[FreshManDTV]

Hi,

I've just finished building the Max/Mel board. I have a few question, please!

1) It's a Echostar 3700, If I used onboard VCC (not directly at the card), I get color screen flashing and nothing else. I tried external 5V and it turns on as normal. Anybody has a 3700? Where do you get your VCC for the board?

2) What hex file do you load on the atmel chip? Could you point me to where to get it, please? I had 381, 380 from m24c.

3) Do I have to do anything special before loading the hex to the chip?

That's all for now. Lots more to come but one step at a time.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by FreshManDTV

Hi,

I've just finished building the Max/Mel board. I have a few question, please!

1) It's a Echostar 3700, If I used onboard VCC (not directly at the card), I get color screen flashing and nothing else. I tried external 5V and it turns on as normal. Anybody has a 3700? Where do you get your VCC for the board?

2) What hex file do you load on the atmel chip? Could you point me to where to get it, please? I had 381, 380 from m24c.

3) Do I have to do anything special before loading the hex to the chip?

That's all for now. Lots more to come but one step at a time.

Thanks.

I have emulation running on a DP301.13 and the Max Mel. I have used the 380 and 381 flash for the atmel. Right now i'm using the 381 from mc24c. It is doing fine.

Originally Posted by Magua

I just did this last night and I have 2313_382.hex running perfectly....

What do you guys use to flash the chip, though? I used FBPRG16.exe but that's a pain as I have to reboot the PC to DOS to run it - is there a way to do this within windows?

If you have an old HU unlooper laying around find ufp16.zip, it will let you program your atmel via the serial port and unlooper while in windows. Actually quite cool. At least some of that old Dave stuff laying around is still getting _some_ use.

Originally Posted by az1324

http://www.dssftp.com/forum/upload/s...ad.php?t=15503

Actually, you should look at this file, it WILL allow you to program an atmel in a HU unloader with your hex file. Then you can remove it and put it into your Max Mel/2313 emulator. This has nothing to do with using an HU unlooper to act as an ISO reader for charlie cards, it simply lets you use it as a programmer from a windows environment so you don't have to boot from a dos disk to use Fbprg16. included are several hex files for the MAX MEL/2313 atmel. This first attachment is the zip. The second file is a screen shot of the program. This third is a shot of the setup screen, just read the docs, cause i had to adjust those delay values to get it to work properly, but once set, I have burned about a dozen atmels this way. Nothing like reusing old equipment.

Originally Posted by Magua

I have about 3 unloopers laying around.... ufp16.zip - is that the ATMEL flash for the unlooper, or the windows program? The more info you've got on this the better... what about dip switches on my unloopers? (I've got Mili's older 4-in-1 loaders...)

Thanks guest! That sounds like it could work very well!

See my last post. Just hook up your HU unlooper like you used to with the same cable to your serial port the way you used to do. Then copy all the stuff in the zip file into its own folder, then read the txt file, should be enough to get you going and you wont be booting into dos anymore to program an atmel. In the zip file are some Max Mel/2313 emu flashes to use. About swtiches, well, they are all different for different model unloopers, but you should select the switch combination you would have to use to program your atmel the old way. Mine i don't have to set any switches to program my atmel, you may have to experiment, but hey that is what it is all about .....

Originally Posted by Magua

I'm trying it tonight - I'll letchya know what results I get...

Hey, just a some hints.

1. After you hook up your HU unlooper, just for grins, run Extreme HU, and look at that message at the bottom of the screen. If the HU unlooper is connected properly then you'll know, if you see in red COM failure, Device not detected, no need to go any farther, till you get Extreme HU seeing your unlooper again. This way you have at least eliminated 1/2 the problem if something isn't working ....

2. The default timings didn't allow me to fully program an atmel. Only after adjusting them did it work, just read the text file that comes in the zip. After 3 or 4 adjustments, my atmels were being programmed with out errors. In one of my screen shots, you will see the timings i used. The machine they worked on is a P4 2.4 Ghz running XP Pro.

GOOD LUCK !!!!

Originally Posted by Magua

Whelp, here's my experiences...

First off, I did all of this with Mili's older All-in-One loaders. (The kind with 4 dip switches 1 red LED and 1 green LED.) (I used these for H card AUXing, HU unlooping & I'd flash 'em with a passthru to be used in my HU emulation setup, so they've been around the block.)

Two of my AIO loaders had the tiny 2313 chips - not removable I found out when I opened the case. I got lucky with my last one - it was the super-sized chip, same as on my Max n Mel board - removable.

I tried to connect this like was mentioned by guest above to ExtremeHU and make sure it was recognized first, and when it was, I switched the ATMELs and fired up UFP 1.6. Well, it couldn't find my ATMEL. This is because the dip switches were set for HU programming - not for flashing. So I reconfigured my switches (incidentally it's 1 and 2 down (off) and 3 and 4 up (on.) Once I did that, UFP recognized my ATMEL with no problems at all.

I never had a read problem, regardless of settings, but I sure had issues writing to it error free. I must have tried 200 combinations so far, all to no consistant positive results. So far my best settings are: 0; 15; 0; This has given me about a 20% success rate.

This worried me, but just to test it, I slapped it back in my Max n Mel and whalla - picture, sound, everything, no problem at all!

I'm pretty darn happy! It may take 10 tries to get it programmed correctly, but once it is, it's flawless! (I'm still going to play with settings to see if I can get this more consistant, but in the meantime, I'm fairly satisfied....

(My specs on my machine are:
AMD XP 3200+
1 gig PC3500 DDR
Windows XP SP1
... don't think anything else really matters...)

- Magua

EDIT: Oh, and if it matters, I wrote 2313_382.hex, not the supplied 2313_381...

Cool, maybe with some more tweaking you can get it to a reasonable success rate ... When I had errors I increased my timings, seemed like the middle number was the one that needed increasing to get more of the atmel flashed correctly, still, it is good to see you get it going .... this is what it is all about, and of course free tv is a perk

[FreshManDTV]

If you have Windows ME or 98, you probably can just click the file and program it directly from window. It works fine for me. I doubt it'll work on XP or 2K though.