You have port problems with the Slinger? Read here!!!

[mili]

For some strange reason the coders of the Slinger did not implement uPnP to map ports with the Slingers and are using some kind of a "punch through" like Skype to traverse home routers' Network Address Translators. And guess what, that shit don't always work. We need to run a uPnP port mapper to do the mappings manually.

Ok lets try English eh?

Slingers need to listen to packets with control words coming from the online server right? Chances are you have a home router between the Slinger and the Internet. Some of these home routers are integrated into Cable and ADSL modems already. You know you have a home router if your cable or DSL modem has more than one network cable socket on it or has wireless access point capabilities built in the modem. Of course if you got a Linksys or Dlink or any other stand alone home router it is hard to miss eh?

So to get back on topic the job of these home routers is to split up the Internet connection so you can use multiple computers or any other devices that need the Internet at the same time. These routers also perform some magic like simple packet filtering if so configured but the main thing is they make every device on the inside invisible to anyone on the outside. Looking at it from the outside (Internet) all you can see is the router and its IP address and you can't connect to devices on the inside. This is actually good cause nobody can hack your shit to pieces.
The problem is for the Slinger to work it has to be visible to the server outside. To accomplish this the home router needs to be configured to allow traffic targeting the Slinger to pass through it. In geeky terms it is called NAT traversal. The easiest way to do this is to have the Slinger on the inside tell the router this:

Hey Linksys Router dude, If anyone from the Internet is trying to connect on port xyz make sure you send them to me.

The Slinger is too dumb so it can't tell this to the router for now. You need to do so yourself. One way is to do a static port map (yuck) and nother is to click a button. Hmmmm. I don't know about you but as dumb as I am I can click a button rather easily.

So.

Download this program: http://bellexpress.vu/forum/local_links.php?action=jump&id=7411&catid=63
You can search for it on the net too, it is called "upnp router port mapping tool" UPNPtool.exe

Take note of the source port you used in the Slinger 1.08 or later program to program your Slinger with. You can change this port to anything above 1000:

http://bellexpress.vu/images/local_port.jpg


In this case it is 1000



Start the upnptool.exe and put that 1000 in the Port: field.
Write Slinger in the Description Field



Select TCP first and click Map My Port


Once it is done select UDP and click click Map My Port again.

http://bellexpress.vu/images/upnp_port_mapper.jpg

In this case I erased some numbers like my IP address and router firmware from the picture but I am sure it makes no difference for you guys.

Please try this if you got problems with connecting your Slinger to the online server.

PS: It has been brought to my attention by PKD (thank you) that I assumed you guys know the IP address of your Slingers. I am an ass yes.
Well you can find out what IP address your Slinger has in two ways. If you configured the Slinger through the application to use a static IP then you already know your IP address. It has to be on the same subnet as your router, generally an IP address like 192.168.1.x where x is between 2 and 253 and is not assigned to any other device on your network like your PC.
If you chose automatic (DHCP) IP for your Slinger then you can look up the IP that has been assigned to your Slinger in your router's DHCP client table.
To do that type http://192.168.1.1 in your browser, log in, (default login ID and pass is usually admin and admin or login ID admin and no password) and look for something like

http://linksys.custhelp.com/rnt/rnw/img/enduser/KB17346-001_EN.png

http://linksys.custhelp.com/rnt/rnw/img/enduser/KB17346-002_EN.png

I forgot how the Slinger looks in that list but I am sure you will find it out.

mili

[ynotchutup]

OMFG!

Great little App!

It'll definately help with my slinger when it arrives.

Thanks Mili

[curtissclassic]

have you got to be on dsl can u just be on dial up

[BigDawg]

Why so many problems!!!

[curtissclassic]

do u have to be on dsl , can u get up on just dial up

[mili]

Why so many problems!!!
Because there are a trillion different ISPs, routers, modems and idiots trying to get it to work.

You need an Ethernet connection to the Internet. If you can somehow rig that up with a dial up modem it will work.

mili

[Doseman]

Is there any reason to believe that this device wouldn't work in conjunction with the following to make this solution "wireless"?

h**p://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WET54G

[McLovin]

Is there any reason to believe that this device wouldn't work in conjunction with the following Adapter to make this solution "wireless"?

h**p://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WUSB54G

two reasons why it wouldn't work. slinger needs an ethernet connection, this device only has a usb connection. this device connects to a computer that needs drivers to make it work. you need to get a wireless bridge with an ethernet connection to get a wireless solution.

[Doseman]

I modified the link, I definately posted the wrong one. The previous link, was not for the bridge as you said.

Actually, I was gong to withdraw my question as it looks this was also addressed in another thread:
http://www.dssftp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81359

Either way, this answers my question. I was not excited about the prospect of running RJ45 to my TV.

Thanks for the quick reply McLovin.

