error 19 problem

[hughnohoo]

last night one of my irds went error 19, scnic, and I have been unable to find the trouble so far:

1. I checked the continuity on all 3 wires, and each checks out fine from the pc all the way to the mel max board in the ird.

2. I swapped out both the atmel and the max chip with 2 new ones known to be good, and checked the voltages at the chip pins while running....all normal.

3. I have tried both ST19 and cemu, both give me the error 19....ird info shows, but no cam numbers.

4. I checked the serial ports on the pc by reflashing an atmel, and ports are working, and atmel shows the flash as ok.

5. I have a second ird which has been unplugged for 2 weeks, same story with that ird...error 19.

6. Checked the signal strength while waiting for the error 19 to pop onscreen, and good strong signal, so lnbs ok.

7.Have tried several known working cor/bins and all same error 19.

Soooo, wiring ok, atmel and max ok, pc ok, lnbs ok, ird(s) apparently ok and neither a prior working cemu or ST19 will work.

Been so long since I have had this type problem, must be overlooking something. Your help appreciated...and please dont say check your wiring.

[mannybeef]

i have had that problem, well we all have .lol

one time it happened an hour after it was just working,
so i knew something small was wrong

so i unplugged ird,, restarted computer,, plugged in ird and it was fine.

GL

[hughnohoo]

thanks manny, but I got desperate last night and tried that too, and on restarting the pc this am, still does the error 19...
btw, one ird tried with private #s, the second ird is public #s.

[mannybeef]

ok,, one question,
your using an internal maxmel ?

im not familiar with those just external

but the not showing cam numbers issue has got to be the problem
that doesnt answer anything i know ,sorry

maybe focusing on that will remedy the situation though.

GL

[hughnohoo]

yep internal m/m
missing cam numbers mean the pc and ird arent speaking to one another, which is the problem LOL
I'm of the opinion that its the pc in some way...2 different irds, 2 different mel max boards.

[mannybeef]

iis that a question lol

the maxmel if flashed correctly should display
cam numbers with no pc connected at all.

thats for sure. lol

[hughnohoo]

I question that...never seen that before, but that doesnt mean its not so I guess...
but if so, then both of my atmels are bad...cant be my flasher as it would have had an error message when I ran it, and it showed both atmel chips as taking the flash and verified the flash.

[mannybeef]

i wont change what i said above,, maybe i should of said this

if the m/m is flashed correctly it will display without any
connection to pc,, the dnasp and rev. thats the fact lol

just had a smoke break and was thinking that it wont even show cam numbers
till the aquiring sats screen pops up anyway LOL

[hughnohoo]

thats what I thought...the dynasp rev #s show, but not the cam

I need a smoke break too...puff puff pass, right ?

One more thing...St19 does not scroll, but cemu does, until the error 19 hits anyway.

[Little Kenobe]

reporting my findings on this matter

301.10 at p393 went 019 flashed with cemu 10b ar flash
second setup at p393 also went 019 flashed with n2 102 10c 2chip ironhead

my main setup is at p392 and never goes down
all setups are running st19 with same cor

p392/st19 flashed with n2 102 10c 2313 2chip ironhead < main setup never goes down.

might be the newer ird firmware??

[hughnohoo]

3900 ird at P353 current according to dish, and 2800 at P362 also current. Had been using the same 10C ar flash from Codebreaker 9 for many months w/o a hickup.
On the odd chance that my serial ports may be bad, I checked voltages at pins 2 and 3 (rx/tx) and the onboard port shows a steady 11.3V with or without an emu program running, and my 2nd port is a pci serial card, and it shows 12.3V at pins 2 and 3...don't know if the steady voltages are normal or not.
just for laughs will give ironhead flash a try, cant hurt. thx

I also reflashed the tsop and wrote a virgin eeprom flasdh, nothing helped.

[hughnohoo]

nada with n2_102_10C_2313_2chip_ironhead,exe. program.hex

[blusky]

Hello hughnohoo.
You seem to have covered all the bases on the SCNIC. You have checked the flash, the max/mel and cables.
Have you tried another computer? You have tried two Ird's with same results.
No cam number is definitely a communication issue between computer and Ird.

My suggestion would be to start all over and check each component one by one with known working parts. What are the odds that both ird's going bad? One that was working and the other out of the stream for two weeks. In my opinion it has to be one of the components of the Max/mel or computer.

Sometimes these errors can drive you crazy.

I had an external max/mel a while back and got the same error. It ended up being the DB9/rj45 connector. That one took me a while to figure out. Let me know how you do. Good luck.

[sumpin4me]

the DNASP number and revision show in the Sys. Info screen when the cardslot is correctly wired to the working flashed atmel with flash. so the problem is not with the that portion. the problem is most definitely between the PC and the DB9 connection side of the emu interface. have you changed COM ports on the PC and changed either cemu or ST19XL to use the different port appropriately? if not, try that first. if that does not work, then you most likely have a faulty connection somewhere on the DB9 side of your max/mel. i realize you said you have checked all connections and replaced both chips already, but there is no other explanation. you need to check all three (or sometimes four using reset mod) connections from the DB9 going to your internal max/mel, and check for cold solder joints. if you even have one cold solder, or one of those DB9 wires has a "kink" in it, then you will not communicate properly with the PC and as such, will not show the CA ID S00 numbers in the Sys. Info screen...

good luck. :)

[midgetcoach]

I have built my own MAX boards in the past. Have had one or two stop working for no reason. Everthing looked good just stopped like yours. Turned out to be a solder joint failed after working for months. Resoldered the bad joint and still working today.

[hughnohoo]

well, I think now its the pc (hope I'm wrong). Swapped com port to com2 which is a pci serial card, and it scroll somewhat, but only half of each line shows on monitor. Ran another cat 5 across the floor and hooked it up, still nothing but error 19.

Picked up a couple of 301-10s from a neighbor (what no rom102s ??) with rom sw02 and sw04, and out of frustration, stuck one of those in the 3900 ird after disconnecting the pc and vcc to mel max, and it gives error 20 wrong card, but kept farting with the remote and on/off, and it did boot up (which shows ird and dish/lnbs ok) only to give me rcvr not yet authorized nag on finish of boot sequence.

So I am afraid I need a new pc. Any thoughts ?
BTW, will the 301--10s work for me with legacy lnbs ? I do have a dp adapter (untested). Have to do some searching for info on the 010s, as they are new to me. When I connect them with their cards, they never acquire a satellite, nor can I see 101 etc. Haven't yet jtagged them or anything else.