like 'I'll burn it first before I'll pay' YOU FUCKERS ARE WORSE THAN FTA PEOPLE!!!

You Bastards want Free TV and know what?.................There is no Free Lunch and if I was a Coder..........would tell you to go Fuck Yourselves!!

....but I'm not, so I can't say that.

[pecker88]

oh boy...
So the case of the mysterious coder disappearence happens again, and again, and what...again.

Hate to say it, but this was comming LONG ago.

[mili]

I ain't touching this shit you can be sure of that. THey don't know the can of worms they are about to open up provided they can write a working software to begin with.

mili

[JT]

....and how much time is this new team going to spend on preventing leaking of their software vs. working the bugs out? Like mili says, I can't believe that anyone would accept the burden these guys are saying they want to. If they have any chance at all of succeding they will have to release their first couple versions of software for free to prove it works or nobody will touch it.

[mili]

I was between a rock and a hard place once, I ain't looking forward another outrage like that. They can clone the shit out of anything they want I wont lift a finger. They can keep all the millions they gonna make on that :)

mili

[mlee222]

this whole usb atmega thing gets more f**ked up & messy by the minute!!!

[BLACK BART]

I don't use said device

Then what fuckin' business is it of YOURs in the FIRST place!!!???

reading shit like 'I'll burn it first before I'll pay' YOU FUCKERS ARE WORSE THAN FTA PEOPLE!!!

No, what's WORSE than fuckin' FTA people is people who stick their noses where they DON'T BELONG!

You Bastards want Free TV and know what?.................There is no Free Lunch and if I was a Coder..........would tell you to go Fuck Yourselves!!
....but I'm not, so I can't say that.

Bastards??? LOL! No free lunch??? What about ST19XL EMU!!!??? and what about the regular ATmega's!!!??? Both the 128 and 256 ATmega's are ALSO FREE!!! and what about REAL ROMs!!!??? There's FREE support for them too! I'm not including what it may cost to get them or the receivers for them to work in or the unlocker or ISO programmer or any of the actual "hardware" required, just the SUPPORT for them! There's FREE support for ALL these OTHER testing devices, so NO ONE really has to worry about the support for the USB ATmega's disappearing! Sure, there are "premium" blockers available for anyone who doesn't want to rely on any of the freeware blockers, and it's anyone's choice to make if they want to use those, but no one's forcing anybody to pay for them if they don't really want to!

and BESIDEs, CwazyGuy wasn't the ONLY one who said he'd burn his USB ATmega card before he'd ever pay this new "third party" group to continue supporting it! One of the Mods here (fubr) ALSO said the SAME thing! and right after CwazyGuy made his post!

hmmm, New software and coder with Fab5 blessing.......
fuck that, I would not pay shit, I will burn mines as well before I pay for the new guys shit.
Surely Fab5 is not saying he wants people to use it so he can stop.

So maybe you better take to reading ALL the posts in the threads you post in a little more thoroughly from now on BEFORE posting in them! When you said what you said to a member who just made his first post here (CwazyGuy) you do realize you were also saying the SAME thing to fubr don't you??? He feels the SAME way as CwazyGuy! and so do I !!!
u wont pay say30 $ for six months sense sales are down to fab5 which is the one whos really behind all this i would if it went through milli onllyand i'm sure others would also

I think you should maybe also re-read most of the posts that have already been made in this thread, Rob, and just speak for yourself. I don't blame CwazyGuy or anyone else one little bit for feeling the way they do! I in fact feel the very SAME way about the whole thing! No, I also won't pay one plug nickel to these guys or even to Fab5 for something I expected to get FREE when I bought the damn card!

I'll just add this one additional statement to the thread ... I think if the great Fab5 doesn't come out with a new release himself and SOON, I'm gonna burn mine too! LOL!

[ruciz]

guess whoever wants to charge a 'small fee' must also be the guys behind the atmega@home software.. that went off without a hitch eh?

People can crack complex math crypto routines, break multi-BILLION dollar computer software companies security routines - but think that their 200kb executable is safe from being cracked itself? hahaha! Bring it on!

Make you software pay to use, and see how brutal retaliation is. There is a reason no subscription service for a device has EVER lasted...

