just posted on my dealers website

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The nagra 2 card is comprimised and running wide open. This is not a rumour and is 100% comfirmed. It started here in Ontario during the last week or so. It is for rom 101 cards only, with 102 to come in the next couple weeks. It will work on all excisting IRD's except for the 301.010. This is very good news for everyone including FTA IRD's, as fta's run on the image of a compressed card. There will be a future after all.

Now Hear This:
It is not ready for sale yet
I do not have it
it is only for Charlie (no Bev yet)
it is not my work, this is news only
It is not a rumour

Please don't bombard me with calls and emails, I will post more as things develop. It will take time but it is done.

More to come.

this guy wrote code for DTV for years, even was charged but managed to beat the wrap. He will not even talk bev with you because of the laws here, but when it comes to dish and dtv, this guy is on the ball

I would let this guy babysit my kids. He knows his shit

Hey littlelarryjr... you know you just opened the lid to pandora's box a little more don't you?

Well I heard this a couple weeks ago that a hack was out for the 101s from ontario.They won't give you the program. They will program the card for,I think, 250,don't know if there is extra cost to reprogram if it goes down.

[ronski]

Great news if true, IF ! Model 301.010's are very popular ! Why won't it work on them? What about the model 301.013's ? There is not that much of a difference between the two.

I find it hard to believe it is restricted to a particular receiver-s. They have not had a receiver swap out and usually any of the receivers will work with any upgrades,its just the cards are different.

oops, I meant 301.013 sorry

heres a hint.

for anyone that knows dish and bell, a 301.010 will work on dish or bev, but a 301.013 will only work on dish. I have never seen a 301.013 working on bell. I dont know why, but I cant get a .013 working on bell. just like bell has no 101's. so with that being said, waite for the 102 fix and then we should be able to use a 102 in a .013.

Originally Posted by tbelisle

Hey littlelarryjr... you know you just opened the lid to pandora's box a little more don't you?

Pandora can bite me. My point to this is simple. I am not a 1 post wonder, I am not selling anything, I just want people to know (both believers and non) that it's here so hold on!

Don't you just love it when you post something and people try to put you down for giving updated info or trying to help. If people would just digest the info or if they can "TEST" it for themselfs.Its amazing.

[citrus13]

hey everyone... just read some of littlelarryjr's posts....
So far, of all claiming.... i'd believe him......
He obviously knows his stuff!!
I don't know him personally, but let's give it some time and see how it plays out...

Here's hoping.....

[Littlebear151]

Larry,
You have been a part of this community for a long time.. I have read hundreds of your post.. you are not someone that I believe would spread rumors that were not true.. for that reason, I do believe you.. and I take it you have seen this with your own eyes.. if this is true.. do you have any idea how the hack is going to be marketed.. as "software", "software & hardware" or will it be a cam device.. I know that all these things will come to pass once it gets into more peoples hands
but I'm just wondering in what form we will see it first..not to much needs to be told here.. but privately we need to get some dealers connected..
LB

can't be too open yet, just giving everyone a heads up so the non believers can SHUT THE FUCK UP! prove this, prove that. basically if someone has something than great, tell us where to get it or tell us more about it. No more of this send this here or mail the card there. I am not a coder, never claimed to be. I just know lots of people who know lots of people. When I find out more I will post here first. you can count on that.

Originally Posted by Littlebear151

but privately we need to get some dealers connected..
LB

the guy wants 100,000 USD for the software. to rich for me

[monkeyluv]

Hey there,

Any of the mods here know anything about this? there has been a ton of buzz lately about the 101's, i don't flame and am really interested to see it anything comes of this.

Originally Posted by monkeyluv

Hey there,

Any of the mods here know anything about this? there has been a ton of buzz lately about the 101's, i don't flame and am really interested to see it anything comes of this.

every mod here is gunna say bullshit, and I expect big apologies in the not to distand future

[citrus13]

hey littlelarryjr.....
what, if you could tell me, or pm me, is the dealers website??

[monkeyluv]

Not necessarily... it's obvious that there is something coming out with the amount of chatter on the web regarding this, the confirmation that the 101's have and can be compromised in one way or another definitely gives merit to your claim. Can't wait to see.

Originally Posted by littlelarryjr

Pandora can bite me. My point to this is simple. I am not a 1 post wonder, I am not selling anything, I just want people to know (both believers and non) that it's here so hold on!

Agreed, but I ain't no 1 post wonder either and I just think we should hold off before getting the newbies all hot and bothered. Catch my drift?

BTW... I too am in the area!