[dss dumazz]

Maybe I am reading this wrong but these instructions lead me to select unmap button(I assume that is what UMap means)the tcp and udp but the picture below has a pointer to the map my port button and nothing in the instructions about Map my port. I don't know which is correct, don't have my slinger yet to verify myself, just wondering if this is a typo or not. Thanks



Start the upnptool.exe and put that 1000 in the Port: field.
Write Slinger in the Description Field


Select TCP first and click UMap My Port


Once it is done select UDP and click click UMap My Port again.
http://bellexpress.vu/images/upnp_port_mapper.jpg

[mili]

UnMap will delete the uPnP mapping for the certain port and IP on your router. To add a rule you click the MAP MY PORT button.
I feel things are taking a turn for the surreal here. I don't know how much clearer can I make these instructions?

mili

[Britinpa]

Hand points at source port 10000 in slinger software. Hand points at port 1000 in mapping tool software...?

[mili]

Sorry I got trouble counting zeros. Set it to 10000 in the port mapper as well. Will redo the picture later.

mili

[dss dumazz]

Thanks Mili, guess I just wanted to make sure both TCP and UDP both get Unmapped, then click the Map my port button. Don't mean to be a PITA, just want to get it right. Thanks again.

[McLovin]

I was not excited about the prospect of running RJ45 to my TV.

i'll bet that with the iks revolution every new home construction will now include an ethernet connection at every place a tv cable connection is placed :)

[rg6a]

i'll bet that with the iks revolution every new home construction will now include an ethernet connection at every place a tv cable connection is placed :)

That would be redundant, but you did the smilie and get it. The new 'n' once standardised is very QCK. ;-)

PS that's how fast it is. ;-)

PPS within a decade, forget pulling wire to each home, will all be high speed Wi-Max and or the next Gen.

[sieberguy62]

"Thanks Mili, guess I just wanted to make sure both TCP and UDP both get Unmapped, then click the Map my port button. Don't mean to be a PITA, just want to get it right. Thanks again."


Milli, is the above post correct? Your instructions say to click on UMAP does this mean UNMAP or MAP. The hand in the pic points to MAP, there is no UMAP in the pic, kind of confusing.
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[mili]

I edited my post again. It is MAP there is no UMAP, it was a typo.

mili

[mruk69]

To help setup your port, got to hxxp://www.portforward.com (change xx to tt).

Pick the model of your router and follow the instrucrions.

[mtmt1us]

i'll bet that with the iks revolution every new home construction will now include an ethernet connection at every place a tv cable connection is placed :)

It is already happening for some time and not due to IKS.

[stugats]

I'am stuck at "UPNP device search", what know?
It won't show anything else

[SURFGUY]

I downloaded the port mapping tool, installed it and tried using it. Nothing happens!

The program won't do anything! WTF !!!

How do you guys get anything done. I can't get my slinger working with my Actiontec wireless router, and it is not on the list of tested and approved routers. I guess I'll have to start over.

Any help would be real nice.

Thanks,

Surfguy:confused:

[SURFGUY]

To help setup your port, got to hxxp://www.portforward.com (change xx to tt).

Pick the model of your router and follow the instrucrions.

If you want to pay for this service then you can try this website.
In my case, I'll pass and suffer until I find another way to do this.

Surfguy

[SURFGUY]

UnMap will delete the uPnP mapping for the certain port and IP on your router. To add a rule you click the MAP MY PORT button.
I feel things are taking a turn for the surreal here. I don't know how much clearer can I make these instructions?

mili

The instructions are o.k. with one exception. When you login as "ADMIN" in my case I had to use the password= "PASSWORD", instead of "ADMIN" or none.

On still another related problem, I downloaded the Mapping Tool from the files section, and it will not function. It does not do anything!

Where can I find some step by step instructions to map this Slinger into the LAN. I have the numbers and techincal info, but can't get the Slinger to communicate with its server.

Or maybe this Slinger is defective. How do I go about returning it for a replacement?

You don't mention anything about a warranty on these devices??

Thanks for any help,

Surfguy:confused:

[SURFGUY]

I downloaded the port mapping tool, installed it and tried using it. Nothing happens!

The program won't do anything! WTF !!!

How do you guys get anything done. I can't get my slinger working with my Actiontec wireless router, and it is not on the list of tested and approved routers. I guess I'll have to start over.

Any help would be real nice.

Thanks,

Surfguy:confused:

I replaced my wireless router, with the original WESTELL 6100 modem that I got from Verizon, and plugged into it with a D-LINK wireless router, model DI 524. -- and everything is working perfectly.

Good luck to everyone with their Slingers!

Surfguy:):D

[dssdude]

I replaced my wireless router, with the original WESTELL 6100 modem that I got from Verizon, and plugged into it with a D-LINK wireless router, model DI 524. -- and everything is working perfectly.

