Anyone notice...?

[Wiley-X]

Anyone notice that ROM102 REV10C's are getting HARDER to glitch??
It can't be my imagination. A few months ago, I found the "sweet spot" on my Powersync and Nexus White/Clear and was unlocking everything I put into them. A 10C took between 10-50 minutes to unlock...and every one of them unlocked!

Lately, with ROM102 REV10C (fresh from the stream...mostly sub'd cards) I can throw the card on either glitcher and it just spits dots and dashes at me for hours....with no result in the end.

The only 10C's that I am able to currently open are those that took the REV update months ago and were removed from the stream. I think SI has inserted some new hooks into the card that are preventing RM-1A/C from snagging those elusive Woo-Hoo's.

Anyone else getting this same experience? Maybe I should go back to decaf and lay off the shrooms???

~Wiley~

[kjp1007]

Not just you, I used to pop them in less than 10 minutes at switch 4, 195 ohms, blue nexus, now I loop half of them

[maverik35]

I agree totally with Willev-X....The first ones poped in les than 1 hr...After that, few weeks ago, they can take up to 7 hrs...I have unlocked 20 cards 10c none looped...100% eficcency...But I noticed that they became harder to pop....That is a fact....
Hey Willev, I'm finding the way to open those stubborn fuck...rs...The last 3 took between 3 and 4 houres, but before that took 27 hours and nothing...But I think I have something to screw them...It also happens with 10B....Take eternity to open and maybe you will not open them...But I'll post how I do it, It maight work for you....

[cmd82]

i noticed also i have 1 i have ran evertying on and even unlooper scripts hell it wont even loop it, i ran it @ 10c with no blocker, unlocked it and wrote the wrong been to it and have not been able to unlock it again i have ran it for over 3 days and have tried everything..not sure but,at this time i dont even bother with it no more just cough it up as its unlockable toss it to the side

[adrenaline]

I was involved in a lengthy thread on another board about this exact same topic - we were discussing the Rev248 which is equivalent to the 10C - pretty interesting what other people thought. I used to be able top pop 248's like nothing with my cyclone but now it seems I'm looping every one. Out of the last 5 that I've tried fresh from the stream they have all looped. Prior to that I popped about 12 in a row.

[Wiley-X]

Can you PM me with links to that thread??? I would really appreciate it.

[MFK]

Yes, I just sent 2 - 10b's out to get unlocked by the best in the business, and they both took awhile, and they both eventually looped. He opened my other 2 (103 and 105) cards, no problem. They are making them harder to glitch or easier to loop or both :).

[mopar611]

Nothing has changed on the codespace since the update.

If you are having a difficult time now unlocking your cards,
its probably your equipment getting worn out. (AKA your trim pot)

If you guys understood what it takes to unlock a high rev cam, you
would know why they loop so easily..

Props to rebel.

Mopar

[eric keri]

Yes very correct, The longer it the card is in the stream the harder it is to open. I noticed this about 2 month's ago. I never looped a 10C before. (50+ 10C's and never looped!!) I didn't get my hands on any for about a month. Then I got 3 10c's in. ALL LOOPED... When I first started I had a 70% opening rate on 10b's. Now I'll take a 10b over a 10C any day. I haven't looped a 10B in months. I get the stubborn 10b's some times but They still pop. I just popped a 10B in 50 secs. Normally less then 3 minutes.

But for your question. YES they are getting harder. There is a New script for 10c's and 28A's by PERIQUITO!

I want to get my hands on a 10C now and test it out..

[satnutzz]

........................."There is a New script for 10c's and 28A's by PERIQUITO!".....................eric.........you have a link//copy to post?;):D

[Wiley-X]

The Script from PERIQUITO...It's not really new....and I get the same results as with RM-1A.

If the card has been in the stream in the past couple of months...I can't open it. They are really starting to stack up here.

[Wiley-X]

Nothing has changed on the codespace since the update.

If you are having a difficult time now unlocking your cards,
its probably your equipment getting worn out. (AKA your trim pot)

If you guys understood what it takes to unlock a high rev cam, you
would know why they loop so easily..

Props to rebel.

Mopar


Disagree with you...something HAS changed. I had the same thought as you, bought a new PowerSync and Nexus Clear and still have about twenty 10C's I cannot get into. I think I am going to try that Vortex unlocker next.

