View Full Version : N3 Loader Unlocker !!!!!
jocko50
10-22-2008, 08:22 PM
Looks like XXX.D**DOODA is offering something called the slinger for N3. Anyone hear of this thing ?????:rolleyes:
jocko50
10-22-2008, 08:26 PM
Maybe a slingbox concept? It is advertised under unlockers when you click for more info on that site.
Zerokill
10-22-2008, 09:38 PM
I don't particularly care for the track record of dooda myself....too many people have had problems.
pecker88
10-22-2008, 10:06 PM
Unlocker...LOL
Look at the cat5 network port on the back of the unit, its no unlocker. Rumored to be a network, card sharing device for dik and bev issued ird's.
asgard
10-22-2008, 10:10 PM
He says its for n3 but he is still taking p4-5 and d1 cards and don't want any ROM makes you wonder.
It's $500 dollars with no description of what it even does or how it does it. Dooda is also selling "official" Lexus products still. I'd hold back and wait for someone very reputable to vouch for this product.
adrenaline
10-23-2008, 12:10 AM
Apparently here's the insides.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo329/Slingmeister/slingmeister.gif
richard g
10-23-2008, 12:40 AM
i agree with jt, until it show's up here and has milli's endorsment i'd stay away from it
Zerokill
10-23-2008, 12:53 AM
I googled it and read some UK Forums... apparently it's a cardsharing device...but for specific models (at least over there) of "MOSC" (That's what they call our Echo* ROM's).
Apparently most of the UK's cable systems are currently being secured by ROM10/11 (Yes, that's right, ROM10's and 11's) and are getting ready to migrate to the N3 stream (totally by-passing the N2 stream I guess).
Interesting. It does look like a network enabled card programmer from what I can see. Maybe a .NET device connecting to a server to program the card through the Internet? If it is an IKS device what the fuck is a card slot and all them extra shits and dingdongs doing on it? Anyone feel like asking dssdooda WTF is this?
mili
speculation says it is some kind of dave hack......well I doubt it buthe did buy alot of dave cards for cheap.
no word back from him yet maybe it is still dark there. :)
Dragster
10-23-2008, 06:33 AM
Maybe it's the dave tv iks box.:D
Praxis
10-23-2008, 07:48 AM
My guess is that it connects to a server - detects your card and unlockes it using their private code (& your pc hp) without having to release the glitch code. As for programming N3 I'm sure that will come in another deal from their end as well.
If it is totally legit and not b/s this is one blow dish/bev did not expect for many months if ever. As for the bottom feeders who use public code I would suspect that it will still be a few months - probably in the new year before freeware starts floating around.
NICKY__6
10-23-2008, 09:13 AM
they are a company that makes there living off stealing the hard work of others
making cheap Chinese clones. every product they have on there site they have copied from the original and not paid anyone for the design.
i thought it was just me with the digital unlockers
but now i found out they promised the same deal to the powersync guy but in the end just copied it and said ha ha
i wonder who invented the slinger and is getting screwed
asgard
10-23-2008, 09:23 AM
Well I asked and here it is
SLINGER is for new and latest SWAP N3 Card programming.
NICKY__6
10-23-2008, 09:27 AM
Well I asked and here it is
SLINGER is for new and latest SWAP N3 Card programming.
wow awesome that answered all of our questions thanks !! :)
all that detail was not important lol
it looks to me that it is for a card share operation it has a ethernet port and a cardslot
so they may be planning to make non iks fta or ird use a subb card for authorization packets and use a card share type operation.
but probably they dont even have a clue what its for they just figure if they are the first site to put up any sort of hw with n3 on it everyone going to be going to there site to buy stuff IF anything comes out
Benleo1
10-23-2008, 09:28 AM
Well I asked and here it is
SLINGER is for new and latest SWAP N3 Card programming.
Did they say it was an IKS card sharing device or did they say they had an actual N3 programming solution?
