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oddthomas
07-09-2009, 04:38 PM
mili been a member here for several years, but couldnot get my old password, a the email account has been closed for some years now.

now I know there is alot more to the forum than what I can see, so please redirect me to where the Dp301-013 section is, I need to read up on whatever is posted there to try to mod both my boxes for slinger.

They are both Dp-301-013 units, single I believe w/matching Rom102Rev105 cards, and have been reading the very nicely put together (HOW TO) VId Mod the units, although I cannt see the (5-1/2") from the right of the unit to install the switch, from looking at my own unit from the right hand side would be well over 11-1/8" so is the placement I have correct for the SPDT toggle switch?

If not please explain.thanks for the help.
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Photo of unit below, marked.

JT
07-09-2009, 07:28 PM
I assume your trying to do the vid mod? Mili's how-to on that is great, but a better way to do the mod is with a 7812 regulator. Skinerd has drawn up a great 7812 regulator vid mod. It should be in the files section, or do a search for 7812 regulator and you should find it.

To answer your question, yes, that looks about right for where to put the toggle switch. It's not super critical to put the switch exactly where suggested. A little off is OK. A slight variation is easily compensated for when doing the rest of the vid mod.

Once you have the vid mod done, all you need to do is grab a NoRSA/public tsop image and write that to the receivers. That should be all you need to do to get the slinger going. Don't forget to save an original image from your receivers in case something doesn't work right you can always go back.

oddthomas
07-09-2009, 07:51 PM
I assume your trying to do the vid mod? Mili's how-to on that is great, but a better way to do the mod is with a 7812 regulator. Skinerd has drawn up a great 7812 regulator vid mod. It should be in the files section, or do a search for 7812 regulator and you should find it.

To answer your question, yes, that looks about right for where to put the toggle switch. It's not super critical to put the switch exactly where suggested. A little off is OK. A slight variation is easily compensated for when doing the rest of the vid mod.

Once you have the vid mod done, all you need to do is grab a NoRSA/public tsop image and write that to the receivers. That should be all you need to do to get the slinger going. Don't forget to save an original image from your receivers in case something doesn't work right you can always go back.


Thank you JT for the reply, I havent mod anything since DTV days, so forgive me if Im an idiot here, but can you tell me where the Dishnet Work 301 section is?
I had it saved on this laptop but couldnot sign back in with (Odd Thomas) any longer because that old email address is long gone.
I dont seem to be able to see the rest of the site, just this forum and the News section, so if you could direct me I would be thankful.
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Oh' and one other thing, I assume (All) DP301-013 (ONLY) need VID-MOD is that correct? so before I even start this project I guess I better ask that question, also I just got back from our local Electronic Store and picked up enough Stuff Mili posted to do (3 VID MOD) since I have several of these units, w/matching ROM102REV105 cards, and (1) w/Married G3.
Again sorry for being stupid, but I will have to learn this all over again, and order a new JTAG from Mili, I just found mine this morning, and the end connctor is broken off, wonder if I order today how long it will take to get to me? Guess I can email mili on that one.
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oddthomas
07-09-2009, 08:08 PM
Sorry to have to ask this question but do I need anything else but a JTAG? like the USB ISO 7816 programmer. or the MaxMel ISO 7816 Emulator?

But I have to ask anyway before I order them, thanks

gizmolite
07-09-2009, 08:41 PM
oddthomas, if the cams are married to those recievers then no vmod is needed

oddthomas
07-09-2009, 08:45 PM
oddthomas, if the cams are married to those recievers then no vmod is needed



Oh' OK, then STOP!

I have two 301-013 w/married ROM102REV105 Married cards they are the yellow Cards that where working with the receiver when I shut it off, so please explain

Again sorry for me being so ignorant, but everything I have read said I still have to VID MOD all units even w/married ROM CARDS

So is this not true?
YES or NO

gizmolite
07-09-2009, 08:52 PM
if your 301-013 recievers have married rom102 cams then all you need is a couple of slingers to get them operational again

oddthomas
07-09-2009, 09:04 PM
if your 301-013 recievers have married rom102 cams then all you need is a couple of slingers to get them operational again


Hey Gizmo I know you bro, and where your from too, Geeks, but are you shitten me?

I dont need to do anything to these two unit? just remove the ROM 102 and insert the Slinger card?
I dont need to do anything to the TSOP either? is that correct? I swear from everything Ive read thats been posted tells me other wise?
Can you explain alittle more please
thanks

oddthomas
07-09-2009, 09:28 PM
If you own a Slinger and you are happy with the recent improvements in both reliability and service please do me a bog favor.
If you frequent other forums do start a thread in the appropriate area and post about the Slinger, what channels it gets, how compatible it is and how well it works. It now outperforms any other commercial IKS system by a mile and yet FTA lemmings are unaware of this option. If I go to other forums and post they accuse me of pushing my shit. If you own one and do the same thing and in droves then you can get the news out. I use my income from the sale of the gadgets in my store to run and maintain this forum. Please help me keep doing so. VIP memberships stopped selling as there are no new files to be had, I need to keep selling stuff to have an income.
There is a lot of rumors about an impending N3 hack and Viewsat is just about to release a fix. People are waiting for these miracle fixes still. When they realize the convenient days of "click click watch TV" I would like them to be aware of the Slingers.