[JT]

Well, we have our first officially pissed off about this post. Black Bart got pretty close to being as mouthy as we care for. Please try to keep your rants fairly clean and real. (Black Bart is fine so long as fubr doesn't misinterpret his comments like I did at first ;) Fubr most certainly did read all the posts in this thread before posting, so I don't understand that part)

We're all going to be upset about this if fab5 voluntarily backs out. The only thing that's going to save the USB atmega256 now is a software release from fab5, and soon, or, he admits defeat and releases the bootloader so anyone who wants to work on it can; free of charge. Otherwise, the USB atmega256 is dead for good. Depending on how this goes it might be time to strip them down and use them as wafers for a bga chip or external emu. Don't burn them or strip them down yet, but this doesn't look good to me.

[mlee222]

no you're right jt, it seems as if Fab5 has a fix but will not release it, give 3rd party a little "more time", he said in a post at C-C. why hold out on the peeps who are loyal to him just because someone or group are messing with him. thats only hurting his following not to mention his reputation in the testing community...... my OPINION only.

[fubr]

I am not upset.....:)
I just plain and simple will not ever pay for anything else for this card.
no site access.
no software keys
no donations

I paid for all that shit when I got the card.

Let me be clear.......the card has paid for itself more than once already.
If I never use it again it was worth 10 times what I paid for it considering all the movies, events and crab fishing I watched using it (that is if this post was real and I actually used this stuff for free tv)
Like it says in my disclaimer,,,,everything I say is bullshit and I can not be held responsible.

I said all I wanted to at card-coders, and I wont say much more either, here or elsewhere,
If Fab releases some code or is in cahoots with these new guys FINE as long as it is free I will continue to support it, If not I will simply not use it anymore.
\
I'll be damn if I fight or argue on the internet about it :)

[smilingjack]

Let them burn up their card, and pay for it, hehehehe
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But BLACK BART has to a new avatar

[Twostep]

I have yet to see a website or further information on this Hitec group. Anyone have a link to check it out further?

Yes. xxx.card-coders.com. Any and all posts from Fab 5.

Ronnie Milsap could see through this goatfuck. Geezus. I guess the Magic Card debacle didn't teach anyone a damn thing. :mad:

[mili]

By the way I don't see any foxes for Coolsat nor Armulators and yet nobody is bitching???

mili

[mlee222]

my coolsat is holding the door open just fine so the sun can come in! thats just why i got one in the 1st place! LOL

[gizmolite]

Ahhh mine is one of the finest boat anchors I've ever had...the cement though was not included.....

[jayrock]

i bought 3 of these cards running around 300 dollars have not yet been able to even use them because of the slow mailing system. little pissed off waste of 3 bills when im back to using my 128's i feel milli should stop advertising the sale of these cards until we know whats going on here i understand he makes money here also, but should stand up for his people and stop the sales of these cards from his site till there is a known support for them instead of taking peoples money for these cards knowing the mess that is going on right know. with milli still selling these cards, i feel he dont care if there is support or not as long as hes making money... and maybe if milli stops the sale of these cards it might open some eyes to this known problem.

[jayrock]

as for fab 5 i believe he probally isnt releasing anything because he don't want to offer any assistance to the this third party. so until this mess is resolved hye will probally just sit back and observe we should all be supportive of him and be patient i guess or just give up on these cards either way. live and learn i guess.

[Fr33TVr]

i bought 3 of these cards running around 300 dollars have not yet been able to even use them because of the slow mailing system. little pissed off waste of 3 bills when im back to using my 128's i feel milli should stop advertising the sale of these cards until we know whats going on here i understand he makes money here also, but should stand up for his people and stop the sales of these cards from his site till there is a known support for them instead of taking peoples money for these cards knowing the mess that is going on right know. with milli still selling these cards, i feel he dont care if there is support or not as long as hes making money... and maybe if milli stops the sale of these cards it might open some eyes to this known problem.with all due respect he didnt have a gun to your head and made you purchase the cards. Its was your personal choice to buy 3. next time buy 1 test it out and once evaluated you can decide to buy more if you like it but thats just my opinion. I can understand and respect your frustratration but you should not be pointing the finger at the man who is allowing us to come here and use his site for FREE. He never promised you support just promised you the card for for $xx.xx and thats what you got.