[DB]

Nothing has changed on the codespace since the update.

If you are having a difficult time now unlocking your cards,
its probably your equipment getting worn out. (AKA your trim pot)

If you guys understood what it takes to unlock a high rev cam, you
would know why they loop so easily..

Props to rebel.

Mopar
I totally agree with you. Nothing has changed in the REV10C codespace that would cause problems with glitching. The only code that has changed sence REV10C/REV248 hit the stream is the MECM code which has nothing to do with glitching. The code is exactly the same other then the mecm code as it was when it first hit the stream.

[adrenaline]

Can you PM me with links to that thread??? I would really appreciate it.

Sorry dude - I would but it's a private board.

[mopar611]

Disagree with you...something HAS changed.

You are sure entitled to your opinion. But at least know what you
are talking about. Nothing has been updated to the eeprom
that is relevant to unlocking 10C.

Your are assuming something is wrong cause you cant get into it.

Why dont you diss the rebels code and see why instead
of blaming it on the card?

I know whats going on... Its a shame too. Its very complicated and
it took me a very long time to understand it.

[satnutzz]

You are sure entitled to your opinion. But at least know what you
are talking about. Nothing has been updated to the eeprom
that is relevant to unlocking 10C.
Your are assuming something is wrong cause you cant get into it.
Why dont you diss the rebels code and see why instead
of blaming it on the card?


"I know whats going on... Its a shame too. Its very complicated and
it took me a very long time to understand it."

......I'm all ears & my wife sez I'm very understanding...........:D

[mopar611]

......I'm all ears & my wife sez I'm very understanding...........:D

Good. Cause I already posted an answer..

[Wiley-X]

Thanks for that answer.....

Oh, and by the way...I have found a simple cure for cancer....I will post it later.

[satnutzz]

.............mebbe.......RM1A.......haz the ability.......to "call home".........after X# of unlocks.......it stops workin:eek:

[DB]

Did you ever think about setting up a port sniffer program and watching the cmd's RM1A sends to the cam when it glitchs. If you don't want to do that find a higher REV script where the cmd's are in your face in the script and look at them. Have you ever thought about disassembling the flash(RSX1) for your loader and seeing what it does? I can tell you Mopar has. I know for a fact Crazy79 posted a log of whats cmd's RM1A sends to the cam when it glitches. Do a search and look for it. Take a look at those and disassembnle the cmds and see what it does. No one is going to give a hand out especially when wiley-x is involved with his smart ass comments. This is why you will never learn and no one will show you anything. Keep your cure for cancer. I bet anyone who has lost a family member to cancer is gonna loves your next comments about a cure.

[Wiley-X]

DB, you apparently are the GOD of scripting, coding, programming, and anal penetration.

I'm sure you are happy with yourself in that closet, but when someone (else) asks for your GODlike abilities, can you help THEM?

I don't know what kind of beef you have with me...this week is the first time I have HEARD of you and I have been in the community for more than five years.

The only reason I don't dismiss you, is that some other users that have good creds have vouched up for you.

If you have valuable info to share, thats great. If all you want to do is harp on me...then find something else better to do.

[Wiley-X]

.............mebbe.......RM1A.......haz the ability.......to "call home".........after X# of unlocks.......it stops workin:eek:


Thought of this....new computer, new IP address, fresh copy of EVEYTHING.

Even changed dates, firewalled internet access, the whole rig.

Nothing changed.

Next idea?

[DB]

I've been here sence Oct 2005. Where the hell you been. You've been here 5 years huh. Look like 2 years to me. Look at your join date (Join Date: Jul 2006) .Who said I was god. I never said that. I don't have all the answers. Never said I did. You started this shit when you said I was wrong and full of shit. I'm sorry you are the one full of shit. If I or anyone else sees something posted that isn't correct of course it will get corrected by someone who does know. Thats all I did to you and you didn't like being told you were wrong. I asked you to test a couple of things in the rom102 simulator which you refused to come back and do sence you most likly don't know how to do it.

As far as something changing in the rev10C codespace. Nothing has. I log almost everyday and have never seen an update for the rev10C codespace other then the orignal emm$E3's for the REV10C update or the MECM updates. NOTHING has changed that will effect glitching. As far as learing whats going on with glitch. Mopar and I already told you what to do. Take that advice and use it to figure out whats going on when you glitch. Your not going to get a hand out. No one will post the info for you. Actually the log is already posted. Take a look for it.

