Dish pro quad ??

[jocko50]

just wondering if all outputs at LNB DP QUAD will have both 110 and 119 availlable on them? 4 of them equals 4 recievers with 110/119 correct? Legacy recievers will not work correct?:confused:

[BLACK BART]

That's correct , both tha 110 and 119 sats on all 4 outputs!

and Legacy receiverz can / will work with Dish Pro LNBz when they're uzed along with what's called a Legacy-to-Dish Pro adapter.

[jocko50]

getting one 508 thats showing 2 119 119 when go to do check switch.???

[BLACK BART]

Your dish izzn't aimed right. Chek your skew / tilt and elevatiun adjustments. Wuz your pole perfectly plumb ( straight up and down ) before you even mounted tha dish onto it? Iz your DishPro Quad LNB being recognized by your receiver?

Make a few adjustments and then try running anuther check switch.

[Birdie]

If you have other receivers connected to it and they are showing the correct sats, First try connecting the 508 to a known good port on the quad, If that still doesn't work I would guess the 508 firmware is outdated and needs to update. Old firmware causes issues like this.

[jocko50]

If you have other receivers connected to it and they are showing the correct sats, First try connecting the 508 to a known good port on the quad, If that still doesn't work I would guess the 508 firmware is outdated and needs to update. Old firmware causes issues like this.
Thanks for the feedback guys!!!! yes there is anothere 510 connected to Quad LNB and is showing correct sats 110-119. Also a 2700 that only sees one Sat(wont' work i know).I will give it a try and check firmware. Just replaced two regulars LNB'S for this Quad, So i don't think dish needs to be re-aligned? Thank you software is P408 correct?

[jocko50]

Does DP Quad LNB need power inserter by chance? Will it work ?

[Birdie]

No it doesn't need a power inserter. Output number 1 ( Receiver 1 ) Powers the unit. Use a DP receiver for that slot, They have 750 Milliamps current to power it, The 2700 etc only has 450 Milliamps and it will probably be underpowered. The 2700 can work with that if you use a dp adapter inline with it. I haven't looked lately but I will look at my 508 and see where the firmware rev is at.

[Zerokill]

Of course you realize that there are also Legacy Quad LNBs....that support ALL receivers..,

[jocko50]

Of course you realize that there are also Legacy Quad LNBs....that support ALL receivers..,
YA just took those off dish and subsituted Quad LNB. Planning to run all DP recievers on Sub account and get rid of 2700 rec. Is the arm length the same on dish for quad lnbs versus 2 separate lnbs? D 500?

[gizmolite]

Yes

[jocko50]

Ya this is screwed up. Replaced Quad LNB for another Quad just to make sure and still getting same problems on other Recievers. I even connected the 508 to input 1 on Quad LNB and it is the shortest cable run, and that one is working properly but others only see 1 sat or 2 of the same. Had no problems with 2 dishs and 4 SW21. trying to lose a dish to tidy things up outside!

[Zerokill]

The other possibility (if all your firmware is up to date) is that the tuner chips in your receivers have become "unseated".

This is especially prevalent in receivers that have been stored for a great period of time. The solder joints of the tuner chips were never done correctly the first time (at the factory) and storage seems to exasperate the problem.

Get a hot air gun (I think someone said you can get them at Hobby shops for around $12) and heat up the Conexant chips both outside and inside the tuner. Let them cool off and then try to require the sats.

I have had MANY people bring me receivers that "don't work anymore" (most just give them to me) and a little heat goes a LONG way (LOL). I think I have fixed like 40+ receivers with this problem with a simple hot air gun.

The simple (and cheap) solutions are sometimes the BEST!

[JT]

Storage does not make the sat tuner chip desolder itself. The bad connection issue, which is mostly limited to the 301.10's, comes from turning your receiver on and off so that the tuner chip gets warm, then cold over and over and a cold solder joint can form where the chip is grounded. It's highly unlikely that three receivers out of four would have this problem even if they were all .10's.

Assuming the dish is aligned and it's a dish 500 dish, the next most likely problem is firmware. Are they all up to date firmware and have you done switch check? Put the 508 on on input one and plug in all four receivers including the sat line. You may have knocked the dish out of alignment too, so check that. Obviously if the 508 is seeing both birds then the dish is aligned.

[jocko50]

"plug in alll 4 recievers" I hope this isn't the problem as i only have 3 of them plugged in right now. So all 4 recievers have to be plugged in order for Quad to be working properly? I will give it a try. I may deserve a kick in the ass !!!!!

[JT]

Not all four receivers have to be plugged in, but you do need one hooked up to feed one on the lnb. That's the receiver that powers the lnb. It's possible that you have a bad lnb, but it's hard to make that diagnosis over the net. Bad lnb's aren't especially common either. If your feed 1 on the lnb has power from the receiver, all firmware is up to date, cabling is good and you've done switch checks, then it may be the lnb. Did you buy your quad lnb new or used?

[jocko50]

Problem SOLVED !!! Ended up being one of the lines going into the LNB was shorted or not grounded properly and was actually sparking and causing all these problems. replaced it (cable) and put in input one and all is good. Thanks for your time guys.