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Determining VCC/Delay settings ?
Old 02-21-2005   #1
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Determining VCC/Delay settings ?

Good idea for this forum !! Thanx Mili/mods.
I get nothing but o03o03o03 on a looped bev rom 3 of mine(with the tape trick). Without the tape I get o00o00o00o00.
I am still a little confused about how to set up your settings in unlockrom3.xvb. I did the analyzer from the program today again and got this: VCC=1D-0710A6 glitched past OC bug, then later VCC=20,delay=0031, glitch type=05.....CCE280

In PowerSync I get VCC=1F, 06, delay=10A8, then VCC=1E, 0033, 07, read 20-23....=C60FFC

So from there how do you derive your start and limit values for the rom3unlock.xvb or for PowerSync. ?

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oh boy cimba, not this again, LOL, you can glitch into a card at various points, it isn't set in stone at one vcc and one delay, a different vcc and a different delay might do it too. or you hitting OC bugs, or OF bugs in the glitch? You need OC for the rom 3. with the powersync, I would use 20 and 15 for the start and limit and just try your standard delays it recomends
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oh boy cimba, not this again, LOL, you can glitch into a card at various points, it isn't set in stone at one vcc and one delay, a different vcc and a different delay might do it too. or you hitting OC bugs, or OF bugs in the glitch? You need OC for the rom 3. with the powersync, I would use 20 and 15 for the start and limit and just try your standard delays it recomends
Just trying to fine tune, In unlockrom3.xvb., I did the analyzer from the program. Got this: VCC=1D-0710A6 glitched past OC bug, then later VCC=20,delay=0031, glitch type=05.....CCE280.
Once you run analyzer it says to use these findings to enter values in the unlocking part of the program, which asks for VCC start and VCC limit; Delay start and Delay limit. Therefore it is implied that the values found in glitching past the OC are entered, how does 1D-** become 20 and 15 etc.? I want to understand it,that's all.

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Just trying to fine tune, In unlockrom3.xvb., I did the analyzer from the program. Got this: VCC=1D-0710A6 glitched past OC bug, then later VCC=20,delay=0031, glitch type=05.....CCE280.
Once you run analyzer it says to use these findings to enter values in the unlocking part of the program, which asks for VCC start and VCC limit; Delay start and Delay limit. Therefore it is implied that the values found in glitching past the OC are entered, how does 1D-** become 20 and 15 etc.? I want to understand it,that's all. lol !?
1D is between 15 and 20 therefore working around your glitch point. 15,16,17,18,19,1a,1b,1c,1d,1e,1f,20 well not right in the middle but close enough,
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patience cimba, service the wife or the girlfriend, or the wife and the girlfriend if you can get away with it!
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Sorry Crazy, stuff is getting to me ya know, My apologies.
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No apology necessary cimba, I know how frustrating it can get. just walk away from it for the night, tomorrow it might fall right open or come right unlooped for ya, I can't tell you how many times that has happenned to me.
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Well thats the least of it really, its not the card, its my dad passing and all the other shit that has just got me on the edge right now, thanx man.

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so sorry for your loss cimba

crazy is right about walking away and letting it find that sweet spot
i about gave up trying to unlock with an old vector h card unlooper i modded
then i fell asleep with it running and when i woke up i was thrilled to see my first card unlocked and then i knew the key was patience_i have unlocked all 8 cards i had.
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Ah but this is a badly looped rom 3, like I said its actually a diversion from other stuff. Interesting experimentation going on today, keeps my mind at least somewhat at a different level.
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