Is that all you can do is name call. Shows your age. What are you 12. Get a life. Go find somewhere else to spout your crap BS. Everyone can see right through your BS posts.

[Wiley-X]

All the name-calling aside. I've been around the "community", Mili's is but a small part of that, for more than 5 years. I would like you to find a post where I said you were "full of shit". You became upset because I commented on another thread that it was impossible to have a wide-open image built three years ago still be up and running wide-open (blockerless) without any changes to the BIN at all. I am done arguing with you about that. The PPV strings posted would probably work (if all of the ranges are covered and the PPV expire date is out far enough). I was talking about the "other" tiers changing in the past 15 months.

So you are suggesting to use a port sniffer to log the commands that RM-1A sends through the serial port. Was I supposed to do this 10 months ago when RM-1A was first released to see a difference in the commands being sent now?

I am asking you (not being sarcastic) are you inferring that the program has somehow changed the glitching method from when it was originally done? Are you hinting that the author may have inserted some doomsday code?

[Wiley-X]

You are sure entitled to your opinion. But at least know what you
are talking about. Nothing has been updated to the eeprom
that is relevant to unlocking 10C.

Your are assuming something is wrong cause you cant get into it.

Why dont you diss the rebels code and see why instead
of blaming it on the card?

I know whats going on... Its a shame too. Its very complicated and
it took me a very long time to understand it.

I looked through a great deal of your old postings here. I didn't see anything mentioned about RM-1A. Did you discuss the matter elsewhere that I can go & read?

I am not experiencing 100% failure to open ROM102 REV10C/REV10B cards...just the ones that have touched the stream in the past few months. I have opened several 10C's this week from receivers recovered from storage bins that have been out of the stream for about a year. They all opened without problems.

[Wiley-X]

The whole tone of this thread has gotten way out of hand. I had just posted a question to see if anyone else was experiencing something that I was.

If I have offended anyone, I apologize (I can man-up that far at least). My general attitude sometimes is gruff (my wife reminds me everyday) so I can sometimes word a post in a nasty manner without meaning to.

I do not claim to be an expert, coder, or even extremely knowledgeable. Things I have experienced, I generally chime in on. I am experinced in electronics and some machine code. I used to code when COMOL and COBOL were the high level languages of the future (remember that far back??). I picked my teeth on Commodore 64's and learned Machine Language the hard way (without the aid of assemblers). I don't own a manual (and haven't had the inclination to download one on any particular ST devices that we run these marvelous scripts on. I appreciate the coders that bring us these great tools and try not to "diss" anyone that contributes to the general community.

[DB]

All the name-calling aside. I've been around the "community", Mili's is but a small part of that, for more than 5 years. I would like you to find a post where I said you were "full of shit". You became upset because I commented on another thread that it was impossible to have a wide-open image built three years ago still be up and running wide-open (blockerless) without any changes to the BIN at all. I am done arguing with you about that. The PPV strings posted would probably work (if all of the ranges are covered and the PPV expire date is out far enough). I was talking about the "other" tiers changing in the past 15 months.

So you are suggesting to use a port sniffer to log the commands that RM-1A sends through the serial port. Was I supposed to do this 10 months ago when RM-1A was first released to see a difference in the commands being sent now?

I am asking you (not being sarcastic) are you inferring that the program has somehow changed the glitching method from when it was originally done? Are you hinting that the author may have inserted some doomsday code?

You pretty much did say I was full of shit. Maybe not in those exact words. It had nothing to do with tiers. As far as the tiers. Yes it can be done as well. So what if the tiers ranges have changed. I'm talking about the emm$81 writing the provider filter data type after that emm is processed and emm$42 writing the new 0106 keys and data types after it has processed this emm . Go back and read it. Here's what you said and is dead wrong.

The 0106 provider code was added within the last two years. Yes, the keys will roll (when there are old keys to roll from). If you never added a 01016 provider onto your image, then how did it get there? That kind of thing DOES NOT "autoroll" just because you are not using a blocker. Yes, the 0106 keys will autoroll (as long as there is a provider 0106 there in the first place).


