ECM in progress

**mili** · 05-19-2006

News in 10 mins.

mili

**mili** · 05-19-2006

And I quote.

"These blackouts are due to the session key stuff they are playing with.I guess they don't want to fuck their customers, so they are doing it every couple of hours on select receivers like the 2700. Once they are sure subs won't be affected, everyone else is going down, rest assured.
Heres how:

1. They will stop sending video packets to the old firmware, thereby forcing everyone to upgrade to the new firmware.
2. The new firmwares will negotiate the session key using 768 bit RSA instead of 512 bit RSA. In layman's term, calculating the session key will become computationally more intensive.
3. In older firmware, the session key was only negotiated at bootup and stayed static. It seems they will now attempt to negotiate a new session key more often. It is even possible they will do it every 15 seconds for each new video packet. Kind of like the old CMD 02 for Nagra 1.

In layman's terms: They will be "speeding up" the datastream. Not literally speeding it up, but requiring the CAM to do more computations, which is equivalent to speeding things up.

The end result will be that the hacks that can't keep up will become history. Logs will be provided tonight"

So. Go call me a fear monger now.

mili

**fubr** · 05-19-2006

DONT NOT FILL THIS THREAD WITH YOUR QUESTIONS. Start a new one or join in one already in progress!!!!!!!!!
This one will be watched. only post on topic and if you know what you are saying.

**Crazy1_79** · 05-19-2006

it's about damn time, I must admit I'm nervously excited!! digital locks on and locked,.....check, Rom 102 programmed and in the stream,.......check. allright, I think i'm ready.

**mili** · 05-19-2006

It seems all non plastic hacks are affected, would be nice to know how FTA is doing.

mili

**fubr** · 05-19-2006

yes I wished I had my 2700 hooked up so I can compare tsops and what not.

wingster · 05-19-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by mili

It seems all non plastic hacks are affected, would be nice to know how FTA is doing.
mili

FTA is working ok. Autoroll picked up the new keys today and all is good. Viewsat Platinum.

**mili** · 05-19-2006

Whatever it was they have pulled it. Only thing spooling in the stream right now are the latest keys. Stay tuned.

mili

**Crazy1_79** · 05-19-2006

damn it charlie, WTF, I'm tired of watching TV. TAke me, take me damn you!!! I'm about to give you my cam id, my boxkeys, ird number and SK number just so I can have something to do!!! hehe, j/k, I have a friend with several pansats, I will give him a call and post back.

**fubr** · 05-19-2006

sometimes I wonder if they have the wrong Indians working for them?
Dont know if it is job security or a bunch of fat heads.

badger6 · 05-19-2006

Did the rom10 autoroll, roll the keys or crash and burn too????

**fubr** · 05-19-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by badger6

Did the rom10 autoroll, roll the keys or crash and burn too????

http://www.dssftp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60942

is ok!

rubencito · 05-19-2006

this one is working just fine no problems detected so far. I am going to program my atmega with new keys now and is it working? Yes it is. I also had for the first time used my 101 with no rsa mod and it auto rolled the keys no problem.

studmonkey76 · 05-19-2006

rom102 with blocker up and running fine here... no problems, not one single black channel

badger6 · 05-19-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by fubr

http://www.dssftp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60942

is ok!

sorry sir, must have missed that thread. Anyhow, at least it passed that test.

white zombie · 05-19-2006

So what now? You mean I gotta learn to READ again!! And then read and read and read and read and read!!! And then test and test and test and test!!! And then spend and spend and spend on new stuff!!! OMG!!!!, now I have a life again!!!

**fubr** · 05-19-2006

lol means nothing yet. Damn sure broke up the boredom as of late.

still early on could be weeks before they try to do anything else.

Chip Douglas · 05-19-2006

As long as they wait till after May 27th to try something Im happy.

pitbullracin · 05-19-2006

Running 10to102 autoroll no rsa mod 3900 p3.50 no problems now but earlier today the receiver turned off and restarted. It went through all the connections setups and was working fine. The box has never just restarted like it did though.