[jayrock]

as for using this site for free you are wrong i am a paid member of this site . and as i am just saying maybe he should be supportive of his members and hold off on selling these cards untill there is a known fix for these cards im not holding him responcable for keeing these cards up just suggesting maybe he should look out for his people a little better and stop all sales of these cards until this mess is resolved. maybe i would think differently if i actually got to use these cards but i have not and that is frustrating when you spend 300 and then there is no fix. on hte other hand it was up and running when i bought these cards and this mess was not an issue at the time. but know this is a mess and maybe we should say hay i value my paid members and i wont promote these cards to them with all thats going on. why? because i value my members more than i do making money on some card that is up in limbo.

[Fr33TVr]

as for using this site for free you are wrong i am a paid member of this site . and as i am just saying maybe he should be supportive of his members and hold off on selling these cards untill there is a known fix for these cards im not holding him responcable for keeing these cards up just suggesting maybe he should look out for his people a little better and stop all sales of these cards until this mess is resolved. maybe i would think differently if i actually got to use these cards but i have not and that is frustrating when you spend 300 and then there is no fix. on hte other hand it was up and running when i bought these cards and this mess was not an issue at the time. but know this is a mess and maybe we should say hay i value my paid members and i wont promote these cards to them with all thats going on. why? because i value my members more than i do making money on some card that is up in limbo.I totally understand what you're saying and where you're coming from especially in your certain situation. If someone wants to purchase the atmega256 card tonight KNOWINGLY that the cards are currently down then thats there prerogative. Milli WILL sell them the card to whoever wants to purchase them. Its shitty that you ordered them when they were still up but what im trying to say is that it doesnt make sense for Milli to yank the card out of inventory just because fab5 hasnt released a fix for the latest ecm. Its a risk we all take when purchasing ANY platform to "test". Hopefully fab5 comes through and everyone can STFU.

[mlee222]

as for using this site for free you are wrong i am a paid member of this site . and as i am just saying maybe he should be supportive of his members and hold off on selling these cards untill there is a known fix for these cards im not holding him responcable for keeing these cards up just suggesting maybe he should look out for his people a little better and stop all sales of these cards until this mess is resolved. maybe i would think differently if i actually got to use these cards but i have not and that is frustrating when you spend 300 and then there is no fix. on hte other hand it was up and running when i bought these cards and this mess was not an issue at the time. but know this is a mess and maybe we should say hay i value my paid members and i wont promote these cards to them with all thats going on. why? because i value my members more than i do making money on some card that is up in limbo. i agree in theory but, mili is a business man and must get rid of his current stock, also, nobody is going to buy them anyway untill this sh!t is setteled. right?? by the way you (i think) are only a paid member "vip" of the files download section whitch is sepetrate even though owened by the same man. but mili really does look after his members vip's or not does not matter. that's why nobody realy has anything bad to post about him! Happy testing!!

[jayrock]

i got faith in fab 5 not sure whats going on with all this other shit and the charge for a fix that they dont even have perfected yet , but be assured if there is a fix for this from a third party i will buy it and then i will post it on every site known to man. then some one else can buy it and do the same . not bashing any one just gonna make it aware to everyone they should not buy the usb 256 card for some time to come . untill there is proven reliable support for this card or they need an expensive icescrapper. happy testing......

[reene4525]

i agree in theory but, mili is a business man and must get rid of his current stock, also, nobody is going to buy them anyway untill this sh!t is setteled. right?? by the way you (i think) are only a paid member "vip" of the files download section whitch is sepetrate even though owened by the same man. but mili really does look after his members vip's or not does not matter. that's why nobody realy has anything bad to post about him! Happy testing!! ( Nothing bad to post about him)?? Negative posts about "him" get deleted in a hurry.

[McLovin]

out of the blue comes this group who has figured out what chips are on the usb board (fab5 erased the chip numbers so no one could clone his board) that wants to sell fixes.

he said he would open source his code now it looks like he is backing out and will let this "new" group provide fixes for a fee without any competition from him. this is a SCAM!

[JT]

Fab5 has said he will release software shortly. Hopefully.....