You don't need the provider 0106 data types for the new 0106 keys to roll. The cam processes the emm$42 and then writes the new key and data type to the data space. If there is an old data type and key it then writes over the old key and old data type. after the new data type has been writen.



Lolipop,
Let it go.... let people say what they will....almost all of the tiers have changed format at least once in the past 15 months that NO STRING could have "auto-corrected" for. And the 3 year guy...wonder how he got the 0106 provider on his card??? Guess he's lucky and DN decided to add the provider and keyslots for him 'cause he's a nice guy???

Don't need to be lucky when these emms are sent out as a global emm. They go to every cam in the stream.


Go back to that thread and o what I said to do in the sim and watch what happens when you remove those data types. You will find new data types writen to your image in the sim after it processes those emms. Making smart as comments and being wrong is what pissed me off. Making jokes about having a cure for cancer also pissed me off concidering I just lost a family member 3 weeks ago to lung cancer.


Now back on track to this thread. No more recaps. I'm done with it. The port sniffer will show the same cmd's being sent now as it did when it was first released. I am looking at a log of it right now that was uploaded by Crazy79. I take this back you won't find this log as it was posted in a private forum. The cmd's have not changed one bit. Your best bet is to get the port sniffer. Use the cmd's you log and send them to a rev10C blockerless image in the sim and see what happens when you send these cmd's. I'll tell you the program used to get this log is free. It's called free-serial-port-monitor. Take and run this program while you are glitching. That will show you the cmd's being sent to the cam whiule you are glitching with RM1A.

[JT]

Can we end this guys, please? I've taken a side on this issue, and sorry Wiley-X, I'm sticking with Mopar and DB. Now let's just assume they know what they're talking about so we don't have to close or delete this thread all together.

[Wiley-X]

So you are saying if I set a blockerless card out without the 0106 provider or 0106 keys and let it sit in the stream, an 0106 provider will magically appear, along with the keys?

Or.....

In my experience, the card will sit there with a black screen for hours, days, (and I never took it past days into weeks, but you get the picture). An 0106 provider will never manifest itself unless you call DishNet and have them hit that particular married sub'b card and update the card.

I am not being sarcastic, just asking a question.

[Wiley-X]

Can we end this guys, please? I've taken a side on this issue, and sorry Wiley-X, I'm sticking with Mopar and DB. Now let's just assume they know what they're talking about so we don't have to close or delete this thread all together.

"Let's assume they know what they are talking about"?

So nobody gets educated on what they apparently "know"? I started this thread asking a question...and apparently the two of them know the answer and are playing "keep-away"???

What kind of "help" is that?

[mopar611]

"Let's assume they know what they are talking about"?

So nobody gets educated on what they apparently "know"? I started this thread asking a question...and apparently the two of them know the answer and are playing "keep-away"???

What kind of "help" is that?

Nobody here is playing keep-away.

You have the script. So diss it and see what its doing.
If you step back and read what we are telling you, you
would know what to do.

The only difference between US and you is we have looked
at what the scripts are doing and why its so hard to unlock
higher rev cards. I am NOT going to tell you what its doing.
It took me over a month to figure it out so I can just post it
for you..pffft.. aint gonna happen. Suppose you want a dump
of the sox card too?

All I am going to tell you is nothing has changed on the card.
On the rest of it, you have the info, now figure out how to
get it. We did, and so can you.

Mopar

[DB]

So you are saying if I set a blockerless card out without the 0106 provider or 0106 keys and let it sit in the stream, an 0106 provider will magically appear, along with the keys?

Or.....

In my experience, the card will sit there with a black screen for hours, days, (and I never took it past days into weeks, but you get the picture). An 0106 provider will never manifest itself unless you call DishNet and have them hit that particular married sub'b card and update the card.

I am not being sarcastic, just asking a question.Yes thats exactly what will happen. The cam will process the emm$42 and write a new data type and key into the data space. In your experience your are wrong. Remove the data type and send it in the sim. See what happens. The data type gets writen to the data space by the cam. How do you think the provider 0106 keys got on every cam in the stream (millions of cams by the way. We are not talking 10 or 20 cams in the stream). Dish didn't magicly put them on every cam in the stream. They send out a global emm that every cam in the stream will process. That emm after the cam processes it will write a new data type and key for provider 0106.. Here's that last emm$42 we got.

