I have been reading all over the place that Nagra2 has been hacked, and it's all a card based sharing system.

Time to buy a dreambox?????

[bols2dawaLL]

Hacked and sharing a sub aren't quite the same thing

[beartrack]

Originally Posted by Muppet

I have been reading all over the place that Nagra2 has been hacked, and it's all a card based sharing system.

Time to buy a dreambox?????

So how does the dreambox come into play?

[gjones]

Card shareing is a network with a server to distribute mutiple connection
to possibly one or more cards. The Dreambox has an ethernet connection
and can be networked on the internet and the IP address is added to the
card shareing server, if you (pay). There has to be a Valid subscriber in order
for this to work. I do not think anyone paying the bill will allow PPV.

[smilingjack]

I don't think it would last long either, they will all wind up getting busted and since the provider knows who you are you will get busted too.

alot of talk about card sharing

But lets not forget the newest of reciever from charlie are card less they have built in processors in them

so how far would card sharing go?

So Is It Hacked Or Not

[smilingjack]

no

any updates on a hack????????????????????????????????????

[Crazy1_79]

no

[seaboard18]

Originally Posted by fishman

any updates on a hack????????????????????????????????????

N2 will not be hacked at least for two years or maybe never. If you like Dish network, then you should subscribe once the N2 swap is complete.


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[Cid6.7]

N2 will not be hacked at least for two years or maybe never

Thats funny as hell when people say shit like this...No intentions of a flame @ all but How the F*ck do you know..What does 2 years have to do with it...

Originally Posted by seaboard18

N2 will not be hacked at least for two years or maybe never. If you like Dish network, then you should subscribe once the N2 swap is complete.


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WRONG !

It's done and working.

[rykrishell]

Originally Posted by Muppet

WRONG !

It's done and working.

Muppet talk is cheap prove it

[smilingjack]

Send details to mili or me by PM if it is true, we will be interested in getting it for our members and / or becoming a dealer / broker for the author.

[cman]

I smell BS!!

[Littlebear151]

no one knows how long it will be before charlie's N2 will be hacked.. unless someone has already done it.. to date I don't think it has happen..

BTW: Card, network, sub, sharing is not a hack.. on top of that if you network share
you will get caught.. this would only work in the deepest of under ground systems
if discovered all would be busted..

I do believe N2 will be cracked.. when.. who knows..I have heard that some FTA programers got video.. I don't believe it.. untill I see it..

Guys like Magician have the most to gain.. people that have connections to people that can produce another form of cam.. thats where the money is.. FTA or another
magic card .. is going to be where developers will want to invest.. then it will take
some time for it to trickle down to card programming..

no one will give this $07 info. for free.. so don't hold your breath.. its time to sub
if your not already.. somewhere down the road we will see a fix that does work..
how soon is like guessing how many penneys are in a five gallon bucket..

2 years? I don't think it will be that long..if it is it might never happen.. markets will dry up.. interest will fade..If the last stages of this stream are cracked a new magic card or other cam could be in production in weeks..in my opinion the magic card would only need a new chip with more space.. I'm sure they have already looked and know what it would take if they decript video..

I have also heard people say "they are just waiting for the complete card swap"
this is horse shit.. at this point there is no advanage in waiting.. every person on this site would buy what ever it takes to open the stream if it were for sale..

The truth is as we have got smarter and have cracked these cards.. the providers have also learned what the weakness of the smart cards are.. large sums of money have been spent to protect their investment..so a simple glitch fault is useless..

good luck
LB

[Crazy1_79]

Very good reply littlebear, however the nagra 2 cards will take a glitch, stick one in a modified loader loader once and you will get 6f responses, it will reset out instead of giving you floor glitches represented as FF so the nagra 2 card is not as bulletproof as the p4 so I am with you, they probally will hack it. It's just a matter of when. As far as any further info on the nag 2 taking a glitch, I don't know, that was just a simple test I did with a rom 101 and a rom 102 card in my loader to see if it would respond to a glitch attempt, I know it would do nothing else to it, I was just curious.