Thank you for your help.

Of course don't keep your success a secret from friends and family either.

mili


Hi Mili,Im a Visiting Administrator here but have been a member for several years, but was unable to sign in after I lost my password, but before everyone jumps in telling me hoe to get it back, the email address is long deleted. So I just re-signed up.
Matter of fact I just drovwe over 40 miles to our local electronic store and picked up several units of 220 Ohm 1/2 watt resistor, SPDT toggle switches, and 1N4742A 1-Watt Zener Diode's to VID MOD several units, and have been sitting here with (3 units) marked and ready to Mod now waiting on an answer.


I have several Dp301-013 Model Receivers myself to TEST on. and several freinds on another FTA-site (I wont name) here that are interested in the Slinger System to test out for ourselfs. Say more than (2 less than 20) units to start with. So PM me if your interested in details, I hate to PM you as I did over at CC, but never heard back from you, so signed up here once again, to get the facts right. SO just PM me mili and I will give you my email address, matter of fact you have the new email addy when I signed back up today, so its your call, if we can get a good rate we might all buy several more units at once, or over a month. Just let me kow how you want to work it, by the way Ive been around you for along time from the old sites.

Also I need an Answer

1) does a VID MOD required for a 301-013 w/married Rom102/rev1-5 yellow cards that where in the units when I turn the service off? I actually have (4) units with cards, and several more ROM 102 cards here.
thanks for the help Mili
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JT
07-09-2009, 09:41 PM
oddthomas, if the cams are married to those recievers then no vmod is needed

Good catch there gizmolite. :cool:

If the roms are unlocked, then you can get the receiver and box keys off of the roms, and you don't need to vid mod or jtag. Then you'd just program the slinger with your private information from the unlocked card and go. Obviously you can't do this with the box that has the rom241 in it since the 241 isn't crackable. (ISO programmer AND unlocker required for this method)

If your cards aren't cracked or you just don't want to mess with doing that yourself, then you will have to vid mod and program those boxes with a public tsop. (Soldering iron and jtag required for this method)

JT
07-09-2009, 09:54 PM
All receiver mods and information is in the dish and bell receiver discussion area of the forum. You should seriously consider doing the regulator mod instead of the diode mod. The regulator mod is a lot more reliable. I'm surprised mili hasn't updated that how to yet. I think you will find that modding the receiver is a lot easier and less expensive than learning how to crack those cards and buying the needed loader and ISO.

oddthomas
07-09-2009, 10:46 PM
All receiver mods and information is in the dish and bell receiver discussion area of the forum. You should seriously consider doing the regulator mod instead of the diode mod. The regulator mod is a lot more reliable. I'm surprised mili hasn't updated that how to yet. I think you will find that modding the receiver is a lot easier and less expensive than learning how to crack those cards and buying the needed loader and ISO.


Thanks alot GIZMO, and JT for the advise, will read up more on the subject, so Im glad I didnot VID MOD these boxes, but I did buy all the eguipement to do the job on 3 units, and I have one to test on that I lost the card on.
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lefty
07-10-2009, 01:59 AM
Welcome oddthomas.

I moved your post to the proper Forum. You'll get much more info here.

I reviewed my files and found the info for the regulator method of Vid Mod for 301's.

It's called Gunther's Guide. I've done the zener diode and the regulator method and each work ok.

I'll upload that guide to the VIP file section when I wake up in the morning (I can access the VIP section then) and I'll post a link in this thread.

lefty
07-10-2009, 10:54 AM
Here is the link to the file:

http://bellexpress.vu/forum/local_links.php?catid=65

mrgot2hav
07-23-2009, 06:15 PM
Great info. I was about to ask the last few questions. The guide lists a 310.13b. Do this apply to all 301.13 IRD or just the "b" version. How many version of 301 are they? Do all 301 need the mod if you use a public tsop?

lefty
07-23-2009, 07:44 PM
I'll read up in the guide when I return home (I'm on dialup here) and try to answer those Q's.

JT
07-23-2009, 08:17 PM
Great info. I was about to ask the last few questions. The guide lists a 310.13b. Do this apply to all 301.13 IRD or just the "b" version. How many version of 301 are they? Do all 301 need the mod if you use a public tsop?

That is a vid mod guide. Only the 301.13 models (of the 301's) need vid modded to fully program the tsop(s). The 301.10 does not require a vid mod.