21006DA0CA000067046501068200102206EA5AF6A0BD7A200E DC22BB9206E89BBCC606D35837DECE2982718BBFDF6BA78E07 94A9A1F3C863727B0D48A494776097B534FA8C6C378A37CD27 36B657D51D1ECDD64CABAD3CEBE73F16414B4C8967E05A6AE6 4FF7DC22F4BF293B6C9F540236

Do me a favor instead of thinking you are right. Remove both the key00 and key01 data types for the 0106 keys in your image, not just the key. Remove the whole data type. Just zero it out. Load that image up in the rom102 simulator. Now send that emm above to the cam. It will write a new data type. I don't care what experience you have, it will write it weither you like it or not. The samething will happen in the stream. If your passing emm$42 or running blockerless it weill happen too. Are you sure when you tried this in the stream you were passing emm$42 and emm$81. I bet you weren't. By the way thats 81, not B1. This is how the 0106 keys and data types for the keys got on every cam in the stream. You see that 820010 in Red. That is the key select byte. That means it is a global emm for every cam in the stream (millions of cams by the way get that emm). The same will happen with the 0106 provider filter data type. Send that emm$81 in the other thread. The cam will write a new data type to itself. Do you really think Dish took the time to write the provider 0106 data types to every cam one at a time. cause everyone of his customers called him up. What do you think subcribers know there is a second provider added to there cam now. They make mass updates like this with global emms. Thats how keys and everything get onto your cam. Same with REV updates. They have 10 differnet keysets, but every cam will get these emm's cause they are sent in a global emm to every cam in the stream. No way would Dish do each cam at a time when they can easily send 1 emm in the stream that every cam will process.

[mopar611]

Why you are at it..

Post up the delays for 109+ scripts.
For each script you can find for unlocking
high rev cams. All of them. Or at least
the ones you can find or have.

Mopar

[DB]

BTW this is really my last post about this until you try this in the sim and watch what happens. You want to be a tester. Do what I am telling you and send that emm to a image with DT's removed in the sim and see what happens. If you can't find the sim I will send you a link to it. Cause this is just BS that you can't or won't just listen to me and try this in the sim like I am telling you to do. The cam will make up a new DT with that key and write it to the data space. Can't understand what else I have to do to get you to understand this. I have explain this several time and all you need to do is test this in the sim to see it with your own eyes.



BTW make sure that image is blockerless that you load up into the sim. I'll be waiting for you to try this out and report back. Anyone else can join in and try this out too. I can supply blockerless image, links to the sim, and logs with emms to send in the sim if anyone wants to try this at home. Just ask.


If you need a link to that port sniffer just ask too. I have that right here right now. I will upload it and post the link if anyone wants to log the cmd's RM1A sends to the cam while glitching. I can also provider links to a disassemblier if you or anyone else doesn't have one.




Here's an image of the sim on my screen I just did up. I first removed the DT with the provider0106 keys. I sent the emm and I just opened up the eeprom that I have loaded in the sim. When there is any type of changes made to the image loaded in the sim. They are in blue. Do you see the new DT on the lower left of the picture. Thats the new DT and key that was writen to the image when I sent the emm$42. On the right is the decrypted emm I just sent.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/199/newdtjz0.jpg




Here's the emm$81. Same applies to this. I sent the emm to a blockerless image in the sim. In Blue is the new DT that was writen to it. Just below it is a new DTE0 that cam writes to itself too. Not sure what else I can do to prove to you you are wrong other then you actually doing the work to see it with your own eyes.


http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1213/providerfiltersg8.jpg

[fubr]

DB, you apparently are the GOD of scripting, coding, programming, and anal penetration.

I'm sure you are happy with yourself in that closet, but when someone (else) asks for your GODlike abilities, can you help THEM?

I don't know what kind of beef you have with me...this week is the first time I have HEARD of you and I have been in the community for more than five years.

The only reason I don't dismiss you, is that some other users that have good creds have vouched up for you.

