[real]

Not sure if there is any truth to this. I found this at another site. I was at this flea market about a year ago and there were two dealers there. I sent a copy of this to a friend of mine who lives around the corner from this place and she is gonna check it out. I will post back when I hear from her. By the way, I have a P5 card.


Are any of the testers in the East Toronto area?
There is a satellite booth in the Pickering Flea Market on Bailey claiming to program P4's.
I don't have a P4, and when I inquired about P5's, was told that card was slightly different, and they are still experimenting with free space on the card, which seems to be greater than on the P4.
They were doing LOTS of cards, and nobody there seemed to be complaining.
Can anyone confirm this before I search for a P4 to replace my P5??

Do You Post This At Every Site You Go To????????????

[real]

Why not.........It's informatiom isn't it. I never said it was true but can you say it's not.

I just have a hard time believing that the P4 hack is available at the Pickering Flea Market. And not anywhere else. What where they charging?? I go there once in a while, maybe I will drop by and find out what they are claiming to load it with.. What site did you find this info on??

Moronic talk deleted due to lack of interest. Thread moved to the bullshit forum where it belongs.

do we have to say some magical word for them to program our cards?

I was just there on the weekend and they said nothing will be available for at least 2 -3 weeks

Its always 2 or 3 weeks later everytime you hear their is a p4 hack.

"Oh for sure we have a p4 hack!! But it does not come out for two weeks..."


Ha ha ha! More bull shit!

don't shoot the messanger meathead take a downer pill you must really miss sat TV

[quazievil]

Originally Posted by Jamr1

don't shoot the messanger meathead take a downer pill you must really miss sat TV

I don't think ACID was directing his comment at you... reads to me more like a general statement. Let's not start making things personal.

Some people are comparing the wait for the P4 Hack to the wait for the HU hack. It took about 3 months for the HU hack.

The difference is that the P4 cards have been out about 2 years and still no success. I, like everyone else, would live to see it come, but I think for the time being it is a "Pipe Dream". and if it does get cracked, you won't be sitting at home cloning cards. I think you will find it is going to be "VERY" complicated, in th start anyway.

[kelowna_pitboy]

i dont understand what OTP means. i guess i am the village idiot?

Originally Posted by caladonia

Some people are comparing the wait for the P4 Hack to the wait for the HU hack. It took about 3 months for the HU hack.
.

The HU was never hacked , it was leaked and worked a year before the H card was shut down ...

flashf is right !

So far the P4 can be programmed and will run for about 20 minutes , then it locks itself and the card is destroyed ..

Been like that for the last couple years and that is as far as anyone has ever gotten ...


It is over !

Well hell, why don't they just release the 20 minute hack then. I can get a whoooole bunch of p4's and when a good 2 hour movie comes on on ppv I'll program 6 of them and watch the movie. If I can get the cards for about a nickel apiece (wich I should be able to do if we wait much longer) I would just have 30 cents in a movie. Then I'll tape it and share with everybody.

DAMN I'M GOOD. I believe I've figured it out. LOL !!!! AH hell I'm just bored bored with no tv and had nothin better to do than type this craaaazy shit.

[ndcsucks]

"One Time Programmable....These new cards are more than 90% OTP,face it...its over..."

And you know this how????

I call bull shiet !!!!

He / she workd for DTV :-)

I agree with you..I has to be bull, I tell you what.. it is...
Look at the facts... Dave abviously clears PPV charges for current customers... This means at the least.. some areas of the P4 card is writable and it does not get destroyed like some claim here.

[vmod32]

4x4, maybe they should use the p4 unlooper in the files section. I bet that will solve all their problems. LOFL

[cejarret]

Originally Posted by flashf

hey, what part of OTP don't you guys wanna understand?...

I'll tell you "What part of OTP I don't understand! No ISO 7816 card can work over a few months that is ONLY OTP!
Ther are to many things that must be changed.
If I subscribe to Dave for the minimum package, then decide to add more packages, with an OTP ONLY card, I sh*t ot of luck. So is Dave.
There are just to many variable factors for the card to have very much OTP area on it!!
Now stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

[quazievil]

I think it's the cards safeguards that make it OTP. Once you get in, the card kills itself. It's not one time programmable for dave cause he's got the key's for the card but if you break in, it goes into lock down. Thus OTP.

I wish people would stop posting BULL
I went today to the Pickering Flea Market, no hack
GET A LIFE and stop posting stupid shit

Redwing1, First, I agree with the comments above regarding the Pickering Flea Market. It just makes sense for the writer to verify it before posting it. I feel for the guy(s) who went to check it out. Thanks for saving me a trip. Redwing1, I have a quick question. You are using free to air. Are you using a Silver Bullet Enforcer (formerly known as Blackbird)? I've read on various sites they are difficult to set up. True or false? Adding a 2nd dish on the roof is no biggie with one pointed at 110 and the other at 119. Any info you can share would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Originally Posted by redwing1

I think i'll stick to my free to air , this waiting for a hack bullshit just sucks !!
Redwing1

Redwing1, I have a dumb question about free-to-air. What about channels like HBO? Or PPV for that matter? Do you get those with a free-to-air receiver? I'm considering a Silver Bullet Enforcer and a second dish (110 and 119) to get Charlie. Also, I hear setting up a free-to-air receiver can be a pain in the (_*_). Is this T or F? Thanks.


iit

Originally Posted by redwing1

I think i'll stick to my free to air , this waiting for a hack bullshit just sucks !!
Redwing1

[r_hill]

Yup, you get HBO, PPV, the whole shebang. But no NFL Sunday Ticket as that package belongs to Dave.....you will hafta track your favourite NFL team(s) thru local/regional broadcasts.

Is it hard to set up? Not particularly, but it is a different concept from, say, using a loader and extreme HU to glitch an access card for use with the service provider's un-modified receiver.....so there are some quirks....such as rudimentary program guide (B*V) or no guide at all (Charlie).

All-in-all, I recommend it..... so far it's been very reliable. ;-)

r_hill, thanks for sharing. I can live without NFL Sunday Ticket but I used to enjoy NHL Center Ice. You probably get that with Charlie. Surprised to hear about the Interactive Program Guide. Based on your sign-in, we may live in the same town (R Hill). I don't mind the cost of Silver Bullet Enforcer (if it works) or a second dish but I don't want the aggravation of not being able to set it up.

[praetori]

Originally Posted by HDTV MAN

Do You Post This At Every Site You Go To????????????

:asshole2: :repuke: dudes an ass breath :flipa: LOL :cry:

[Caveman]

Hi!

Dave invested 18 million dollar to have a unhackable card, and it looks
like they have succeded !

Very sad !

I am not going to worry about the p4 hack, Now we have another problem coming up with nagra so what is next ???