[Neikas]

Doubt that JT. Fab has given notice that we will continue with support. Like he stated support now will require more of an indepth time process. Which we can, and will provide. Stay tuned all.

[JT]

Let's keep the rhetoric to a minimum please Neikas, at least until we know who's doing what, or at least until you guys release a FREE version of your software for all of us to test.

[rg6a]

out of the blue comes this group who has figured out what chips are on the usb board (fab5 erased the chip numbers so no one could clone his board) that wants to sell fixes.


Hell, I did the same thing.......common practise but it's only TTL.....so those that know.......no problem.

he said he would open source his code now it looks like he is backing out and will let this "new" group provide fixes for a fee without any competition from him. this is a SCAM!

You really should get an FTA, and smarten up my man..........there is no such thing as a Free Lunch............an if someone offered it.........I wouldn't eat it!

Pissers and Moaners, get a Life!


Also those that criticise Mili for selling products that he doesn't support, that's it.........buy it and you're on your own.

Have a problem, then get the 'Eff off here..........you're a waste of bandwidth.


PS I have never purchased anything from Mili, nor do I have a business interest or connection with him.

[jayrock]

Doubt that JT. Fab has given notice that we will continue with support. Like he stated support now will require more of an indepth time process. Which we can, and will provide. Stay tuned all. keep your indepth time process and as a matter of fact if you may allow me i will tell you how deep you can shove it and also if you will allow me i will do the providing of the in depth process please please allow me the privliage im putting these cards on ebay if i dont see a fix from fab 5 himself before i will ever deal with you assholes.

[McLovin]

You really should get an FTA, and smarten up my man..........there is no such thing as a Free Lunch............an if someone offered it.........I wouldn't eat it! Pissers and Moaners, get a Life!

oh rg6a, great philosopher of life, i don't have a usb atmega so keep your childish bs to yourself.

fab5 created this mess by his greed (closed source software), now he wants to let only some "other" group sell fixes and still keep it closed source. that was my point.

[robm661]

well if fab5 gives up , there is reason y he not telling us that money,family , law enforcement, there is more to the story {my opinion } law , in the past he was always first to fix until around mid january ,this hitec who claims to have a fix as soon as people pay and gd amount say half who bought those usb will a nice big juicy fine.i gd be wrong just a thought

[rob24_365]

All of this recriminating bullshit is just bullshit. I guarantee you if they were face to face with the people they are insulting so vehemently, they'd be pissing their pants and running away.

The anonymity of the Internet gives puny, pitiful fucks like these virtual balls with which to confront others, as they know there will never be a reckoning for their personal insults.

Just my two cents!

rob24_365

P.S. I guess I might be considered to be falling into that same category. *rolleyes*

[ClarkeBelt]

Saddest situation in a long time. As a buyer from Mili, I have no complaints about Mili. He sold the card and the support has now gone south. Part of the game. But for Fab5, I have no hesitation in stating he has broken his promise of releasing the code publicly. That can change at any time, but all of you that cannot see what USB buyers are being asked to do are blind. We are being asked to bend over and take it "in depth".

[laserray]

HITEC??? This is way too funny.

Early on in the DN history, there was DR7, and Hitec was a major a-hole in the biz. He should be in jail if not broke.
Why did they use that name?

[ClarkeBelt]

HITEC??? This is way too funny.

Early on in the DN history, there was DR7, and Hitec was a major a-hole in the biz. He should be in jail if not broke.
Why did they use that name?
Oh, I remember ...

hxxp://hitecsat.com

[mlee222]

Saddest situation in a long time. As a buyer from Mili, I have no complaints about Mili. He sold the card and the support has now gone south. Part of the game. But for Fab5, I have no hesitation in stating he has broken his promise of releasing the code publicly. That can change at any time, but all of you that cannot see what USB buyers are being asked to do are blind. We are being asked to bend over and take it "in depth". my brother, thank u for putting my thoughts into words!

[dishdude666]

I don't use said device but reading shit like 'I'll burn it first before I'll pay' YOU FUCKERS ARE WORSE THAN FTA PEOPLE!!!

You Bastards want Free TV and know what?.................There is no Free Lunch and if I was a Coder..........would tell you to go Fuck Yourselves!!

....but I'm not, so I can't say that.