[Pyotr]

Originally Posted by Crazy1_79

Very good reply littlebear, however the nagra 2 cards will take a glitch, stick one in a modified loader loader once and you will get 6f responses, it will reset out instead of giving you floor glitches represented as FF so the nagra 2 card is not as bulletproof as the p4 so I am with you, they probally will hack it. It's just a matter of when. As far as any further info on the nag 2 taking a glitch, I don't know, that was just a simple test I did with a rom 101 and a rom 102 card in my loader to see if it would respond to a glitch attempt, I know it would do nothing else to it, I was just curious.

You know,it's funny that soon after DAVE switched and people began talking on the boards about succesfully glitching DISH ROM's, they were getting hammered,called liars,idiots and morons. Now look where we are. Gotta think ouside the box.

[Littlebear151]

Yes its true we have glitched a rom card.. but I must point out that the project started out to unloop rom3 cards.. this never happen.. catching a simple bug to unlock a card is a far cry from inducing a glitch inserting some code and causing a dump..on top of that it took hours to even catch a bug instead of seconds to induce a fault..I'm not say it can't be done..I also agree this isn't a P4.. our changes are much better..

As I have stated I think it can be done..but its going to take some smart people with some good equipment.. or someone from Dish that wants to spill the beans..

One other thing.. the glitch that was used to unlock card was donated to the project by one of the greats of this hobby as far as I know he has retreated back into his world and is not working on the N2 project..I'm not talking about the guy who finished the unlocking project.. he also has proven to be a very very good coder but like you said its going to take some new ideas and thinking outside the box to crack this nut..my fingers are crossed

LB

Originally Posted by Pyotr

You know,it's funny that soon after DAVE switched and people began talking on the boards about succesfully glitching DISH ROM's, they were getting hammered,called liars,idiots and morons. Now look where we are. Gotta think ouside the box.

dish was hacked long before the p4 became active...we all actually had a choice back then...not to mention bev....oh yeah, the good ole days.

[Budreaux]

Originally Posted by NICKMARC3

dish was hacked long before the p4 became active...we all actually had a choice back then...not to mention bev....oh yeah, the good ole days.

True, but the Dish testers had no means of unlocking their own cards, they had to send them out to be unlocked. After the P3s went down and Dave testers migrated over, it became apparent that something had to change. We weren;t use to having someone else rework our cards. So, the talents that focused on Dave were now focused on Dish and it was soon after this that the impoosible was done. A modified unlooper that worked for your ROM cards. What folks use to may good money for was now being done in their own homes. The unlocking business soon dried up and it was all freeware again.

Any One Have Any Updates On Any Hack News

To the extreme, there will always be C band !! LOL!

[arms]

Let me ask this since I am very new to this. If I sub and get a receiver for all my room. Could I take one of the receivers to my friends house and use it there and so frth? Thanks ARMS

Originally Posted by arms

Let me ask this since I am very new to this. If I sub and get a receiver for all my room. Could I take one of the receivers to my friends house and use it there and so frth? Thanks ARMS

Yes, as long as he has the correct dish aimed correctly.

--wes

Is There Any New News On A Hack For Nagra 2

[JT]

Originally Posted by fishman

Is There Any New News On A Hack For Nagra 2

At this time, not that I know of. Sorry fishman. Hopefully something will come up before we're all SOL.

What happened to the post that said a well known member had posted a dump for the Nagra2 but would not say who or where? It was here yesterday!!!

[XP4]

Originally Posted by arms

Let me ask this since I am very new to this. If I sub and get a receiver for all my room. Could I take one of the receivers to my friends house and use it there and so frth? Thanks ARMS

Originally Posted by wes

Yes, as long as he has the correct dish aimed correctly.

--wes

arms -

I agree with wes, but also in case you didn't know, you do not want to plug the receiver(s) phone port into a phone jack.

Just my 2 cents.

XP4