1one · 05-19-2006

Can anyone fiqure why its all Firmware before keychange are all we all waiting for someone else to see what they are doing? Does anyone want to be FIRST?

05-19-2006

Software Version: X834CSCD-F

Is this the latest? If not what is the latest version, and how can I update my receiver? What equipment I need and software? what files should I be looking for?

Regards,

1one · 05-19-2006

cAN WE DO ANYTHING IN PUBLIC HERE ?

seaboard18 · 05-19-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitbullracin

Running 10to102 autoroll no rsa mod 3900 p3.50 no problems now but earlier today the receiver turned off and restarted. It went through all the connections setups and was working fine. The box has never just restarted like it did though.

Thanks for confirming this. Your problem should have been around 12:30 P.M. Eastern time. Do you recall if your screen turned green before the re-boot?

Stocko · 05-19-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1one

cAN WE DO ANYTHING IN PUBLIC HERE ?

Sure, strap on your glasses & don't look directly at the blast.

1one · 05-19-2006

Understood stocko. Just thought we might think for ourselfs.

**Crow 492** · 05-19-2006

Just to clear it up FTA is OK like wingster said autoroll good. Chanells are still there.

Keeping an eye out.

1one · 05-19-2006

wrong night or wrong site here. Did not know everyone jumpted ship. All have seen that I was here....... So let me make it perfectly clear, Saw some shit thatmight make it clear....... so I'll just keep it near to dear.

hacker · 05-19-2006

I have 2 301-10 , 510, and 3900 all using rom 102 with v23 blocker all up and running no problems. They are all updated to latest version and i selected ask before downloading on system upgrades. not sure if that will help stop ecm but worth a try.

Stocko · 05-19-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1one

Understood stocko. Just thought we might think for ourselfs.

Oh, for sure we want to think for ourselves. I take Mili's post (top of thread) to mean keep your firmware updated and put your money on the horse that can keep up with the 768 bit RSA.

I think my rig is on life support just based on the old firmware, but other than a simple key change it's been nothing but tv so far. I'll see whom is standing after the battle and re-rig accordingly.

RoofleChicken · 05-19-2006

Bell reception on FTA may be under some type of attack. Currently I've found 7 channels that are black screened and are also out on IRD's as well. These channels are up on subs.

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05-19-2006	#1
mili Status: Madministrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Aboveground Posts: 4,721	ECM in progress News in 10 mins. mili __________________ Slinger IKS Kit PRICE: ONLY $219!!! SUPPORTS BELL AND DISH ON NAGRA 3 STREAM CLICK HERE FOR THE SLINGER FAQ CLICK HERE FOR THE SLINGERS' INSTRUCTIONS CLICK HERE FOR VIP DOWNLOADS CLICK HERE FOR RECEIVER MODIFICATION SERVICES

05-19-2006	#2
mili Status: Madministrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Aboveground Posts: 4,721	And I quote. "These blackouts are due to the session key stuff they are playing with.I guess they don't want to fuck their customers, so they are doing it every couple of hours on select receivers like the 2700. Once they are sure subs won't be affected, everyone else is going down, rest assured. Heres how: 1. They will stop sending video packets to the old firmware, thereby forcing everyone to upgrade to the new firmware. 2. The new firmwares will negotiate the session key using 768 bit RSA instead of 512 bit RSA. In layman's term, calculating the session key will become computationally more intensive. 3. In older firmware, the session key was only negotiated at bootup and stayed static. It seems they will now attempt to negotiate a new session key more often. It is even possible they will do it every 15 seconds for each new video packet. Kind of like the old CMD 02 for Nagra 1. In layman's terms: They will be "speeding up" the datastream. Not literally speeding it up, but requiring the CAM to do more computations, which is equivalent to speeding things up. The end result will be that the hacks that can't keep up will become history. Logs will be provided tonight" So. Go call me a fear monger now. mili __________________ Slinger IKS Kit PRICE: ONLY $219!!! SUPPORTS BELL AND DISH ON NAGRA 3 STREAM CLICK HERE FOR THE SLINGER FAQ CLICK HERE FOR THE SLINGERS' INSTRUCTIONS CLICK HERE FOR VIP DOWNLOADS CLICK HERE FOR RECEIVER MODIFICATION SERVICES