If you have valuable info to share, thats great. If all you want to do is harp on me...then find something else better to do.
the first line of this post makes me want to rid the world of this user name all in itself, But we dont usually do that here.
I read a few more post in this thread and when you spout off at D.B. about anal penetration I have to stop it here.
I dont give a fuck what else gos on in this thread but you are not gonna post like that again and me look the other way.
There is a hook on the entrance of this site, hang your ego on it before entering again and all will be fine.
you also said mili was a "small" part of this community......LOL fucker has been here longer than any other that speaks volumes to me, remember the name of this site before it was nicknamed mili's marauders? LOL I dint think so, I do and it started with A BIG OLE "L"

NO more opinions here, do as they say, run the sim (after you ask how to do it)
and follow what they say then post, DO NOT post in here again till you have ran the sim with the emm's and can back up what ya say.
I was fair with you, asked(commented) to nit fuck with D.B. or mopar, and then I read you calling him the god of buttfucking.
c'mon man it is up to you, I am asking you to please be cool and stay loose, your barking up the wrong tree.

[fubr]

Nobody here is playing keep-away.

You have the script. So diss it and see what its doing.
If you step back and read what we are telling you, you
would know what to do.

The only difference between US and you is we have looked
at what the scripts are doing and why its so hard to unlock
higher rev cards. I am NOT going to tell you what its doing.
It took me over a month to figure it out so I can just post it
for you..pffft.. aint gonna happen. Suppose you want a dump
of the sox card too?

All I am going to tell you is nothing has changed on the card.
On the rest of it, you have the info, now figure out how to
get it. We did, and so can you.

Moparmopar this hits the nail on the head,
for 6 months I watched and read every post you and D.B. made in a thread under the guide of "he who must not be named" and I never saw him give you shit, I did see you D.B. and crazy1_79 com light years in the matter of months, Me and "him" would talk in private a time or two and he never gave me shit either, I always respected the way you three guys learned by DOING it and was jealous that I dint have time to tag along. the forums are full of people who have been given shit to put on their cards......then there are a few who LEARN IT.
I can count on my hand the number.
anyway, post it pffft!!!!! LOL hell no...do keep us going but yes make us learn this along the way,
thanks to all you who do give. Like I said back then, I will do my part to make it easier for you guys to do ya'lls.
I always said the smartest members we had here are ones who dont post much :)
lets learn this shit!!! urahhh.


wiley....take this oportunity and take them up on this offer, turn it around and show them you can and will do it. make us all say damn,,,,this guy "gets it"

[alsouthster]

well I having nothing in particular to add to the issue here BUT I do know that when I posted my first idiotic question on this board one of the first, if not the first, person to help me was DB

[JT]

Good points fubr. I probably should have taken more action already. Hopefully proper respect will be given and someone might learn something new.

[alsouthster]

i.e. breath of the dog

[blazin6969]

What are you looking at when you do compare these scripts though? And I've noticed I pop more with rm1a then I do with rm1c...Still tring to figure this out but always willing to learn something.

[cmd82]

ok i have noticed its alittle harder as in i have a 10c i thought was loss to the locked world until today if any of you know some unlockers have switchs and some dont well mine does and i know what they do SW1
Enable Flash
SW2
Atmel Pin 16 to GND*
SW3
Full Negative Clock Slope
SW4
Half Negative Clock Slope
SW5
Full Positive Clock Slope
SW6
Half Positive Clock Slope
this is what mine do and it tells me to run in normal mod with sw5 on,so this is a full positive slope so after many and i mean many days of letting this 10c run i gave it one last run today,after all day of nothing and throwing everything at it and i mean everything,modin scripts everything, i decided to check what my switchs meant and decided well full positive hmm what happens if i try 1/2 positive,with in 10seconds it was unlocked !!!!!!!!!!yes i did it after almost a sold week runin trying and saying itnot gona open it did in 10 seconds on 1/2 positive slope i hope this helps do tell if so

[cmd82]

i will add that this was the 1st 10c i could not get in, until now on 1/2 positive slope setting on unlocker i do have the diode mod installed,as far as what ohms, shit i think i trashed my pot along time ago as it has never made any differnace were it was set,i thought maybe since i turned it tofar and it falt like it was stripped it didnt work so i now i just turn it all the way down till i get a bad cmd4 and scripts shut down,and pull it back alittle until they stay runnin not sure what ohms?

[lightning0009]

I noticed they seem harder to unlock now. So my pot is bad? I usually use a high quality pot. I'll change it I guess. Now which pot was I using?

[blazin6969]

Is it possible to just use rm1a on the 10cs?

