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Old 06-22-2006   #1
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Talking Who's behind the products we use and who is 'magician'

I have some pretty strong suspicions as to who wrote this but I'll never know for sure. This is a C/P from a one post wonder on another site. This guy clearly knows way too much to be a newbie. So here it is just as posted by the original author.

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THE HACKS, the HACKERS and the FACTS - A Chronology of Events

1. Nagra 1 Hack - compromised by NDS in a hush-hush laboratory in Israel. Keys released to underground hacking site. Private plastic hacks become a reality.

2. AVR2 - The first really reliable board hack for Nagra 1. It was financed by Ron McDonald. The brains behind it was his son-in-law. They were based in Paradise Island, originally from Burlington, ON. They got started back in the C-band days.There is an interesting article about this group if look for it on Google.

3. AVR3 - With the introduction of MECM processing, the AVR2 was replaced with the AVR3 "wedge" hack. Stuntguy wrote the code and it was for the most part freeware. This was the first "widespread" cardless hack. It was even banned in Canada because of RF
interference.

4. Atmega 128 - Enter MTL (Montreal) group. With the AVR3 no longer able to support cardless operation (due to MECM control word processing), a business man (Christian) out of Quebec financed the developement of the Atmega 128. OMega EFA was the original designer; x-15 was the coder. This card became the standard for testing among pirates and was widely distributed by dealers.

5. DSSRevolution - Christian decides to make another million; x-15 supplies the code; Christian screws x-15 and starts cloning. x-15 walks away and the project dies.

6. Magic Card - Two coders were actually behind this one. The "original" Magician was McDonald's son-in-law. There was initially no interest for this product. Enter Christian and MTL group. Having just screwed x-15, Christian's cash cow was out of milk. Christian agreed to fund this project. It was only a matter of time before Christian cloned this card too. Then the clone wars started. The "second" Magician who succeeding in cloning the card was Dave2 working quietly behind the scenes for Christian's MTL group. The "original" Magician abandoned Christian and teamed up with an offshore dealer in the Bahamas and introduced Magic 2. Christian even succeeded in screwing the cloner (i.e. Dave2) and the Magic card eventually died with the demise of Nagra 1. Although it wasn't the most popular card by far, the clone wars, DOS attacks, fake lawsuits, software hacks, biker stories and all the rest of it was a riot. Christian managed to make his third million during all the chaos.

7. DSSNeo - This card died before it was born. It was introduced towards the tail end of Nagra 1. It was not well financed. The coder was Trinity from CC.

8. Nagra 2 Hack - The MTL group financed the first successful attack on the 101 series cards in Canada. They even made a video boasting about their accomplishments and quietly circulated it among dealers in the summer of 2005. Christian was guaranteed a virtually monopoly on card programming and was charging $500 to program cards for Quebec and southern Ontario dealers. I think he got up to $5 million before a member of his group leaked the dumping techniques being used.

9. Public Nagra 2 Hack - Widespread dumps of the 101 card started to appear around September 2005 thanks to the leak.

10. Syndrome - An small dealer Dish Monkey in Ontario financed this project but sales were disappointing. A coder from CC was behind it. The project died after the manufacturer got busted, but it never really got off to a good start although the cards worked very well.

11. AVR-X - This was a unique idea. It got around cloning and firmware modding by latching onto the IRD JTAG port. Only someone who knows the JTAG port like the back of his hand could have pulled it off. Yep, Dave2 (of JKEYS fame), the "second" Magician was behind it. Christian didn't make a cent off it! The early cards were plagued by manufacturing and coding problems and finally tDave2 packed up his bags and disappeared.

12. Since Christian had burned every coder who had worked for him, he was on his own now. He turned to FTA instead. With controlling interests in Ariza, Viewsat and Coolsat, he was importing about 10,000 FTA units into Montreal every month. I think he is up to $7 million now. He almost got pinched by the RCMP in March 2006 for his role with the 101 card, but he got away.

13. Armulator/Armega - Christian and MTL group are behind this one too. By the spring of 2006 it was well known among coders that major datastream changes were on the way from Europe and extensive hashing would be the only way to stop the proliferation of FTA boxes. The coder is unknown, but he is a member of the MTL group and was instrumental in the 101 dealer hack. The code was sloppy and not optimized for fast RSA processing but the coder did anticipate the coming hashes and the card started getting better. The project is in trouble now as the original coder has bailed out. Several dealers dropped the card before it even had a chance. The Arm processor was a good idea. Christian always ruins a good project in his endless quest to make another buck or million.

14. Romulator - A coder close to Zacky's group in Spain is behind this card. He worked on the Atmega 128 for the European market. The "Romulata" card has been in wide circulation in Spain for several months now. It was delayed in North America because the coder wasn't familiar with the Jtag protocols. It is a hybrid of the Armulator and AVR-X. It was rumoured that the Armulator coder jumped ship and started working on the Romulator because it too uses the Arm chip. That would explain the manufacturing and supply problems of the Armulator. The card works well in Spain.

15. Mega Card / Super Atmega - Essentially an Atmega based card that uses two ICs instead of one. The idea being that two chips simultaneously perform RSA to cut the processing time in half. I am not certain about the coder, but I strongly suspect x-15. I believe it is two different cards financed by two different groups. The JTAG is involved in one design much like the AVR-X.
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It is wrote down on the internet and C&P to a few places.
IT MUST BE TRUE.!!!
pretty funny. dave2 = second magician


that copy and paste seems to have been run through the "zkt" filter.
not blowing up your spot JT, thanks for posting this. is a good read
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interesting read.. hopefully #13 dosnt turn out to be true.

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When does the made for TV movie come out? ... what excellent drama.
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I wonder who will get to start in the movie? Well I always thought I looked like brad Pitt so if I'm in it that is who I want to play me
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Well, now you know. This is almost a Paul Harvey radio blob. lol

Brad Pitt eh?

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Thank you for the info!!!!!!!!!!!










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Old 06-23-2006   #8
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Please bear in mind that I was making no claims as to the accuracy of this info, although I know at least some of it is true. Accurate or not I think it outlines how this hobby goes and why you got to watch your ass when your someone like Mili.
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Gotta love the drama ...

there's enough material not for one movie, but for a trilogy.... At least we got the clone wars in there. LOL

Mili would make a great Jedi Knight.
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I am that idiot Jar Jar Binks at best.

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I wonder who will get to start in the movie? Well I always thought I looked like brad Pitt so if I'm in it that is who I want to play me
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If that is you in that Avatar you got yourself a deal

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After reading the above hopefully now, everytime you sell a new product people won't be suspecting it is the Magic one. LOL
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Only an idiot would claim the credit for developing a product. Most all ot them try to make it look like it is someone else's. They don't want the fame and the credit, they do it for cash. People need to smarten up but since common sense is not so common after all, it will not happen any time soon.

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u might be suprised how much of it is true
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The biggest coder in montreal was reggie-rigaud he was proviving working h card fixes popped by the feds -us and canada-and millions siezed but he beat the wrap-more info from the general-true-facts!
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it sounds just about right, i've read that before, can't remember where, doesn't matter, buti would believe its probably pretty close.......
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Very interesting thread. I don't recall the Romulator, is that like the Enigma? If not where does the Enigma fit in and what about the various atmega256s?
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