05-19-2006	#3
fubr Status: Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,903	And Boom Goes the Dynomite! DONT NOT FILL THIS THREAD WITH YOUR QUESTIONS. Start a new one or join in one already in progress!!!!!!!!! This one will be watched. only post on topic and if you know what you are saying. __________________ Code: 11001011.10101001.10100100.00111110 --> CLICK HERE <--- FILES PAGE---> CLICK HERE <---CHECK IT OUT!!!! ---> CLICK HERE <--- Card Carrying Member !!! Search Here How To Guides IRD FIRMWARE REVISONS>>> go to bottom click link for tsop firmware LATEST NEWS AND DEVELOPMENTS ____________________________ HOOWKD ON PONICS WEALLY WURKED FO ME Last edited by fubr; 05-19-2006 at 01:54 AM..

05-19-2006	#4
Crazy1_79 Status: Cardkilla' Join Date: May 2004 Location: anything but 0000001 Posts: 5,519	it's about damn time, I must admit I'm nervously excited!! digital locks on and locked,.....check, Rom 102 programmed and in the stream,.......check. allright, I think i'm ready. __________________ Free TV is expensive!!!!! 6B697373206D7920617373206563686F73746172 PLEASE DO NOT PM WITH ME QUESTIONS, ASK IN THE FORUM SO OTHER CAN LEARN AND HELP TOO.

05-19-2006	#11
badger6 Status: Banana Papa Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Inside your wife Posts: 732	Did the rom10 autoroll, roll the keys or crash and burn too????

05-19-2006	#13
rubencito Status: Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 29	xtc 5080 pvr this one is working just fine no problems detected so far. I am going to program my atmega with new keys now and is it working? Yes it is. I also had for the first time used my 101 with no rsa mod and it auto rolled the keys no problem. Last edited by rubencito; 05-19-2006 at 03:21 AM..

05-19-2006	#14
studmonkey76 Status: Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 437	rom102 with blocker up and running fine here... no problems, not one single black channel

05-19-2006	#16
white zombie Status: Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: bahamas Posts: 99	So what now? You mean I gotta learn to READ again!! And then read and read and read and read and read!!! And then test and test and test and test!!! And then spend and spend and spend on new stuff!!! OMG!!!!, now I have a life again!!!

05-19-2006	#18
Chip Douglas Status: Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 184	As long as they wait till after May 27th to try something Im happy. __________________ What you have just done is illegal and in this state, if convicted you could receive a fine of up to five thousand dollars or spend six months in a correctional facilulululity.

05-19-2006	#19
pitbullracin Status: Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WELCOME TO THE PIT Posts: 114	Running 10to102 autoroll no rsa mod 3900 p3.50 no problems now but earlier today the receiver turned off and restarted. It went through all the connections setups and was working fine. The box has never just restarted like it did though.

05-19-2006	#20
1one Status: Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 336	Can anyone fiqure why its all Firmware before keychange are all we all waiting for someone else to see what they are doing? Does anyone want to be FIRST?

05-19-2006	#21
dconstan Status: Guest Posts: n/a	What Firmware Software Version: X834CSCD-F Is this the latest? If not what is the latest version, and how can I update my receiver? What equipment I need and software? what files should I be looking for? Regards,

05-19-2006	#26
Crow 492 Status: Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,790	Just to clear it up FTA is OK like wingster said autoroll good. Chanells are still there. Keeping an eye out.

05-19-2006	#28
hacker Status: Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 676	I have 2 301-10 , 510, and 3900 all using rom 102 with v23 blocker all up and running no problems. They are all updated to latest version and i selected ask before downloading on system upgrades. not sure if that will help stop ecm but worth a try.

05-19-2006	#30
RoofleChicken Status: Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 155	Bell reception on FTA may be under some type of attack. Currently I've found 7 channels that are black screened and are also out on IRD's as well. These channels are up on subs.

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