[Zerokill]

ok i have noticed its alittle harder as in i have a 10c i thought was loss to the locked world until today if any of you know some unlockers have switchs and some dont well mine does and i know what they do SW1


Enable Flash

SW2

Atmel Pin 16 to GND*

SW3

Full Negative Clock Slope

SW4

Half Negative Clock Slope

SW5

Full Positive Clock Slope

SW6

Half Positive Clock Slope
this is what mine do and it tells me to run in normal mod with sw5 on,so this is a full positive slope so after many and i mean many days of letting this 10c run i gave it one last run today,after all day of nothing and throwing everything at it and i mean everything,modin scripts everything, i decided to check what my switchs meant and decided well full positive hmm what happens if i try 1/2 positive,with in 10seconds it was unlocked !!!!!!!!!!yes i did it after almost a sold week runin trying and saying itnot gona open it did in 10 seconds on 1/2 positive slope i hope this helps do tell if so

What unlocker do you have? Nexus? Powersync? Is that the only switch you had when you opened your high-rev card?

I have a 10B that I cannot seem to open at all! I have tried EVERYTHING!

[cmd82]

Is it possible to just use rm1a on the 10cs?
yes you can use the 1st rm1 it will unlock 10cs i have done it
as in which unlocker do i have i have no clue,i bought it off a guy under the table,not off any web sight i havent ever seen it for sale its name was RU300 works like a charm i also have done the diode mod other then that thats about all i know

[asgard]

I said this years ago about hu and I will say it again cards have a life span and everytime you try to pop it you take from its life. That is why it gets harder to pop I read this a long time ago and its most likely true.

[lefty]

The following text file was collected from the net. I do not know the person that wrote it but I saved it for future reference. That said.......take this info with salt......

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DIP switch settings for Unlocking & Flashing

C/P from an original post by Morphine

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I've made this post because as I look through these forums I can not believe there are people that are putting these couple hundred dollar cards in there unlockers and not knowing what the Dip switch settings are used for. I have a Nexus and have spent a few minutes tracing the lines for the Dip settings.

OK, first I would like to clear up is on these Orange, Blue, Clear Nexus's. You do not have to have pin 1 & 6 down to be able to flash. I don't know who came up with that but they don't know what there talking about. The only pin you need down to flash on these Nexus's is Pin 6. Pin 1 is a clock line and it doesn't hurt to have it down while flashing but I'm sure it doesn't help neither and could be a reason why so many people are having problems flashing there loaders.

Remember that only one clock pin can be down at one time or you can damage your loader.

Pins 1-4 are your clock pins on the Nexus Orange/Blue/White/Cyclone. I will say it again so that we can stop this miss information about flashing nexus's. You DO NOT need to have Pin 1 down to flash your loader, only Pin6 needs to be down. I've trace all pin outs on the Nexus and Pin1 has nothing to do with flashing, it is a glitch clock line.

Orange/Blue/White/Nexus & Cyclone

Pin1 - 9.216mhz/Inverted (-CLK/2)
Pin2 - 18.432mhz/Non Inverted (+CLK) *Used most often for glitching*
Pin3 - 18.432mhz/Inverted (-CLK)
Pin4 - 9.216mhz/Non Inverted (+CLK/2)
Pin5 - Grounds pin16 of Atmel/Disabled *Use with pin 2 for glitching*
Pin6 - Flash enable pin *This pin is the only one to be on while flashing*

Powersync

Pin1 - 18.432mhz/Inverted (-CLK)
Pin2 - 18.432mhz/Non Inverted (+CLK) *Used most often for glitching*
Pin3 - 9.216mhz/Inverted (-CLK/2)
Pin4 - 9.216mhz/Non Inverted (+CLK/2)
Pin5 - Flash enable pin *To be used for flashing Atmel*

T-911, Detonator XP, T6 Wave or Detonator II/ III

Pin1 - Flash enable pin *To be used for flashing Atmel*
Pin2 - Grounds pin16 of Atmel/Disabled *Use with pin 5 for glitching*
Pin3 - 9.216mhz/Inverted (-CLK/2)
Pin4 - 9.216mhz/Non Inverted (+CLK/2)
Pin5 - 18.432mhz/Non Inverted (+CLK) *Used most often for glitching*
Pin6 - 18.432mhz/Inverted (-CLK)

I've always used a Non Inverted 18.432mhz clock when unlocking my cards and have had very good luck with no loops. For the people that are looping multiple cams and are not trying this then you probably be alot better off using this chart for your benefit.