Originally Posted by rurso

Don't you just love it when you post something and people try to put you down for giving updated info or trying to help. If people would just digest the info or if they can "TEST" it for themselfs.Its amazing.

If you were refering to me.... kiss my ass! If not, disregard that last statement.

[fetajr]

I Believe,
its just a matter of time and $$ until something comes out, it always has been that way... just can't wait until a stable solution comes out for DTV

Originally Posted by tbelisle

If you were refering to me.... kiss my ass! If not, disregard that last statement.

LMFAO

I got your point in the post above too

[Darkbob]

> you are not someone that I believe would spread rumors that were not true

Ahhh... dude... what's the name of this forum? He's allowed to post news of rumors in this forum. And how is he to know if the rumors are true or not? He just posted what his dealer posted. The dealer could be full of sh*t. It's still ok to post what he saw.

Now if he had something to sell or was making up lies... well that's another story. But if you see something out there and it's from a source you trust, why not post it here? We are all grown-up's (mostly) and we can make up our own minds as to the validity, right?

--DB

[Markman]

i am sure something is out their or will be out their soon enough.... with this much money on the table.. its not hard to find investors to reverse engineer the card.. and open up the source.

the only reason DTV was not touched is because most people moved to Dish .. but if dish goes .. the market is available for whoever will produce the first workable hack.

and that's a huge market.. both the US market and the Canadian markets .. the Canadian market doesn't have much choice

for some channels Canadians have no legal way to watch them.

one way or the other .. the market always gets what it wants.

now if dish got smart and opened a Canadian branch and provided all the channels that are available in the US, then this game would be over.

CRTC would never allow DTV to "open a Canadian branch"

For fuck's sake, we just started getting Foxnews and it is only on a trial basis at that!

Originally Posted by tbelisle

If you were refering to me.... kiss my ass! If not, disregard that last statement.

Wasn't referring to anyone in particular,just a general statement.

[Markman]

$$$ speaks.. i am sure DTV can open anything it wants with the right political contributions to the next winning political party.

well guys.....l hate to say this but being a naysayer for a long time, l have today 22nd July, 2005 witnessed a DISH 301 receiver with a rom 101 card running WIDE-OPEN!!! this is at a guys place who has been a hacker for all his life and has always told me ........"patience". today was it.
he told me he was going to release it simultaneously with other dealers within a months time. just the way l have been told......no bullshit. barring a tsunami hitting the shores of lake ontario, we can expect this to happen soon. BEV will have to wait 3 months l'm told. no pricing as yet.
regards
TC

I just find it perticularly amusing that MOST peeps claiming to have seen it are 1 or 2 post wonders!
Why even jump in on the band wagon with a spectacular 2 posts behind your belt?

No disrespect, but most peeps saying they seen it are only here for bragging rights! I find it most entertaining that most big players / actual hacker doing some work to crack this bitch are keeping their mouth shut while the newbs have all seen it!

Maybee it has something to do with the fact that the key players have more brains than the average free tv'er seeking glory from pure strangers!

RANT OVER!

[monkeyluv]

Even if he did see hit he's motivated to tell people because he's a) a dealer from another site b) a dealer in TO or c) he just sells tons of cards on ebay and wants to sell more... it's all money driven. I do believe that the hacks here though, there has been a lot of talk of the 101's and dish has been doing some weird emc's (if that's what you call it) of late.

[Littlebear151]

I guess in the next few weeks we will seen just what the truth is.. It has been reported that the leak
was not suppose to happen.. that the people that develop the "Clone" hack was going to release it to site owners
as soon as all the bugs had been worked out.. but someone on the team couldn't resist putting it on a few cards and it got leaked.. true.. who the hell knows..the best thing that can happen is for everyone to sit tight let all the parties that are part of this..work out a way to get what they need "paid" then we will seen some kind of official release buy people like Milli if this thing is for real..We know at the end of the P3 that even site owners were being scammed.. time will root out the truth..
like one of the posted said this is the "utter bullshit forum" any one that has the real thing will be getting in touch with Milli and other site owners if they plan on getting paid..

I don't really understand why some members seem angry at this point no one has done anything to anyone.. no one is asking for money..If this is all a lie it will become clear very soon.. If its real, site owners will soon be contacted and will confirm that its real..
will we feel the joy.. time will tell

LB

[monkeyluv]

Very well put bear, i agree totally, as soon as something of any value gets spoken by someone who is active on a site everyone gets their panties in a knot, just give it a week or even a couple of days and wait and see... and talk to you dealers, see if there is word on the street too.

M