Good luck to everyone with their Slingers!

Surfguy:):D

If I use a D-LINK router, that will solve the problems?

I have a 2Wire and no luck yet.

I read it also has to do with the bin I use, but I´m not too sure.

This is what I have:

IRD: VIP 622 partiallly working with ATMEGA 128
IKSlinger 2.02
LAN Automatic, source port 19999, destination 2, 20668
Private bin b103
2Wire 2701-HG
Public IP assign to ether! with DMZplus

This are the steps I did:
1. Powe on Slinger
2. Orange LED, flashes 3 times
3. Blinking Green LED blinking
4. Insert card into IRD, resets IRD
5. Solid Green LED
6. Channel 101 on, Solid Green
7. Channel 102 black, Solid Orange, eventual Green flashes
8. All other N2 and N3 channels black

Any suggestions ? :confused:

[mickeyd]

I have a VIP 622 and a 2Wire 2701+HG.

I am using a Slinger w/ver2.02.

It works great when the server isn't so busy, early morning (2am)
till early evening (6pm).

From 6pm until 2am there is freezing. Some times quick some times long freezing.

HD channels freeze more than non-HD channels.

[Smurftoon]

mickeyd,

What settings did you make to your 2701HG?

I have a 2701HG-D and have tried DMZ Plus and Port Forwarding with no success.

Stuck on Solid Orange with the Slinger.

Thanks

[dssdude]

mickeyd,
What settings did you make to your 2701HG?
I have a 2701HG-D and have tried DMZ Plus and Port Forwarding with no success.
Stuck on Solid Orange with the Slinger.
Thanks
I think it´s a server problem. Same think here. Solid orange. After some resets, blinking red:mad:

[mickeyd]

All I use is DMZplus on ether!

[Smurftoon]

Mickeyd,

After countless unplugging and plugging back in the power supply of the Slinger, I finally got the flashing green light.
Plugged in the Slinger wafer and currently have freeze free video.

2701HG-D is port forwarding both TCP and UDP.

[Snowman]

Not clear. Do I use my router ip or my slinger ip Address

[mickeyd]

Mickeyd,

After countless unplugging and plugging back in the power supply of the Slinger, I finally got the flashing green light.
Plugged in the Slinger wafer and currently have freeze free video.

2701HG-D is port forwarding both TCP and UDP.
How did you set port forwarding?

I only have a 2701HG-B if it maters.

[Smurftoon]

You should find your answer with an internet search for 2701HG-B port forwarding.

[mickeyd]

From Mili, he says to DMZplus the "etherq" to forward ALL ports.

I did.

You say to forward a port or range of ports.

Which is better as you can't do both?

[JFR]

? My slinger was working jus fine last night. This afternoon, I rebooted it. Red light, orange, orange flashing, green flashing, plug into ird, still green flashing. Should light be solid before plugging it in to ird?
I just to plug it in when it was flashing green, and it would go to a solid green. Now just flashes green.
Have changed nothing in router or lan.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

[mili]

I suggest you read my How To. It is there for a reason. If you go to the end of it you will find your answer.

mili

[JFR]

It worked up to last night same router same hookup. Quit today.
OK, I went and read..
Here is log;***SLINGER LOG***
1. SOFTWARE DETECTION:OK
Software working; checksum okay.
2. DHCP:OK
Slinger acquired IP address and is recongnizable on your LAN network.
3. INTERNET:OK
Slinger successfully connected to the internet.
4. UDP:OK
Slinger successfully sent UDP packets over the internet.
5. PASSWORD:OK
Slinger successfully logged on to IKS Server.
It said something about being blacklisted. Cud that be possible? I had the power off for a day.
I'm still reading.
Point me more places to read.
Thanks, sorry I'm so dumb.

[gizmolite]

JFR you don't sound dumb buddy, if your slinger gave you a blacklisted error you should e-mail Mili at mili@dssftp.com and he'll help you get your slinger going again

[JFR]

gizmolite and others.
After posting that log saying everything was all right on the slinger. I got it going......
Dirty contacts on the plug slinger card to the ird. Just wet my fingers and rubbed.
So that log I posted said nothing was wrong, and it was right. Good info for future.
I really feel dumb, I used to clean the old atmega's all the time.....Thje contacts look good and clean, but not so. I tried two irds and both a no go till I cleaned the contacts.
More info from a dummy.

Keep a testing and messing

[arms]

Mili,

I did what you said and have requested one on one and have not seen anyone on line for 3 days. How do I make contact with you? I still have no slinger working after a month. Arms:confused:

[Guroojee]

Anybody getting PPV on 3100 or not. Plz tell as like to know if its on on this or i m doing something wrong.thanx

[mili]

They are working on adding more PPVs. And PPV is only on Dish not bell.

mili