... If I made a mistake/typo somewhere then someone please correct me.

...This will also cut down on people that are looping multiple un-necessary cams.

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[DB]

Here's another one for your list. This is for the mikobu5a.

Pin1 - 9.216mhz/Non Inverted
Pin2 - 18.432mhz/Non Inverted
Pin3 - 18.432mhz/Inverted
Pin4 - 9.216mhz/Inverted
Pin5 - Disable Unlooper
Pin6 - Program Atmel

[maverik35]

Willey...I think I know how you can pop those stubborn cards 10c and b...
As I said before, I had 2 10B and 3 weeks and nothing...I was about to dump them...Then I got 3 10C, same thing...All of them in the glitcher for at least 26 hours average......
Then, I poped them all in 45 min to 4 hours max...
VERY IMPORTANT: Use a fan close to the glitcher to avoid overheating, this surely will loop your card---Make sure that glitcher is not hot, just touch it. I do it so...USE A FAN.
First, let me describe how I got around to open them.
My equipment is a Mikobu Vortex Glitcher with External Power supply set to 7.5 VDC...Never go beyond that voltage as you will end up looping some. When I decided to change the VDC to 7.5, as of today I can say my efficency is 100%, but again, I have a Mikobu VOrtex pro...
Here I describe how I did it, and did it because I was desperate about those cards.
1. Tried to open them the ususal way, using RM1C...Do not use 1A on 10c, you will loop some. The 1C is somehow made to deal with 10C and B's. Use RM 1A for B's only. I say it because of my experience. I looped 50% 10c's using RM 1B...
Let them in the glitcher for at least 6 hours.
2. If it does not open, something that will hapen as noticed latetly, Stop glitching.
3. I used a pot to 220 ohms (always same VDC = 7.5), same RM 1C and begin glitching...Let the card in there for 2 hours or more, it is up to you...You can still work with your pc doing your work, if you want, just minimize the window...It wont pop....
4. Move the pot to a value of 185 Ohms. begin glitching....Same time, 2 or 3 hours. Stop glitching.
5. Very important, and I think hre coul be the trick, get the card out the glitcher and reflash it with ND13, use any 102 rev 10C omniunlocker script from rebelserf (tehy use the ND13 flash or the newdRS according to the script.
6. Re insert the card in glitcher and run the script, same values for VDC and use the pot 200ohms. Let it run for 3 hors or so...Then move pot to 185 to 195, re run the script..
Let it in there for 2 hors or so...I might open, maybe not..It is not important at this point.
6. Get the card out and REFLASH wit RSX1, get rid of pots, just glitch it and IT WILL POP..
It might take between 1 hr to 4 hrs, but IT will POP...
It worked for me 6 times...None looped...Before this method, I had opoened 18 B's and C's with my mikobu Vortex in 1 to 2 hours...Never looped one. The last six were a nightmare..As I described before, neither opened nor looped, just nothing happened.

I'd like to say that before, when I started in this testing stuff, I had my mikobu vortex pro
and I used it using PS2 connector in my mikobu, provindig 12VDC, and looped 50% of the 10c's and 10b's along with RM1A.
Then, changed to external power supply set to 7.5VDC and using RM1c. Never looped one again, even the stubborn ones....
I think the trick coul be in reflashing and using a different script....Maybe only reflashing..
If you ewant me to post some glitching info of cards latetly, I can....

This worked for me and still works, as I opened one more today..I started yesterday in the morning, And it poped few hores ago, using the method I described..
Good luck...

[niceman99]

So you are saying if I set a blockerless card out without the 0106 provider or 0106 keys and let it sit in the stream, an 0106 provider will magically appear, along with the keys?

Or.....

In my experience, the card will sit there with a black screen for hours, days, (and I never took it past days into weeks, but you get the picture). An 0106 provider will never manifest itself unless you call DishNet and have them hit that particular married sub'b card and update the card.

I am not being sarcastic, just asking a question.
i have those channels and keys and my card was locked way ....at least 6 months before the 0101 0106 keyz ...

[soundsource]

Hey Wiley, you probably remember me from the buzz days, and I must admit I haven't read all of this thread, but yes the key locations will update,and I have been running blockerless no touch for over two and a half years.