NICKY__6
10-23-2008, 09:29 AM
Did they say it was an IKS card sharing device or did they say they had an actual N3 programming solution?
benleo1 you are a smart guy we have talked in chat
if there is a n3 programing solution you are not going to hear about it first from dssdooda
Benleo1
10-23-2008, 09:35 AM
wow awesome that answered all of our questions thanks !! :)
all that detail was not important lol
it looks to me that it is for a card share operation it has a ethernet port and a cardslot
so they may be planning to make non iks fta or ird use a subb card for authorization packets and use a card share type operation.
The card sharing devices for Dish or Bev IRD's are going to cost around $200.00. They probably stole the design added some crap to it and are trying to sell it at $500.00.
The new devices that are coming out in the private groups ( within the next 1-2 months )will work on old 2800's as well as VIP HD units.
Unlike the FTA card sharing HD units that cost close to $ 500.00, these new devices have no freezing problems or down time. It's just a matter of getting the prototypes mass produced.
NICKY__6
10-23-2008, 09:42 AM
The card sharing devices for Dish or Bev IRD's are going to cost around $200.00. They probably stole the design added some crap to it and are trying to sell it at $500.00.
The new devices that are coming out in the private groups ( within the next 1-2 months )will work on old 2800's as well as VIP HD units.
Unlike the FTA card sharing HD units that cost close to $ 500.00, these new devices have no freezing problems or down time. It's just a matter of getting the prototypes mass produced.
the steal the design part you got 100% correct cause thats what they did to me.
but anyway i have heard of something along these lines coming out and i was under the impression that it would not matter what ird you used it with anything with a card
thanks
Benleo1
10-23-2008, 09:55 AM
You are 100% correct. They work with any IRD. The prototypes are working. The 200 bucks include the device and programming for one year. I am NOT a dealer, but If they get them mass produced in China, I'll E Mail Mili when they are ready for the resellers. I have no idea what resellers will want for them. I think it's better than FTA card sharing.
ruciz
10-23-2008, 01:29 PM
anyone got a schematic or board layout for these gizmos?
Praxis
10-24-2008, 06:30 AM
anyone got a schematic or board layout for these gizmos?
lol, at least wait until some people on here get them before you ask for a layout on how to copy it....lol
ruciz
10-24-2008, 01:23 PM
I hand-make all my boards - much safer than ordering from some wacky site, hell of a lot cheaper, quicker, and more customizable.
NICKY__6
10-24-2008, 01:29 PM
I hand-make all my boards - much safer than ordering from some wacky site, hell of a lot cheaper, quicker, and more customizable.
you can only make the board if u have the schematic of it
and with the multi layer and surface mount components how you gonna manage that
i have built many a board and loader in my day but u still are going to need the basic board made in the factory like when u do a powersync
this is not a single layer board u can make with a blank and some copper
it will have surface mount and socket components and there wont be a schematic out right away on it.
its not a simple board like a bga or something
lolipop
10-24-2008, 02:33 PM
LOL you guys are trying to make something you have no idea what it is or what it does and arguing how to make it. LOL
ruciz
10-24-2008, 06:22 PM
you can only make the board if u have the schematic of it
and with the multi layer and surface mount components how you gonna manage that
i have built many a board and loader in my day but u still are going to need the basic board made in the factory like when u do a powersync
this is not a single layer board u can make with a blank and some copper
it will have surface mount and socket components and there wont be a schematic out right away on it.
its not a simple board like a bga or something
Actually smt is easier and cheaper, and smaller.. MaxMel works great on 6000s too if its SMT as it can take 3v3 and bypass the AVR protection without any extra circuitry. SMT is actually my preferred method of fab... no arm killing drilling of 17 different drill sizes, easy soldering with right tools etc.
Multi layer boards are easy, but with a schematic I could redesign to single layer with eagleCAD.. it will just be a larger board... I usually do this for proof of concept before shelling out for a line run of fabbed PCBs that could be questionable.
I consider this a hobby not a chore for getting TV.. I like this aspect of it not sitting in front of a screen for hours letting MTV rot me from the inside out.
brirup
10-27-2008, 02:55 AM
Here are some updated pics of the new Slinger.
http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/jcookmetal/card_bottom.jpghttp://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/jcookmetal/card.jpg
http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/jcookmetal/board.jpg
McLovin
10-27-2008, 06:42 AM
odd how those two double row connectors on its side are set at an angle.