How do you make yourself sound like a dumb dip shit?
You start a post by saying "I don't use said device but"
But what Einstein?
Every support out there is and been free for except private blockers.

You dont see any other support team like ..PGM, humexico and pheonix guys asking to get paid, why should this be different?

[robm661]

well if fab5 gives up , there is reason y he not telling us that money,family , law enforcement, there is more to the story {my opinion } law , in the past he was always first to fix until around mid january ,this hitec who claims to have a fix as soon as people pay and gd amount say half who bought those usb will a nice big juicy fine.i gd be wrong just a thoughtmy bad he did ghive a update yesterdayover cc Fab5 (http://www.card-coders.com/forum/member.php?u=65) http://www.card-coders.com/forum/images/lustrous/statusicon/user_online.gif vbmenu_register("postmenu_39337", true);
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I am just waiting to see if 3rd party software does indeed materialize.

Sorry about the down time guys. Just be patient for another day or two.

[JT]

See, to me that post makes no sense, and I garantee you it will only rile folks up even more. Holding back software that could be keeping the USB atmega256 in the game makes no sense at all. No reason the buyers of this product should be penalized for the actions of a potential third party software developer.

[bogercitymadman]

right jt all sounds so fishy i want touch it,i have other testing methods now but learned along time ago from avrx magic dont put all my eggs in one basket...have a usb too but will not pay for support because it smells really fishy

[ClarkeBelt]

See, to me that post makes no sense, and I garantee you it will only rile folks up even more. Holding back software that could be keeping the USB atmega256 in the game makes no sense at all. No reason the buyers of this product should be penalized for the actions of a potential third party software developer.
Exactly right, JT. I read stuff like that for the past 3 days and all I can think is, "Well, there goes another USB day down the shitter!"

[cmd82]

By the way I don't see any foxes for Coolsat nor Armulators and yet nobody is bitching???

mili

crappy armUlator hasnt worked in a week lol it does sux but guess what i been around along time no use whinning about something you cant have, as for me i always have other means never leave all your eggs in 1 egg carton never know who is carrying that fucker :D

[dishdude666]

THere is an important question you have to ask. Could Nagra3 be the end of the road for the ATMEGA's? If yes, than these guys are trying to load themself's up before the game comes to an end, witch is soon.

I say guys, but no one can prove the Hitech group and Fab are same people or not.

[dishdude666]

By the way I don't see any foxes for Coolsat nor Armulators and yet nobody is bitching???

mili

Thats right. We don't to be like them. We want to be different.:D

[mlee222]

THere is an important question you have to ask. Could Nagra3 be the end of the road for the ATMEGA's? If yes, than these guys are trying to load themself's up before the game comes to an end, witch is soon.

I say guys, but no one can prove the Hitech group and Fab are same people or not. would be nice if an madministrator could find out the truth on that! can you mili or not???:confused:

[althor123]

If you go to any fta site, especially coolsat, they are bitching without a doubt.

[18dd2]

say bye bye to your support. pay or not, its gonna go away. guess we all got screwed on this one. Maybe someone will actually become a third party support that is freeware. lord knows fab5's support has been sketchy at best.

my money is this new groups support will include fab5 and continue to be sketchy up until they fall off the face of the planet. than low and behold a new device will appear about a month later with a new paint job and we will all line up to buy it. they will be praised for their great support and wonderful "new" device. . .

SWD


And maybe 'IF' there is a 3rd party take over they will figure out a fix for the dreded Atmega256 not detected error. 3 weeks of use for a $100 pice of hardware is a joke. Best thing that has worked as far as I am concerned is Atmega128, EMU and the FTA box :( They have had the best support and cost the least.

[BLACK BART]

Fab5 has said he will release software shortly. Hopefully.....

Doubt that JT. Fab has given notice that we will continue with support. Like he stated support now will require more of an indepth time process. Which we can, and will provide. Stay tuned all.

So let's hear what you have to say about it now, Neikas!

[mtmt1us]

By the way I don't see any foxes for Coolsat nor Armulators and yet nobody is bitching???

mili

Foxes for Coolsats and raccoons for Viewsats ??

What kind of varmint do I need with a 102 ? In a house with a mouse ?