[Chief]

I just put this up over at MCS. To save time and typing, I'll just Cut and Paste it here. I hope this eases some of the rampant fears and rumors that have been swirling around all day long.

My brother in law who lives in the northeastern US and is one of the subjects of this purported filing asked me to contact an attorney, anonymously, and detail what we know so far. And that's just what I have done. I've been in contact with a close friend of mine, who was a former prosecutor for one of the largest counties in the United States for 10 years, is now in private practice, and who has defended numerous individual DTV AND Echostar lawsuits. He knows "Satlaw" backwards and forwards.

Not being a legal expert, I cannot say with authority what means are available to attorneys that the public doesn't have access to. Legal experts on these forums would know more about this than I would. I can tell you this...this attorney contacted the court directly, and also spent nearly an hour using every tool at his disposal to determine if such a case exists.

There is absolutely nothing. As of March 2, 2005, according to his findings, Echostar Communications Corporation has filed NOTHING in ANY court in reference to the defendents mentioned in this document.

There is NO such case pending in the United States District Court, Miami - according to this attorney's research. This was also verified by an actual conversation with someone at that court. The case number doesn't match any case in any court in the land. Supposedly this was filed Feb 25, in this court. Again, according to his research, this is false.

There IS a pending lawsuit against a Donald ONeil - totally unrelated to Echostar, and of course, could be one of thousands of Donald ONeil's. This isn't Magician's name in the first place. I doubt seriously if anyone in the testing community knows the true identity of the Magician, even if they've met him face to face. He's as reclusive as they get.

Take that information for what it's worth. While I suppose it's possible that any and all information pertaining to such a case could be totally sealed where NO one has access, bear this in mind...SOMEBODY came up with it. It showed up at MCS yesterday evening, didn't it? Who originated it ? MCS members are always asking about sourcecode - who's the source of this ?????

I'll proffer an opinion, for what it's worth - I'm calling BULLSHIT.

There you have it....

[playme1979]

sorry for copying and pasting the letter over here didnt mean to stir the pot just wanted clarification and youve clarified as well as anyone didnt mean to start any bs

[mili]

It is obvious what is going on, when DOS attacks are not an option any more then lies and slander is. I am actually glad that they resorted to these desperate methods, you can see these people for whome they really are. Just remember you cannot fling shit around and stay smelling like roses.

mili

well siad mili. I call bullshit also.

[Dr Zapola]

I know I feel better. Thanx Chief.
ZAPOLA

[realfire]

this blows royce even ran with the story, never thought I would see it

[chikita]

man thanks for the info, had me worried about getting a letter from charly, on that same note mili, is our private info delited from your data base, like pass purchases ? if not can they be delited ??

[bintryin123]

Hopefully this will put the fire out and there won't be post after post of rants full of pure speculation. I'd much rather read a thread like this. Thanks for the info guys. It's not like you owed it to anyone, but I think now that things are out in the open, it will be better for everyone.

[wasup]

Originally Posted by chikita

man thanks for the info, had me worried about getting a letter from charly, on that same note mili, is our private info delited from your data base, like pass purchases ? if not can they be delited ??

Yes, if I remember correctly credit card information is deleted after 2 or 3 months, and email addresses for 1 or 2 years?
Im using proxify now for a few weeks. I bought MCs and JTAGS a year ago. I don't use a proxy to check my email however. Hmmm

[Chief]

Product purchase records are discarded after the warranty period expires. Mili and I discussed this the other night..he has NO purchase records on ANYONE prior to January, 2005.

And let me debunk another popular theory that's been spread around. Credit Card information is kept at PayZip - who is located in Singapore. I just read a letter they sent to Mili in response to the recent attacks and this frivolous court document. From PayZip :

"Thank you for your recent letter and update. We're quite aware that DSS sites are subject to frequent attacks. We at PayZip do NOT entertain the release of ANY personal information to anyone outside the jurisdiction of Singapore".

PLEASE don't fall prey to all the doomsday shit that you've been told - if you don't know, ASK. Mili has no reason to lie to you about such matters - those who seek to destroy him have every reason in the world. Think about it.

[pasor]

I was very concerned about Mili, now i feel much better.

[Chief]

Please refer to this thread.

http://www.dssftp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41303

[Teppy1954]

This episode saddens me. The DDOS attack was unwarranted and unnecessary. This particular brand of feces is lower than low. Let us hope the individual (s) responsible for this will just go away and fester somewhere else.

These people are nothing more than petulant children.

[Horvik]

Thanks fo rthe heads up...time to breathe easier hwile keeping ones eyes open...yes?
"Killer Tester"!!!!

[woods]

dude you really pulled this out of the archives. last post was 3/4/2005

[fubr]

he has slow connection

[MarvinGardens]

I believe that Charlie is a kinder and gentler sat provider than Dave when it comes to lowly end users. After all, could anyone imagine Dave broadcasting a pirate channel like Charlie does?

Originally Posted by fubr

he has slow connection

Darn dial up...................LOL...