Here are some updated pics of the new Slinger.
http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/jcookmetal/card_bottom.jpghttp://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/jcookmetal/card.jpg
http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/jcookmetal/board.jpg
Kind of resembles a glorified AVR-X
Kaz
asgard
10-27-2008, 04:47 PM
Looks like the card is wired with a phone line to slinger which is hooked up to dsl line and you need N3 sub-ed placed in slot to do the math just like magic or avr-x with a twist. And if you recall the dtv system named gold card something. So how does it work slinger gets keys off net shares keys with your N3 and sends info to ird and the magic starts and then !!!POOF!!! someone cracks the system the support fades and you have a 500.00 clams Ice scraper. I have been down this road many times. PS the jacks on the side are usb in and out like the old db9's.
althor123
10-27-2008, 05:21 PM
as a side note to fubr's comment about it being dave, it is awful coincidental that around the same time rumors have been flying all around about NDS being compromised in germany.
Satsam
10-27-2008, 07:47 PM
An the plot thickens......................
Zerokill
10-27-2008, 08:19 PM
Yes, several popular Euro boards are now claiming that the NDS encryption system has been compromised. Zacky's, Blinky's, and Techwatch all have users claiming to have dumps of the NDS card currently deployed to European Sat/Cable systems- should only be a matter of time before it makes it to our shores...I will be willing to bet that Murdock won't sit around and let Dave be "tested"...he will swap cards again quickly.
Yes, several popular Euro boards are now claiming that the NDS encryption system has been compromised. Zacky's, Blinky's, and Techwatch all have users claiming to have dumps of the NDS card currently deployed to European Sat/Cable systems- should only be a matter of time before it makes it to our shores...I will be willing to bet that Murdock won't sit around and let Dave be "tested"...he will swap cards again quickly.
Murdoch and Newscorp no longer own DTV. They got traded in the acquisition of the Wall Street Journal.
just wish full thinking when I said that.
I hope it is yes but I have no other info to lead me to believe it is for dave.
the thing says N3 loader and I doubt a dave device would be called N3.
always hope.
McLovin
10-27-2008, 09:23 PM
does dave still have tanya on his info channels? its been a long time since i've seen her. now i'm getting really excited!
odd how those two double row connectors on its side are set at an angle.
Yeah, noticed that. The layout guy was screwing around as no real estate is saved by doing that. Dual crystal and an el cheapo card socket!
Noticed more glue logic under the socket, really starting to wonder if this isn't all smoke and mirrors as No One has heard anything about it.
PS if it really is an N3 solution.............where we gonna' get N3s???
have a virgin P5 that I'll trade ;-)
McLovin
10-27-2008, 11:45 PM
even the three terminal voltage regulator has its markings filed off. as if that wasn't the easiest component to figure out.
ruciz
10-28-2008, 03:43 AM
even the three terminal voltage regulator has its markings filed off. as if that wasn't the easiest component to figure out.
ohh man, they tried but mann.. you are slick. can't fool you for a second! :P
now, if we can just pull that IC and get a dump we are sitting pretty.
Zerokill
10-28-2008, 04:46 AM
If this device is programmable, there aren't that many selections for that package...it's a stamp of some kind...as mentioned earlier...it will be the support software that makes the train go "choo choo".
even the three terminal voltage regulator has its markings filed off. as if that wasn't the easiest component to figure out.
Yeah T03 packaging isn't difficult to figure out. Asgard mentioned those angled connectors were USB in/out, look like molex connectors to me.
Curious as there is enough I/O on the board, I think it's bullshit (if it looks like, walks like and quacks like a duck...).
PS Tanya isn't there, new talent plus every once in awhile that chick that is better known for the Hughes up/downlink slow as molasses sat. internet commercials.
McLovin
11-12-2008, 04:57 AM
take a look at this similar looking device:
hxxp://cgi.ebay.com/S2E-Lan-Adapter-Linkey-turn-any-STB-into-a-Dreambox_W0QQitemZ330285284539QQcmdZViewItemQQptZA %20U_Networking?hash=it
and this:
hxxp://www.alibaba.com/catalog/103594108/Linkey.html
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